76ers back to fining Ben Simmons

[anotherhomer]

Rumour has it that Raps may had been willing to do a Fred Vanleet & OG for Ben Simmons with no picks.

FVV - is 50% on catch and shoot 3s on high volume. He's a really good shooter. And a really strong defender
Also averages 20 pts a game, and develop a mid-range (his biggest weakness)

OG is 40% on catch and shoot 3s, and one of the most versatile defender. Very strong defender.
And starting to build an iso game too. Averaging 19 pts a game.

Morey maybe able to get a Dame or Beal but i seriously would not count on it....the boat has sailed....

[HabsAndDubs]

Rumour has it that Raps may had been willing to do a Fred Vanleet & OG for Ben Simmons with no picks.

FVV - is 50% on catch and shoot 3s on high volume. He's a really good shooter. And a really strong defender
Also averages 20 pts a game, and develop a mid-range (his biggest weakness)

OG is 40% on catch and shoot 3s, and one of the most versatile defender. Very strong defender.
And starting to build an iso game too. Averaging 19 pts a game.

Morey maybe able to get a Dame or Beal but i seriously would not count on it....the boat has sailed....

Why would the Raptors do this? A “big 3” of Ben Simmons, Siakam and Gary Trent is going to be a play in team for the next 5 years, then have zero assets for the eventual rebuild.

That said, FVV, OG, Seth Curry and Danny Green playing around Embiid would be an incredibly fun like up to watch. Outside of peak Curry/Klay, that might be one of the best shooting lineups in recent memory.

[VDT]

We can agree to disagree. The Sixers are one Simmons trade away from contention, imo.

The Sixers lost to a young, mediocre and inexperienced Hawks team in the second round. Now anything can happen, but chances are that it is going to take more than breaking Simmons into a couple lesser pieces that fit better to win the title.

Kinda but not quite. I talked about that Hawks series earlier and I mentioned how the Hawks got a big lift out of the shot-creation abilities of Gallinari, Bogdanovic and Huerter. None of the three is considered a star but they can definitely create their own shot. Same goes for Seth Curry on the Sixers. He is not a star but he can create his own shot when needed.

The Sixers do not quite need a star, imo. They do not need a top 25 player. What they need is a very good starter (around top 50-top 75) that fits what the team is trying to do and can play next to Embiid. Someone who can create their own shot, handle the ball under pressure and shoot from distance. Ideally, he'd also be a good defender but the Sixers do have Thybulle in the perimeter and Embiid at the rim so if he's really good at the other 3 tasks, they can afford to have someone who is just solid and not really good at it.

The players that were rumored for the Sixers over the summer (McCollum, Brogdon, Siakam, OG & FVV) all fit most of the above criteria and then some. The Sixers would be in a great spot if they took any of these offers but Morey got greedy.

What you describe is a star, at least if he is good at these things.
The players you mention, do not fit the criteria. They are average/ above average players who cant create or playmake against good\elite teams, which is what the Sixers need. Not one of these guys can be really trusted to run the offense and/or be the main perimeter threat deep in the playoffs, which is again what the Sixers care about. Simmons can also be a pretty good offensive player against bad/mediocre teams, thats not the point though.

My apologies, I misread what you wrote. You didn't say that Embiid had 5-6 prime/peak years so the part of my post that referenced that is moot.

I do feel the need to point out something, though. I never said that the Sixers should "take a step back and retool". What I am saying is that the Sixers need to go for the throat. They need to go for the win now move right now. They need to complete the trade that will make them title contenders. They need a trade similar to the Rasheed Wallace trade back in '04. And, imo, they could have had that trade if Morey wasn't hellbent on being seen as a huge winner in every single trade. That's why I'm talking about pride and ego. A win-win trade can get the 76ers a title but, no, Morey wants to be seen as ripping the other team off. It's just not going to happen.

Breaking Simmons into pieces is not an all in move. There is a reason every team wants to consilidate their talent instead of breaking it into multiple pieces. The all in move for the Sixers is to package Simmons with some picks in order to get an upgrade and try to win in the next years. If they waste their only major trade asset (other than their picks) they will have to wait a couple of years to get some cap flexibility before they are able to even attempt to make a big move, literaly wasting Embiid's prime.

[Flash4thewin]

Rumour has it that Raps may had been willing to do a Fred Vanleet & OG for Ben Simmons with no picks.

