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Tank World Order (6.0)

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At 9-12 where do you stand?

Tank World Order: Hope the team continues its downward trajectory so that they can add another top lottery pick talent to the core of Barnes and OG?
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54%
Team Mediocre: Try and win at all costs this season. Playoff experience is valuable for the young players on our team. Making the playoffs, even if the play-in helps preserve our winning culture.
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18%
Team Neutral: Have not decided what direction I want the team to head. Waiting until later in the season to decide.
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29%
 
Total votes: 119

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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1401 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:37 pm

LOL dead.

Team Triggered....

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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1402 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:38 pm

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Again, a simple unsubstantiated and black and white answer with zero context, which is a common response from you, 720.

"Lottery" is wide and ranges from 1-14. Under your definition, a team that finishes in the play in or just outside the play in is a treadmill team.

Warriors got the 7th pick in 2009 because they were absolutely decimated by injuries. Monta Ellis missed most of the season, and virtually every player in the starting line-up missed HUGE chunks of the season.

When the Warriors got Klay they were literally the definition of a treadmill team. They finished 36-46 and were still trying to win games late in the season. Curry had his ankle issues but the Warriors played him late in the season where they actually won their last 5 of 6 games that year. Was that a team actively trying to tank?

Again, Spurs got Duncan because they lost their franchise player for the entire season.

Kobe was the 13th pick and drafted by a literal "treadmill" team according to your definition.

Brush up on your basketball history, because it's absolutely atrocious.



This is exactly why people don't take TwO seriously. They literally have nothing so they just bring up points that have already been debunked a thousand times already.

It's unreal at this point to be using the Spurs and Heat as examples of successful tanking. It is absolutely absurd how they are unable to comprehend the difference between these teams and others.

And like you said, the Warriors actually were a true definition of a treadmill team when they got Curry. Kobe was drafted 13th overall, Dirk was drafted 9th overall, Klay was drafted 11th overall. This is honestly incredible. They are actually unintentionally agreeing with us. :lol:


Newbie ballboy back at it!! The poll is up to 62 in favour!! lol with more than decent sample size. Keep living in your bubble ballboy.


It was 62 in favour and 47 either against tanking or would rather wait and see.

Also it's a small sample size considering other polls in this forum have upwards of 350 people voting and this has less than 110.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1403 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:39 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:LOL dead.

Team Triggered....

#cashmeoussidehowboutdat


Guys here can't argue at all so it's just about making conspiracies that people who disagree with them have burner accounts.

Absolutely pathetic.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1404 » by Bruin » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:39 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
This thread is about tanking and people are debating tanking. If you don't like people's responses, then ignore it, it's simple.

Ironically, half the posts here are digs at people who are against perpetual tanking so not sure what you are talking about.

The fact you can’t see the difference just let’s me know it’s a hopeless case


This thread is about tanking.

Debating tanking fits exactly with what this thread is.

Half the posts here are digs at people who criticize those that want to "forever" tank.

Then you have others that just make up constant lies and conspiracies when they can't handle that criticism.

Literally nobody is asking for a “forever” tank. And you’re essentially admitting that you and the others are solely here to create a cesspool and derail the thread

This thread isn’t to debate whether or not we should tank. It’s to discuss the tank for those who are into the tank. It’s for discussing the position with regards to the standings and discuss the potential prospects we could get with where we may end up picking

The only reason it’s turned into anything apart from that is cause of you and the other Mediocre lovers
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1405 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:40 pm

Burner account confirmed, maybe even multiple burners, no other reason to be so triggered
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1406 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:41 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:The fact you can’t see the difference just let’s me know it’s a hopeless case


This thread is about tanking.

Debating tanking fits exactly with what this thread is.

Half the posts here are digs at people who criticize those that want to "forever" tank.

Then you have others that just make up constant lies and conspiracies when they can't handle that criticism.

Literally nobody is asking for a “forever” tank. And you’re essentially admitting that you and the others are solely here to create a cesspool and derail the thread

This thread isn’t to debate whether or not we should tank. It’s to discuss the tank for those who are into the tank. It’s for discussing the position with regards to the standings and discuss the potential prospects we could get with where we may end up picking

The only reason it’s turned into anything apart from that is cause of you and the other Mediocre lovers


And nobody here is wanting mediocrity or a perpetual treadmill team. The irony is some of the main people here have been calling for a tank for the last 4-5 years.

The thread is about tanking. Half the posts here are celebrating losses or taking digs at people they disagree with. At the same time they promote conspiracies and lies about people they disagree with.

And I'm not talking about you who are generally a civil poster.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1407 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:43 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:Burner account confirmed, maybe even multiple burners, no other reason to be so triggered


Every single time I debate with them that's there only response, just accusing me of having a burner.

