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Re: Bulls Covid related stuff: Lonzo, Bradley, McKinnie, Donovan in protocol 

Post#321 » by sco » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:24 pm

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The NBA will be reducing the mandatory quarantine from 10 to six days for vaccinated players and coaches, as long as those who go into quarantine can show through COVID-19 testing that they are no longer at risk of being infectious.
This will change will be going into place immediately, and will thus impact players who recently entered the health & safety protocols. The NBA considers the day a player tests positive Day Zero, so it'll be seven days out from that point for vaccinated players if they can show that they aren't contagious. The NBA had 172 people enter the health and safety protocols over the past two weeks, with a single-day high of 24 going into quarantine on Sunday. This new, shortened quarantine period should make the league more manageable and fantasy hoops more enjoyable.
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The NBA will be reducing the mandatory quarantine from 10 to six days for vaccinated players and coaches, as long as those who go into quarantine can show through COVID-19 testing that they are no longer at risk of being infectious.
This will change will be going into place immediately, and will thus impact players who recently entered the health & safety protocols. The NBA considers the day a player tests positive Day Zero, so it'll be seven days out from that point for vaccinated players if they can show that they aren't contagious. The NBA had 172 people enter the health and safety protocols over the past two weeks, with a single-day high of 24 going into quarantine on Sunday. This new, shortened quarantine period should make the league more manageable and fantasy hoops more enjoyable.


For the regular person...if you do not have a booster shot, you have to quarantine for 5 days after your exposure. The old definition of fully vaccinated is no more. I wonder how teams will feel about that? Hopefully everyone gets a booster.
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Re: Bulls Covid related stuff: Lonzo, Bradley, McKinnie, Donovan in protocol 

Post#323 » by Michael Jackson » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:13 am

I got the Covid on XMas morning. Well I assume it is I have been on lockdown and haven’t gone out for a test yet. The Omi is pretty infectious no doubt though.
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Re: Bulls Covid related stuff: Lonzo, Bradley, McKinnie, Donovan in protocol 

Post#324 » by cool007 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:11 am

So if it's 6 days now, when will Lonzo and others be back from Covid?
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Post#325 » by gf2020hotmail » Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:50 am

cool007 wrote:So if it's 6 days now, when will Lonzo and others be back from Covid?

I believe the day of testing counts so January 1st against the Wizards is a possibility but January 3rd against Magic is a safer bet.

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Post#327 » by gf2020hotmail » Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:06 pm

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Wednesday game is very likely to still be played as the Hawks signed a replacement player and I'd imagine Gallinari and Huerter have a chance of testing out out of the protocols or being free to play due to the new protocols.

In other Bulls covid news, Montrez Harrell unless he quickly gets two negative tests will miss our Saturday game with the Wizards as he's entered the protocols.
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Post#328 » by gf2020hotmail » Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:46 pm

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Hawks signed two more guys, so the Wednesday game is on unless something really wacky happens.
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Post#329 » by MGB8 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:22 pm

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Hawks signed two more guys, so the Wednesday game is on unless something really wacky happens.



Cam Oliver is an interesting 10 day guy; was one of the guys I wanted the Bulls to take a look at in pre-season. Has some skills as a combo forward, more 4 than 3, that has some rim defending ability.

But he seems stiffer than I had hoped he would be - explaining why he hasn't managed to stick. Still, will be interesting what he shows (if he gets any PT).
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Post#330 » by kodo » Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:23 am

Ilyasova is our 16th player to have entered health & safety protocols, is that a league record? Somehow I think it will be broken we're only in December.
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Post#332 » by Dresden » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:03 pm

The US broke it's single day record for new Covid cases yesterday at 265K new cases. As the 14 day moving average for new cases stands at +125%, however, the deaths are actually at -5%. I realize deaths will lag behind new cases, but the difference there is startling, and shows that Omicron is not claiming as many lives. That, plus the fact that many people who are catching Omicron have been double or triple vaxxed is also helping.
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Post#333 » by dougthonus » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:09 pm

Dresden wrote:The US broke it's single day record for new Covid cases yesterday at 265K new cases. As the 14 day moving average for new cases stands at +125%, however, the deaths are actually at -5%. I realize deaths will lag behind new cases, but the difference there is startling, and shows that Omicron is not claiming as many lives. That, plus the fact that many people who are catching Omicron have been double or triple vaxxed is also helping.


We will see how it changes with Omicron, the sad news is that since around Sept 1st (about 4 full months now) we're averaging a mortality rate that would be around 500k deaths a year from COVID which is a tick below Heart Disease and Cancer (600k or so each) but more than triple the next leading causes.

According to my quick google search, Omicron is now about 56% of cases, given that it just got here a month ago, odds are that it will be nearly 100% of cases shortly (much like Delta took over) and if that happens we'll find out in maybe 3 months what the mortality rate looks like.

My hope is that it falls, because at its current level, I suspect we'll still be at significant restrictions, but hopefully the combination of boosters, vaccination rate increases, natural immunity from infection, and a less deadly dominant strain will combine to give us a much lower mortality rate going forward.