FVV - is 50% on catch and shoot 3s on high volume. He's a really good shooter. And a really strong defender
Also averages 20 pts a game, and develop a mid-range (his biggest weakness)

OG is 40% on catch and shoot 3s, and one of the most versatile defender. Very strong defender.
And starting to build an iso game too. Averaging 19 pts a game.

Morey maybe able to get a Dame or Beal but i seriously would not count on it....the boat has sailed....

Do you think the Blazers are getting past the first round this year? They could easily be swept like the Heat where last post season. The idea that Dame or Beal has sailed makes no sense. The same thing with Beal, its a little bit more difficult with him since it would be a sign and trade.

[VDT]

Morey is an intelligent guy but he seems like a person who lacks the emotional intelligence to run the type of business the NBA is. If he really wanted to bring Simmons back, then he should have wrapped his arms around him after his disastrous playoff series and the comments from Doc and Embiid. You need to understand the temperament of your employees and having the media write hit pieces about how Simmons is coddled and hasn’t improved since his rookie season is not the way to smooth things over.

How does this even make sense?

For one, it is not Morey's job to console Simmons after his bad performance. Any player that has the tiniest bit of pride would feel bad and try to come back better. If he needs his GM to encourage him, that's a red flag if anything.

Beyond that, the issue is not (mainly) Simmons feelings. I am pretty sure Simmons has been sceptical about his fit with Embiid for years now. His bad performance and the fans' reaction is unfortunate ( i think Rivers/Embiid comments are a non issue ) but it would be manageable if Simmons thought that its good for his career to play next to Embiid. He doesnt think so and the Hawks series is what broke the camel's back. Morey has really nothing to do with that, if anything he was being proactive when he tried to trade Simmons for Harden.

[anotherhomer]

Rumour has it that Raps may had been willing to do a Fred Vanleet & OG for Ben Simmons with no picks.

FVV - is 50% on catch and shoot 3s on high volume. He's a really good shooter. And a really strong defender
Also averages 20 pts a game, and develop a mid-range (his biggest weakness)

OG is 40% on catch and shoot 3s, and one of the most versatile defender. Very strong defender.
And starting to build an iso game too. Averaging 19 pts a game.

Morey maybe able to get a Dame or Beal but i seriously would not count on it....the boat has sailed....

Do you think the Blazers are getting past the first round this year? They could easily be swept like the Heat where last post season. The idea that Dame or Beal has sailed makes no sense. The same thing with Beal, its a little bit more difficult with him since it would be a sign and trade.

If Sixers can get Dame for Ben Simmons great.
Is Morey prepared to add a lot of picks for him?

I feel that Morey may want to cheap out here.

[Flash4thewin]

Rumour has it that Raps may had been willing to do a Fred Vanleet & OG for Ben Simmons with no picks.

FVV - is 50% on catch and shoot 3s on high volume. He's a really good shooter. And a really strong defender
Also averages 20 pts a game, and develop a mid-range (his biggest weakness)

OG is 40% on catch and shoot 3s, and one of the most versatile defender. Very strong defender.
And starting to build an iso game too. Averaging 19 pts a game.

Morey maybe able to get a Dame or Beal but i seriously would not count on it....the boat has sailed....

Do you think the Blazers are getting past the first round this year? They could easily be swept like the Heat where last post season. The idea that Dame or Beal has sailed makes no sense. The same thing with Beal, its a little bit more difficult with him since it would be a sign and trade.

If Sixers can get Dame for Ben Simmons great.
Is Morey prepared to add a lot of picks for him?

I feel that Morey may want to cheap out here.

I can see Morey doing one pick. At that point assuming the Blazers loses again in the first round or worse get swept off the court, Dame will be forcing the issue thus hurting the Blazers in any trade. Again this is assuming the Blazer lose or get embarrassed off the court which is very possible. The better question would be is Dame worth it at that point?

[Nuntius]

The Sixers lost to a young, mediocre and inexperienced Hawks team in the second round. Now anything can happen, but chances are that it is going to take more than breaking Simmons into a couple lesser pieces that fit better to win the title.

1) Young and inexperienced, yes. Mediocre, no. The Hawks were a pretty good team and they proved that when they gave Milwaukee fits in the Conference Finals.

2) Simmons' adverse effects on Philly's offense were a big reason why the Sixers lost to the Hawks. Replace Simmons with a player who doesn't bring these adverse effects with him and the Sixers advance. There's no doubt in my mind that the Sixers would have made the ECF last year if they had any of the players rumored for them over this summer instead of Simmons.

