Tank World Order (6.0)

[youngRAPZ]

Remember when TwO claimed the Lakers winning a championship last year was a successful tank job despite the fact they signed arguably the 2nd best player of all-time? A better example would be to look at the New Orleans Pelicans who inherited all of the Laker's lottery picks and see how they have done. It's been a complete and utter disaster and are destined for a top 5 pick this year. I quite enjoy all these failed examples of tanks. I wonder what the next gem will be.

Now TwO is having a meltdown and are accusing people of having burner accounts again.

And it appears as though a certain poster is still rolling with that illogical, nonsensical argument about looking at number of voters. The fact he doesn't understand that a thread about tanking would generally attract more posters that are in favour of tanking than against tanking is hilarious. In addition, the poll was so bad for about two weeks that most people didn't even bother voting, including myself and posters actually referenced how bad the poll was a few weeks ago. Lastly, the majority of people in this thread wanted Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs and wanted nothing to do with Scottie prior to the draft. Considering how often TwO has been wrong, it's probably not wise to use consensus as an argument.

I like to follow a strategy that has been proven to build championships and is one that the best executives in the league use including ours. The strategy that you guys want was attempted about 10 years ago and the person who did it is now in another sport because it was such a disaster. He literally was so bad that he had to switch sports.

Didn’t the Cavs tank and draft kyrie number 1 and win a title?


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[Madhouse]

Jaden and Scottie

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[youngRAPZ]

The Post game and Game threads are for general discussion regarding the game. tWo members discuss the implications of each game on the tank. It’s really not that difficult to comprehend. At least it shouldn’t be

While I do agree that discussing the ramifications of losing a game for a draft pick are perfectly fine, that's really not what I'm referring to. There have been multiple post game threads of people complaining after winning a game or 720 pushing the most random conspiracies with zero factual evidence. Like when he joined a post game thread just to say that "Fred lovers are bashing Scottie to justify Fred" despite the fact that there were 14 pages of posts and not a single one like that. And he's not the only one. It's just nonstop toxicity. Compare that to people in here who are actually debating tanking and not throwing out random BS conspiracies

Now Pooh is crying and saying I physically threatened 720 when all I said was he can invite me and whoever he says my burner account is to a private chat outside of here and see if he's right or not, LOL.

These three - Pooh, Steelo and 720, that's all they do. Lie constantly, and make up conspiracies about those who disagree with them.

Maybe they are the burners. lol you need to stop taking this thread so serious.


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[Pooh_Jeter]

There isn't a textbook definition of tanking and any method of team building depends on context and who is in charge. There simply is not and will never be some sort of blueprint that has to be followed like gospel. It's asinine to then believe that something you can't even define has a certain set of procedures and outcomes that can never be altered.

For someone to become violent and angry over this is scary to think about. I hope everyone's holidays are going well and we can just focus on prospects and Tangerine Raptors basketball.

[Ref_from_hell]

I guess Boston and Atlanta better rev up their tank engines.

Currently 11 teams are worse than the raptors. Boston might continue falling now that their team is experiencing health and safety protocol. They are also just not a very good team.

2 1/2 games back of the sixth place team with three games in hand!

[Ell Curry]

Remember when TwO claimed the Lakers winning a championship last year was a successful tank job despite the fact they signed arguably the 2nd best player of all-time? A better example would be to look at the New Orleans Pelicans who inherited all of the Laker's lottery picks and see how they have done. It's been a complete and utter disaster and are destined for a top 5 pick this year. I quite enjoy all these failed examples of tanks. I wonder what the next gem will be.

Now TwO is having a meltdown and are accusing people of having burner accounts again.

And it appears as though a certain poster is still rolling with that illogical, nonsensical argument about looking at number of voters. The fact he doesn't understand that a thread about tanking would generally attract more posters that are in favour of tanking than against tanking is hilarious. In addition, the poll was so bad for about two weeks that most people didn't even bother voting, including myself and posters actually referenced how bad the poll was a few weeks ago. Lastly, the majority of people in this thread wanted Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs and wanted nothing to do with Scottie prior to the draft. Considering how often TwO has been wrong, it's probably not wise to use consensus as an argument.