It's getting absolutely ridiculous and pathetic.

I proposed a simple bet to him and he got triggered, that's all there is to it.

If I am the same as the burner he accuses me off he can get $10,000. Why not take the bet if he's so confident? He's accused me having a burner literally every single time I've had a debate with him because he can't make a sound response with valid supporting arguments.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1408 » by KL78192020 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:43 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:

This is exactly why people don't take TwO seriously. They literally have nothing so they just bring up points that have already been debunked a thousand times already.

It's unreal at this point to be using the Spurs and Heat as examples of successful tanking. It is absolutely absurd how they are unable to comprehend the difference between these teams and others.

And like you said, the Warriors actually were a true definition of a treadmill team when they got Curry. Kobe was drafted 13th overall, Dirk was drafted 9th overall, Klay was drafted 11th overall. This is honestly incredible. They are actually unintentionally agreeing with us. :lol:


Newbie ballboy back at it!! The poll is up to 62 in favour!! lol with more than decent sample size. Keep living in your bubble ballboy.


It was 62 in favour and 47 either against tanking or would rather wait and see.

Also it's a small sample size considering other polls in this forum have upwards of 350 people voting and this has less than 110.


In regular polling its 1000-2000 people per million, so I'd say this is close enough! I don't think this board has 1000 users. Maybe 10 to 15 people post regularly in this thread in favor of the tank but to say all 62 people are stupid is a bit much.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1409 » by 720 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:43 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:LOL dead.

Team Triggered....

#cashmeoussidehowboutdat

I might turn this into a sig for Team Triggered aka Team Braindead. Giving me ideas. :lol:

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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1410 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:43 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:Burner account confirmed, maybe even multiple burners, no other reason to be so triggered


Every single time I debate with them that's there only response, just accusing me of having a burner.

It's getting absolutely ridiculous and pathetic.

I proposed a simple bet to him and he got triggered, that's all there is to it.

If I am the same as the burner he accuses me off he can get $10,000. Why not take the bet if he's so confident?


I'm just kidding man, all good
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1411 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:45 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
Newbie ballboy back at it!! The poll is up to 62 in favour!! lol with more than decent sample size. Keep living in your bubble ballboy.


It was 62 in favour and 47 either against tanking or would rather wait and see.

Also it's a small sample size considering other polls in this forum have upwards of 350 people voting and this has less than 110.


In regular polling its 1000-2000 people per million, so I'd say this is close enough! I don't think this board has 1000 users. Maybe 10 to 15 people post regularly in this thread in favor of the tank but to say all 62 people are stupid is a bit much.


Who said 62 people are stupid. Generally the debates are civil except when guys like Steelo, Pooh and 720 come around making up crap, accusing people of having burners etc.

Only 720 is calling people "low IQ", I didn't say anyone was stupid.

There was a poll in this forum with Barnes vs. Suggs and had it had over 350 people poll. That's why I'm saying the sample size is not accurate.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1412 » by Bruin » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:47 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
This thread is about tanking.

Debating tanking fits exactly with what this thread is.

Half the posts here are digs at people who criticize those that want to "forever" tank.

Then you have others that just make up constant lies and conspiracies when they can't handle that criticism.

Literally nobody is asking for a “forever” tank. And you’re essentially admitting that you and the others are solely here to create a cesspool and derail the thread

This thread isn’t to debate whether or not we should tank. It’s to discuss the tank for those who are into the tank. It’s for discussing the position with regards to the standings and discuss the potential prospects we could get with where we may end up picking

The only reason it’s turned into anything apart from that is cause of you and the other Mediocre lovers


And nobody here is wanting mediocrity or a perpetual treadmill team. The irony is some of the main people here have been calling for a tank for the last 4-5 years.

The thread is about tanking. Half the posts here are celebrating losses or taking digs at people they disagree with. At the same time they promote conspiracies and lies about people they disagree with.

And I'm not talking about you who are generally a civil poster.

Ok here’s the thing. Some of us don’t believe this team is going to win anything serious with the Pascal and Fred core. We are all in on the future with Scottie and want a second lotto pick to pair with him for the future

Yeah, we celebrate losses because every loss gets us closer to what we want. The posts that are “taking digs” are responses to the posters who do the same thing from the opposite end, which obviously creates a never ending cycle

The fact of the matter is that it’s gonna have to just be an Agree to Disagree type of situation cause nobody who wants to tank this year is going to change their mind and it probably is the same thing the other way around too
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Post#1413 » by Steelo Green » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:48 pm

Please refrain from fighting in our thread. We are truly a positive community.

Please everyone be safe during the holidays with the spread of covid and their mental health as well.
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Post#1414 » by KL78192020 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:48 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
It was 62 in favour and 47 either against tanking or would rather wait and see.