What you describe is a star, at least if he is good at these things.
The players you mention, do not fit the criteria. They are average/ above average players who cant create or playmake against good\elite teams, which is what the Sixers need. Not one of these guys can be really trusted to run the offense and/or be the main perimeter threat deep in the playoffs, which is again what the Sixers care about. Simmons can also be a pretty good offensive player against bad/mediocre teams, thats not the point though.

The players I describe and the players I mention are the exact same thing. McCollum, Brogdon and FVV can all handle the ball under pressure, create their own shot and shoot from deep. OG lacks that kind of ball-handling but he's a very good and versatile defender so, he does fulfill 3 out of the 4 criteria that I set above. Siakam has a different playstyle, I'll grant you that, but he's also a bigger player (a forward) and he was an All-Star two years ago.

That's the level of player that the Sixers need, imo. And that's because the Sixers already have a mega-star in place with Embiid. They don't need a Batman. They already have that in Embiid. What they need is a Robin and that's what these players are. Simmons, on the other hand, frequently had the impact of The Joker on the offensive end. He did more harm than good when it mattered.

Breaking Simmons into pieces is not an all in move. There is a reason every team wants to consilidate their talent instead of breaking it into multiple pieces. The all in move for the Sixers is to package Simmons with some picks in order to get an upgrade and try to win in the next years. If they waste their only major trade asset (other than their picks) they will have to wait a couple of years to get some cap flexibility before they are able to even attempt to make a big move, literaly wasting Embiid's prime.

I agree that teams generally try to consolidate their talent. That is particularly true for teams without top end talent. The Sixers aren't quite that team, though. They have that top-end talent in Embiid.

Would it be great for the Sixers if they were to package Simmons with some picks in order to get a top 25 player? Yes, that would be amazing. That would definitely be the best case scenario for them. Sadly for them, though, this isn't happening. No one is going to give up a top 25 player for Simmons + picks. Simmons simply isn't worth as much.

The best that the Sixers can do right now is to trade Simmons for a player around his range (somewhere between top 50 and top 75) that fits their team better than Simmons does. A lateral move. A win-win. Morey had the chance for that kind of move and he said no. In my opinion, that was a mistake that's gonna cost the Sixers a run at a title.

[Pointgod]

Rumour has it that Raps may had been willing to do a Fred Vanleet & OG for Ben Simmons with no picks.

FVV - is 50% on catch and shoot 3s on high volume. He's a really good shooter. And a really strong defender
Also averages 20 pts a game, and develop a mid-range (his biggest weakness)

OG is 40% on catch and shoot 3s, and one of the most versatile defender. Very strong defender.
And starting to build an iso game too. Averaging 19 pts a game.

Morey maybe able to get a Dame or Beal but i seriously would not count on it....the boat has sailed....

Why would the Raptors do this? A “big 3” of Ben Simmons, Siakam and Gary Trent is going to be a play in team for the next 5 years, then have zero assets for the eventual rebuild.

That said, FVV, OG, Seth Curry and Danny Green playing around Embiid would be an incredibly fun like up to watch. Outside of peak Curry/Klay, that might be one of the best shooting lineups in recent memory.

Because the big 3 wouldn’t be Siakim, Trent and Ben. It would be Barnes, Simmons and Siakim or another player they trade for. The Raptors are incredibly high on Scottie Barnes for good reason and it’s painfully obvious for anyone that’s watched a single Raptors game that Barnes, Siakim and OG can’t coexist playing the same 2 positions. Masai has a blueprint of the team he’s building and there’s a definitely ceiling on players like Van Vleet. Simmons is a natural fit with what the Raptors are building although I suspect that they’d be more willing to move Siakim than OG.

From the Sixers perspective this is the best they’d get for Simmons at this point and it’s still probably favors the Sixers all things considered. Fred is playing at a borderline all-star level and has successfully played in a small backcourt. OG is an A+ defender who will make multiple all defence teams in his career and his offense was coming into its own. This would be a win win for both teams which is why Morey would never do it. He’d have to swallow his pride and admit he wasted everyone’s time when he insisted he’d get a top 25 player for Simmons.

[Tacoma]

Morey is an intelligent guy but he seems like a person who lacks the emotional intelligence to run the type of business the NBA is. If he really wanted to bring Simmons back, then he should have wrapped his arms around him after his disastrous playoff series and the comments from Doc and Embiid. You need to understand the temperament of your employees and having the media write hit pieces about how Simmons is coddled and hasn’t improved since his rookie season is not the way to smooth things over.