I like to follow a strategy that has been proven to build championships and is one that the best executives in the league use including ours. The strategy that you guys want was attempted about 10 years ago and the person who did it is now in another sport because it was such a disaster. He literally was so bad that he had to switch sports.

Didn’t the Cavs tank and draft kyrie number 1 and win a title?


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The Lakers drafted 7-2-2-2-4 and traded 2-2-4 (and other picks) for AD , one of their 2 key players in winning the title. They wouldn't have gotten a title without some of those losing seasons, no.

Similar to how the Suns smartly traded for Chris Paul and up to get Bridges, but got Ayton and Booker by being bad.

The idea that there's only doing the process or not tanking is a false one.

If we got 2 great offer for Fred and Siakam from GMs trying to save their jobs then Masai would trade them tomorrow and tank hard. If we don't, he won't move either. The Lakers didn't want to be bad, they just struck out on free agents late in Kobe's career.

Sometimes blowing up is basically forced on you like Houston with Harden demanding out (though they could have traded him for decent players and avoided a full tank, which would have been very stupid, and they **** up bad by halfway doing that and not taking the young Jarrett Allen instead of going for Oladipo), sometimes it's the smart option like Orlando getting a couple firsts for Vucevic and one for Aaron Gordon for a team going nowhere.

[youngRAPZ]

Remember when TwO claimed the Lakers winning a championship last year was a successful tank job despite the fact they signed arguably the 2nd best player of all-time? A better example would be to look at the New Orleans Pelicans who inherited all of the Laker's lottery picks and see how they have done. It's been a complete and utter disaster and are destined for a top 5 pick this year. I quite enjoy all these failed examples of tanks. I wonder what the next gem will be.

Now TwO is having a meltdown and are accusing people of having burner accounts again.

And it appears as though a certain poster is still rolling with that illogical, nonsensical argument about looking at number of voters. The fact he doesn't understand that a thread about tanking would generally attract more posters that are in favour of tanking than against tanking is hilarious. In addition, the poll was so bad for about two weeks that most people didn't even bother voting, including myself and posters actually referenced how bad the poll was a few weeks ago. Lastly, the majority of people in this thread wanted Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs and wanted nothing to do with Scottie prior to the draft. Considering how often TwO has been wrong, it's probably not wise to use consensus as an argument.

I like to follow a strategy that has been proven to build championships and is one that the best executives in the league use including ours. The strategy that you guys want was attempted about 10 years ago and the person who did it is now in another sport because it was such a disaster. He literally was so bad that he had to switch sports.

Didn’t the Cavs tank and draft kyrie number 1 and win a title?


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The Lakers drafted 7-2-2-2-4 and traded 2-2-4 (and other picks) for AD , one of their 2 key players in winning the title. They wouldn't have gotten a title without some of those losing seasons, no.

Similar to how the Suns smartly traded for Chris Paul and up to get Bridges, but got Ayton and Booker by being bad.

The idea that there's only doing the process or not tanking is a false one.

If we got 2 great offer for Fred and Siakam from GMs trying to save their jobs then Masai would trade them tomorrow and tank hard. If we don't, he won't move either. The Lakers didn't want to be bad, they just struck out on free agents late in Kobe's career.

Sometimes blowing up is basically forced on you like Houston with Harden demanding out (though they could have traded him for decent players and avoided a full tank, which would have been very stupid, and they **** up bad by halfway doing that and not taking the young Jarrett Allen instead of going for Oladipo), sometimes it's the smart option like Orlando getting a couple firsts for Vucevic and one for Aaron Gordon for a team going nowhere.

For the record I’m not In the camp that wants to trade VV or PS I think we can get a top 10 pick without doing that and I trust Masai and company to do what they do best. I come here for the discussion on the top prospects I don’t really care to discuss why we should or shouldn’t tank because in reality if we all agreed on a direction our record would still be the same and what Masai chooses to do won’t be decided based on what we want or think should happen.

That being said…….


SCOTTY & IVEY


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[Los_29]

Remember when TwO claimed the Lakers winning a championship last year was a successful tank job despite the fact they signed arguably the 2nd best player of all-time? A better example would be to look at the New Orleans Pelicans who inherited all of the Laker's lottery picks and see how they have done. It's been a complete and utter disaster and are destined for a top 5 pick this year. I quite enjoy all these failed examples of tanks. I wonder what the next gem will be.