Also it's a small sample size considering other polls in this forum have upwards of 350 people voting and this has less than 110.


In regular polling its 1000-2000 people per million, so I'd say this is close enough! I don't think this board has 1000 users. Maybe 10 to 15 people post regularly in this thread in favor of the tank but to say all 62 people are stupid is a bit much.


Who said 62 people are stupid.

Only 720 is calling people "low IQ", I didn't say anyone was stupid.

There was a poll in this forum with Barnes vs. Suggs and had it had over 350 people poll. That's why I'm saying the sample size is not accurate.


In political polls its 1-3k for a million. Plus the percent has stayed the same around 55% to 57% when the poll was at 55 total votes and now when it has 110 votes total. Doesn't look like the percent in favor changes as the vote count has doubled.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1415 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:48 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Literally nobody is asking for a “forever” tank. And you’re essentially admitting that you and the others are solely here to create a cesspool and derail the thread

This thread isn’t to debate whether or not we should tank. It’s to discuss the tank for those who are into the tank. It’s for discussing the position with regards to the standings and discuss the potential prospects we could get with where we may end up picking

The only reason it’s turned into anything apart from that is cause of you and the other Mediocre lovers


And nobody here is wanting mediocrity or a perpetual treadmill team. The irony is some of the main people here have been calling for a tank for the last 4-5 years.

The thread is about tanking. Half the posts here are celebrating losses or taking digs at people they disagree with. At the same time they promote conspiracies and lies about people they disagree with.

And I'm not talking about you who are generally a civil poster.

Ok here’s the thing. Some of us don’t believe this team is going to win anything serious with the Pascal and Fred core. We are all in on the future with Scottie and want a second lotto pick to pair with him for the future

Yeah, we celebrate losses because every loss gets us closer to what we want. The posts that are “taking digs” are responses to the posters who do the same thing from the opposite end, which obviously creates a never ending cycle

The fact of the matter is that it’s gonna have to just be an Agree to Disagree type of situation cause nobody who wants to tank this year is going to change their mind and it probably is the same thing the other way around too


Sure and you can argue that. If you don't want to respond, don't respond.

I don't think Pascal and Fred is a championship core by itself either. However, you can still achieve what you want outside of a deliberate tank through smart drafting, smart trades, asset management, player development etc.

If of course the team sucks mid-way through the season and it makes sense to tank, I'm fine with tanking.

This isn't rocket science.
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Post#1416 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:50 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
In regular polling its 1000-2000 people per million, so I'd say this is close enough! I don't think this board has 1000 users. Maybe 10 to 15 people post regularly in this thread in favor of the tank but to say all 62 people are stupid is a bit much.


Who said 62 people are stupid.

Only 720 is calling people "low IQ", I didn't say anyone was stupid.

There was a poll in this forum with Barnes vs. Suggs and had it had over 350 people poll. That's why I'm saying the sample size is not accurate.


In political polls its 1-3k for a million. Plus the percent has stayed the same around 55% to 57% when the poll was at 55 total votes and now when it has 110 votes total. Doesn't look like the percent in favor changes as the vote count has doubled.


But most people that come to this thread are in large in favor of tanking so it can be skewed. It's specifically attracting people who want the team to tank.
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Re: Tank World Order (6.0) 

Post#1417 » by Vampirate » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:51 pm

At the end of the day the only thing that really matters is Barnes development.

If the Raptors make the playoffs because Barnes really really helped them get there, then great it's valuable playoff experience.

If the Raptors miss the playoffs then they get to add another pick to build upon the young core (Barnes, OG).

My mentality anyways.
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Post#1418 » by Danny1616 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:51 pm

Steelo Green wrote:Please refrain from fighting in our thread. We are truly a positive community.

Please everyone be safe during the holidays with the spread of covid and their mental health as well.


And look, it's the guy who started the burner conspiracy because he can't actually engage in constructive debates and handle anyone that disagrees with him. How nice of you to show.
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Post#1419 » by Pooh_Jeter » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:52 pm

Debate is perfectly fine, but we should stick to words and keep it as respectful as possible. For Danny to physically threaten another user is totally uncalled for. I don't come to RGM to have my safety jeopardized. I'm honestly glad I live on the other side of the country right now.
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Post#1420 » by Steelo Green » Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:53 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
Steelo Green wrote:Please refrain from fighting in our thread. We are truly a positive community.

Please everyone be safe during the holidays with the spread of covid and their mental health as well.


And look, it's the guy who started the burner conspiracy because he can't actually engage in constructive debates and handle anyone that disagrees with him. How nice of you to show.

Yeah. For sure. Too bad we picked Barnes in the top 5. He won’t lead us anywhere

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