Agreed and I said this exact same thing months ago. Morey absolutely FAILED to diffuse the situation before the tailspin. After realizing that Simmons was sensitive to having his feelings hurt with comments made by Doc & Embiid, Morey should have been the mediator and gotten the 3 of them into a room to hash it out in private instead of public.

Assuming the 3 are reasonable men, this would've worked to at least stabilize the situation allowing Morey more time to make his next move - like maybe a trade. Without a public trade demand and sit out, and with a semi-cooperative Simmons, Morey would've had much more leverage to get the all star he so covets in a Simmons trade.

But it's too late now and the bonfire has turned into a wildfire and now the 2 of them are in a pissing contest.

[Flash4thewin]

Morey is an intelligent guy but he seems like a person who lacks the emotional intelligence to run the type of business the NBA is. If he really wanted to bring Simmons back, then he should have wrapped his arms around him after his disastrous playoff series and the comments from Doc and Embiid. You need to understand the temperament of your employees and having the media write hit pieces about how Simmons is coddled and hasn’t improved since his rookie season is not the way to smooth things over.

Agreed and I said this exact same thing months ago. Morey absolutely FAILED to diffuse the situation before the tailspin. After realizing that Simmons was sensitive to having his feelings hurt with comments made by Doc & Embiid, Morey should have been the mediator and gotten the 3 of them into a room to hash it out in private instead of public.

Assuming the 3 are reasonable men, this would've worked to at least stabilize the situation allowing Morey more time to make his next move - like maybe a trade. Without a public trade demand and sit out, and with a semi-cooperative Simmons, Morey would've had much more leverage to get the all star he so covets in a Simmons trade.

But it's too late now and the bonfire has turned into a wildfire and now the 2 of them are in a pissing contest.

After everything we have seen thus far, it’s hard to make an argument that Simmons is reasonable.

[TheNG]

I really like the situation as it is.
I think it is just perfect.
Everyone gets what they cooked.
Justice is in full power mode.

[anotherhomer]

Another thing, is that Morey steamrolled Royce white

Royce was a mess and made his own bed but Morey was a dick towards him

[tbhawksfan1]

Say Free throw near BS and he shrivels up into a fetal position and puts his thumb in his mouth

[ProcessDoctor]

Rumour has it that Raps may had been willing to do a Fred Vanleet & OG for Ben Simmons with no picks.

FVV - is 50% on catch and shoot 3s on high volume. He's a really good shooter. And a really strong defender
Also averages 20 pts a game, and develop a mid-range (his biggest weakness)

OG is 40% on catch and shoot 3s, and one of the most versatile defender. Very strong defender.
And starting to build an iso game too. Averaging 19 pts a game.

Morey maybe able to get a Dame or Beal but i seriously would not count on it....the boat has sailed....

Do you think the Blazers are getting past the first round this year? They could easily be swept like the Heat where last post season. The idea that Dame or Beal has sailed makes no sense. The same thing with Beal, its a little bit more difficult with him since it would be a sign and trade.

I don't think the Blazers even make the playoffs, let alone get out of the first round.

[Tomjas]

The Sixers lost to a young, mediocre and inexperienced Hawks team in the second round. Now anything can happen, but chances are that it is going to take more than breaking Simmons into a couple lesser pieces that fit better to win the title.

1) Young and inexperienced, yes. Mediocre, no. The Hawks were a pretty good team and they proved that when they gave Milwaukee fits in the Conference Finals.

2) Simmons' adverse effects on Philly's offense were a big reason why the Sixers lost to the Hawks. Replace Simmons with a player who doesn't bring these adverse effects with him and the Sixers advance. There's no doubt in my mind that the Sixers would have made the ECF last year if they had any of the players rumored for them over this summer instead of Simmons.

What you describe is a star, at least if he is good at these things.
The players you mention, do not fit the criteria. They are average/ above average players who cant create or playmake against good\elite teams, which is what the Sixers need. Not one of these guys can be really trusted to run the offense and/or be the main perimeter threat deep in the playoffs, which is again what the Sixers care about. Simmons can also be a pretty good offensive player against bad/mediocre teams, thats not the point though.