Now TwO is having a meltdown and are accusing people of having burner accounts again.

And it appears as though a certain poster is still rolling with that illogical, nonsensical argument about looking at number of voters. The fact he doesn't understand that a thread about tanking would generally attract more posters that are in favour of tanking than against tanking is hilarious. In addition, the poll was so bad for about two weeks that most people didn't even bother voting, including myself and posters actually referenced how bad the poll was a few weeks ago. Lastly, the majority of people in this thread wanted Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs and wanted nothing to do with Scottie prior to the draft. Considering how often TwO has been wrong, it's probably not wise to use consensus as an argument.

I like to follow a strategy that has been proven to build championships and is one that the best executives in the league use including ours. The strategy that you guys want was attempted about 10 years ago and the person who did it is now in another sport because it was such a disaster. He literally was so bad that he had to switch sports.

Didn’t the Cavs tank and draft kyrie number 1 and win a title?


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They got Kyrie because Lebron left for Miami. They were awful for four years despite picking in the lottery every single year. In fact, I believe they had top 4 picks every year. They then got Lebron and the rest was history.

[youngRAPZ]

Remember when TwO claimed the Lakers winning a championship last year was a successful tank job despite the fact they signed arguably the 2nd best player of all-time? A better example would be to look at the New Orleans Pelicans who inherited all of the Laker's lottery picks and see how they have done. It's been a complete and utter disaster and are destined for a top 5 pick this year. I quite enjoy all these failed examples of tanks. I wonder what the next gem will be.

Now TwO is having a meltdown and are accusing people of having burner accounts again.

And it appears as though a certain poster is still rolling with that illogical, nonsensical argument about looking at number of voters. The fact he doesn't understand that a thread about tanking would generally attract more posters that are in favour of tanking than against tanking is hilarious. In addition, the poll was so bad for about two weeks that most people didn't even bother voting, including myself and posters actually referenced how bad the poll was a few weeks ago. Lastly, the majority of people in this thread wanted Jalen Green and Jalen Suggs and wanted nothing to do with Scottie prior to the draft. Considering how often TwO has been wrong, it's probably not wise to use consensus as an argument.

I like to follow a strategy that has been proven to build championships and is one that the best executives in the league use including ours. The strategy that you guys want was attempted about 10 years ago and the person who did it is now in another sport because it was such a disaster. He literally was so bad that he had to switch sports.

Didn’t the Cavs tank and draft kyrie number 1 and win a title?


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They got Kyrie because Lebron left for Miami. They were awful for four years despite picking in the lottery every single year. In fact, I believe they had top 4 picks every year. They then got Lebron and the rest was history.

lol well I’m playing devils advocate because I really don’t care to discuss tanking philosophy but here goes.

The cavs tanked for lebron and could no longer tank because lebron was too good. He then left and came back because they tanked and got kyrie and used other lottery picks to get Thompson and trade for love and the rest was history.


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[God Squad]

Obviously early. But does anyone have a prospect they like in particular at 10th pick? I'm learning these three without combine and a full season.

Tari Eason
Jaden Hardy
Bennedict Mathurin

After the first tier is gone, the second tier is in the eye of the beholder so to speak. Their isn't much separating say Kendall Brown Tari Eason for example (Still taking Brown over Eason).

1st tier IMO
1. Ivey
2. Jabari
3. Chet
4. Paolo

Looking at Kendall Brown and TyTy Washington right now and possibly AJ Griffin if he enters.

If we get Kendall Brown somehow at 10, we won the draft imo.

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He has just an elite natural feel for the game of basketball like Barnes.

Bring him off the bench as backup SG/SF/PF in year 1 and give him 25-28 minutes. He would go off.

Yeah Brown is who I wanted initially. But his stock has been rising fairly quickly and I don't think he'll be available to us unless we move up.

[God Squad]

This is exactly why people don't take TwO seriously. They literally have nothing so they just bring up points that have already been debunked a thousand times already.

It's unreal at this point to be using the Spurs and Heat as examples of successful tanking. It is absolutely absurd how they are unable to comprehend the difference between these teams and others.