The players I describe and the players I mention are the exact same thing. McCollum, Brogdon and FVV can all handle the ball under pressure, create their own shot and shoot from deep. OG lacks that kind of ball-handling but he's a very good and versatile defender so, he does fulfill 3 out of the 4 criteria that I set above. Siakam has a different playstyle, I'll grant you that, but he's also a bigger player (a forward) and he was an All-Star two years ago.

That's the level of player that the Sixers need, imo. And that's because the Sixers already have a mega-star in place with Embiid. They don't need a Batman. They already have that in Embiid. What they need is a Robin and that's what these players are. Simmons, on the other hand, frequently had the impact of The Joker on the offensive end. He did more harm than good when it mattered.

Breaking Simmons into pieces is not an all in move. There is a reason every team wants to consilidate their talent instead of breaking it into multiple pieces. The all in move for the Sixers is to package Simmons with some picks in order to get an upgrade and try to win in the next years. If they waste their only major trade asset (other than their picks) they will have to wait a couple of years to get some cap flexibility before they are able to even attempt to make a big move, literaly wasting Embiid's prime.

I agree that teams generally try to consolidate their talent. That is particularly true for teams without top end talent. The Sixers aren't quite that team, though. They have that top-end talent in Embiid.

Would it be great for the Sixers if they were to package Simmons with some picks in order to get a top 25 player? Yes, that would be amazing. That would definitely be the best case scenario for them. Sadly for them, though, this isn't happening. No one is going to give up a top 25 player for Simmons + picks. Simmons simply isn't worth as much.

The best that the Sixers can do right now is to trade Simmons for a player around his range (somewhere between top 50 and top 75) that fits their team better than Simmons does. A lateral move. A win-win. Morey had the chance for that kind of move and he said no. In my opinion, that was a mistake that's gonna cost the Sixers a run at a title.

50 to 75

Nice troll

[Myth]

He isn't paid like a top 15 player....he's paid like a top 35 guy at most....and by the end of the deal he might not even be a top 100 guy with the new tv deal coming.

Looked it up. He is paid 20th highest salary per year (only $2M less than the 15th highest, who is Anthony Davis). Many of the players below his salary are better and actually playing. Tobias Harris is the only player worse than him paid more. There are a couple players above him that were better players but also not playing currently.

If that were how the cap worked, then sure. But that's not how the cap really works. A guy like Donic can't get paid more. So you can be the 20th highest paid guy and still only be paid like a top 35 player. Also, you tend to get paid more the more recent your contract was signed (I suppose the cap might stop growing but we'll see). Thus if someone is a roughly top 40 guy and they meet the standards for a 30% max, you give them that 30% max. It's what the market thinks these guys are worth.

Regardless, every person paid like Ben Simmons is pretty much agreed upon as better players than Simmons or agreed upon as overpaid.

[dhsilv2]

Looked it up. He is paid 20th highest salary per year (only $2M less than the 15th highest, who is Anthony Davis). Many of the players below his salary are better and actually playing. Tobias Harris is the only player worse than him paid more. There are a couple players above him that were better players but also not playing currently.

If that were how the cap worked, then sure. But that's not how the cap really works. A guy like Donic can't get paid more. So you can be the 20th highest paid guy and still only be paid like a top 35 player. Also, you tend to get paid more the more recent your contract was signed (I suppose the cap might stop growing but we'll see). Thus if someone is a roughly top 40 guy and they meet the standards for a 30% max, you give them that 30% max. It's what the market thinks these guys are worth.

Regardless, every person paid like Ben Simmons is pretty much agreed upon as better players than Simmons or agreed upon as overpaid.

Jamal Murray is neither better or really over paid either and he's paid the exact same amount lol. But I have no idea who you think is and isn't over paid. CJ is paid the same and simmons is better and imo they're both fairly paid. I don't recall too much hate on Jrue either for that matter.

There are 40 player making 28 or more this year. Being's extra 3 million is hardly some difference here.

[VDT]

1) Young and inexperienced, yes. Mediocre, no. The Hawks were a pretty good team and they proved that when they gave Milwaukee fits in the Conference Finals.

2) Simmons' adverse effects on Philly's offense were a big reason why the Sixers lost to the Hawks. Replace Simmons with a player who doesn't bring these adverse effects with him and the Sixers advance. There's no doubt in my mind that the Sixers would have made the ECF last year if they had any of the players rumored for them over this summer instead of Simmons.

The Hawks were (and are) mediocre, the Sixers just chocked, otherwise they should have beaten them handedly. My point though is that if you are losing to a team like the Hawks you need a major upgrade. It's not like they lost a tight series against the future champions, where tweaking the roster might have sufficed. They lost against a mediocre, inexperienced team in an embarassing loss.

The players I describe and the players I mention are the exact same thing. McCollum, Brogdon and FVV can all handle the ball under pressure, create their own shot and shoot from deep. OG lacks that kind of ball-handling but he's a very good and versatile defender so, he does fulfill 3 out of the 4 criteria that I set above. Siakam has a different playstyle, I'll grant you that, but he's also a bigger player (a forward) and he was an All-Star two years ago.

That's the level of player that the Sixers need, imo. And that's because the Sixers already have a mega-star in place with Embiid. They don't need a Batman. They already have that in Embiid. What they need is a Robin and that's what these players are. Simmons, on the other hand, frequently had the impact of The Joker on the offensive end. He did more harm than good when it mattered.

It's not about what they can do but at what level they can do it. I dont trust any of these players in the later playoff rounds. The Sixers, being built around a center, are also even more weak in terms of playmaking and perimeter creation and even Embiid himself has been shaky in the playoffs. It's not like the Sixers have Michael Jordan on the team and just need some good players to contend. An offense based on a center can be pretty limited in this era and this has been the case in all the recent playoff runs of the Sixers.

I agree that teams generally try to consolidate their talent. That is particularly true for teams without top end talent. The Sixers aren't quite that team, though. They have that top-end talent in Embiid.

Would it be great for the Sixers if they were to package Simmons with some picks in order to get a top 25 player? Yes, that would be amazing. That would definitely be the best case scenario for them. Sadly for them, though, this isn't happening. No one is going to give up a top 25 player for Simmons + picks. Simmons simply isn't worth as much.

The best that the Sixers can do right now is to trade Simmons for a player around his range (somewhere between top 50 and top 75) that fits their team better than Simmons does. A lateral move. A win-win. Morey had the chance for that kind of move and he said no. In my opinion, that was a mistake that's gonna cost the Sixers a run at a title.

Your assumption (that the Sixers will not be able to get a star) may certainly be true but it is not shared by everyone, including the Sixers FO. Not because of their pride or ego but because they might see things differently and think that they have a reasonable chance to land a star. You basically take your opinion as a fact and then blame others (Morey in this case) for having a different view.

[Myth]

If that were how the cap worked, then sure. But that's not how the cap really works. A guy like Donic can't get paid more. So you can be the 20th highest paid guy and still only be paid like a top 35 player. Also, you tend to get paid more the more recent your contract was signed (I suppose the cap might stop growing but we'll see). Thus if someone is a roughly top 40 guy and they meet the standards for a 30% max, you give them that 30% max. It's what the market thinks these guys are worth.

Regardless, every person paid like Ben Simmons is pretty much agreed upon as better players than Simmons or agreed upon as overpaid.

Jamal Murray is neither better or really over paid either and he's paid the exact same amount lol. But I have no idea who you think is and isn't over paid. CJ is paid the same and simmons is better and imo they're both fairly paid. I don't recall too much hate on Jrue either for that matter.

There are 40 player making 28 or more this year. Being's extra 3 million is hardly some difference here.

$3M isn’t much more than $28M, but $10M more is which Simmons will make by the end of this contract as each year he makes much more. Again, $33-$38M over the next several years is a crazy amount for a guy who can’t and/or won’t shoot making him pretty inept at scoring, has significant leadership issues, and is willing to sit out countless games if he is unhappy.

Murray is currently not worth his contract. Nuggets fans are fine with it for the most part because he is young and they are hoping he becomes worth his contract, but he had a crazy bubble experience followed by people being generally disappointed with his follow up and then a serious injury.

CJ is widely accepted as overpaid. I don’t know a Blazers fan who is delusional enough to convince themselves otherwise.

Jrue is believed to be the top perimeter defender by several of the top perimeter scorers in the league, and he is able to do that without being inept as a jump shooter.

The thing that surprises me the most is that fans of these players can acknowledge contract concerns in relation to player flaws, but when it comes to Simmons who has had a bad attitude (enough that even Phili news outlets make fun of him and want him gone), refusal to play, he reportedly was a significant reason Butler left town, career of not demonstrating willingness to work on shooting, and a horrendous playoff performance, 76ers fans can’t accept how fans of other teams may see his contract as problematic.