And like you said, the Warriors actually were a true definition of a treadmill team when they got Curry. Kobe was drafted 13th overall, Dirk was drafted 9th overall, Klay was drafted 11th overall. This is honestly incredible. They are actually unintentionally agreeing with us.

Newbie ballboy back it!! The poll is up to 62 in favour! lol with more than decent sample size. Keep living in your bubble ballboy.

This man Danny1616 is so triggered he dmed me a threat.

Go touch some grass weirdo.

A New all time low right here. Just Wow.

[God Squad]

Newbie ballboy back it!! The poll is up to 62 in favour! lol with more than decent sample size. Keep living in your bubble ballboy.

This man Danny1616 is so triggered he dmed me a threat.

Go touch some grass weirdo.

So why you scared.

You accuse me of having burner accounts. Let's see if I do. If I lose I'll give you 10 grand. If I win you give me 200 bucks.

Even more pathetic is you airing a private conversation.

So you call people low IQ, makes up conspiracies about people, and then post private convos. You are really something else, eh?

RENT FREE! Just the way you're acting speaks volumes. This is actually hilarious and sad all at once.

[76ciology]

Sixers fan here.

Im a fan of Boucher because he’s my player in a dynasty fantasy league.

Im wondering why Nurse don’t play as much as he did last season? Why did he lose the job to Achiuwa, who clearly isn’t as good as him?

And lastly, how do you see his minutes going forward? Just so I know whether to keep or trade him?

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Newbie ballboy back it!! The poll is up to 62 in favour! lol with more than decent sample size. Keep living in your bubble ballboy.

This man Danny1616 is so triggered he dmed me a threat.

Go touch some grass weirdo.

A New all time low right here. Just Wow.

I'm sitting behind my burner laughing at people who want to meet up in a parking lot to settle things because people are pathetic behind their keyboards and screens.

Honest to god, it is quite amusing.

[Madhouse]

720 literally took the biggest W for triggering people into that type of DM lmao

[ATLTimekeeper]

What? Your post is all over the place there.

If you can’t read it’s not my fault. Other posters understood it.

Did you even digest what I was saying in my original post?

Nobody here is anti-draft. Some people are on board with what Ujiri/Nurse are doing...tank nation is not.

The current management team takes time to develop, evaluate and assess. They dont head into seasons purposely trying to lose. This is the crux of this thread. Most TWO posters cheer for losses and label wins as "fake wins" to patronize people which is stupid....childish nonsense. Overtime, I've realized not to take this thread seriously and just use it for comic relief like I said in my above post.

This thread was extremely active last Valentine's Day. It's a necessary community for some posters and I have no problem with it. If there's some garbage in the gamethreads about half-baked notions that everyone past a certain age is a threat to their vision of how a team should be built, then it gets called out. There's so many good posters that are quickly able to demolish the nonsense or deal with tantrums.

It's really sad to see guys get triggered into placing bad bets of actual money claiming Justin Anderson "knows our system" or being accused of having burner accounts. This is just for fun. It's entertainment, not real life stuff.

[Bruin]

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Sixers fan here.

Im a fan of Boucher because he’s my player in a dynasty fantasy league.

Im wondering why Nurse don’t play as much as he did last season? Why did he lose the job to Achiuwa, who clearly isn’t as good as him?

And lastly, how do you see his minutes going forward? Just so I know whether to keep or trade him?

Because he gets lost on defense and his offense was really inconsistent this season.

[NinjaBro]

Sixers fan here.

Im a fan of Boucher because he’s my player in a dynasty fantasy league.

Im wondering why Nurse don’t play as much as he did last season? Why did he lose the job to Achiuwa, who clearly isn’t as good as him?

And lastly, how do you see his minutes going forward? Just so I know whether to keep or trade him?

Boucher has the Bball IQ of a peanut. When the game is on the line expect him to foul a 3pt shooter at the line going for a block. We also have Pascal, OG and now Barnes so it's very difficult for Boucher to play minutes at his natural position imo PF. He's simply unsuitable to play center. Achuiwa isn't so gifted on offense as Boucher but he's strong and fundamentally sound on defense which Nurse values.

[76ciology]

Oh.. that explains everything, thanks for the response guys

*will find a trade for Boucher haha selling high on him now