One thing to keep in mind is that if Omicron mutates into something more deadly while keeping it's contagious behavior and still being resistant to vaccines then things could turn worse really fast too at some point in a year. That said, based on similar types of viruses historically, it doesn't seem like that's all that likely. With other similar outbreaks it kind of feels like people get exposed enough and then develop enough immunities towards it that the deadliness is less.
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Post#334 » by sco » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:19 pm

Not a COVID item, but DJJ is back tonight!
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Post#335 » by CaPiTanAK » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:23 pm

I cheer for the infectious Omicrob sweeping across the globe and auto-immunizing everyone. This is the vaccine that everyone is looking for. Omicron parties need to be held and encouraged by global governments in order to move us past this Covid nonsense which is partly pushed by big pharmacies in order to massively profit from q3 vs q6 vs q12 months of boosters.
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Post#336 » by Almost Retired » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:29 pm

Dresden wrote:The US broke it's single day record for new Covid cases yesterday at 265K new cases. As the 14 day moving average for new cases stands at +125%, however, the deaths are actually at -5%. I realize deaths will lag behind new cases, but the difference there is startling, and shows that Omicron is not claiming as many lives. That, plus the fact that many people who are catching Omicron have been double or triple vaxxed is also helping.


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/covid-19-will-become-just-another-cause-common-cold-uk-professor
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Re: Bulls Covid related stuff: Lonzo, Bradley, McKinnie, Donovan in protocol 

Post#337 » by coldfish » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:34 pm

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We will see how it changes with Omicron, the sad news is that since around Sept 1st (about 4 full months now) we're averaging a mortality rate that would be around 500k deaths a year from COVID which is a tick below Heart Disease and Cancer (600k or so each) but more than triple the next leading causes.

According to my quick google search, Omicron is now about 56% of cases, given that it just got here a month ago, odds are that it will be nearly 100% of cases shortly (much like Delta took over) and if that happens we'll find out in maybe 3 months what the mortality rate looks like.

My hope is that it falls, because at its current level, I suspect we'll still be at significant restrictions, but hopefully the combination of boosters, vaccination rate increases, natural immunity from infection, and a less deadly dominant strain will combine to give us a much lower mortality rate going forward.

One thing to keep in mind is that if Omicron mutates into something more deadly while keeping it's contagious behavior and still being resistant to vaccines then things could turn worse really fast too at some point in a year. That said, based on similar types of viruses historically, it doesn't seem like that's all that likely. With other similar outbreaks it kind of feels like people get exposed enough and then develop enough immunities towards it that the deadliness is less.


I'm sure you have read this:

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-thrives-airways-not-lungs-new-data-asymptomatic-cases-2021-12-15/
https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/17/preliminary-laboratory-data-hint-at-what-makes-omicron-the-most-superspreading-variant-yet/

TLDR: Omicron infects upper airway cells 70x as much as delta but lung tissue 1/10th as much as delta.

There is a real, biological reason for the difference in severity. To some extent, this actual physical difference between upper airway and lung tissue explains why viruses tend to get more infectious and less deadly. Anything taking off in the upper airways is going to have a massive reproductive advantage, yet be more mild.

It would be difficult for omicron to go backwards without giving up infectiousness.

As someone who has omicron (most likely, I'm positive in a high omicron area with omicron symptoms) right now and had real covid last year, they aren't the same virus.
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Post#338 » by dougthonus » Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:40 pm

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We will see how it changes with Omicron, the sad news is that since around Sept 1st (about 4 full months now) we're averaging a mortality rate that would be around 500k deaths a year from COVID which is a tick below Heart Disease and Cancer (600k or so each) but more than triple the next leading causes.

According to my quick google search, Omicron is now about 56% of cases, given that it just got here a month ago, odds are that it will be nearly 100% of cases shortly (much like Delta took over) and if that happens we'll find out in maybe 3 months what the mortality rate looks like.

My hope is that it falls, because at its current level, I suspect we'll still be at significant restrictions, but hopefully the combination of boosters, vaccination rate increases, natural immunity from infection, and a less deadly dominant strain will combine to give us a much lower mortality rate going forward.

One thing to keep in mind is that if Omicron mutates into something more deadly while keeping it's contagious behavior and still being resistant to vaccines then things could turn worse really fast too at some point in a year. That said, based on similar types of viruses historically, it doesn't seem like that's all that likely. With other similar outbreaks it kind of feels like people get exposed enough and then develop enough immunities towards it that the deadliness is less.


I'm sure you have read this:

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-thrives-airways-not-lungs-new-data-asymptomatic-cases-2021-12-15/
https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/17/preliminary-laboratory-data-hint-at-what-makes-omicron-the-most-superspreading-variant-yet/

TLDR: Omicron infects upper airway cells 70x as much as delta but lung tissue 1/10th as much as delta.

There is a real, biological reason for the difference in severity. To some extent, this actual physical difference between upper airway and lung tissue explains why viruses tend to get more infectious and less deadly. Anything taking off in the upper airways is going to have a massive reproductive advantage, yet be more mild.

It would be difficult for omicron to go backwards without giving up infectiousness.

As someone who has omicron (most likely, I'm positive in a high omicron area with omicron symptoms) right now and had real covid last year, they aren't the same virus.


Had not seen that, thanks!
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Post#339 » by Dresden » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:18 am

From one of those articles linked above:

Chan added, "By infecting many more people, a very infectious virus may cause more severe disease and death even though the virus itself may be less pathogenic. Therefore, taken together with our recent studies showing that the Omicron variant can partially escape immunity from vaccines and past infection, the overall threat from Omicron variant is likely to be very significant."

So even though it may be weaker, because of the larger numbers it will infect, the death toll may still be quite high from Omicron.
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Post#340 » by Dresden » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:20 am

Because it seems the mechanism Omicron uses to attach to cells is different than previous variants, I wonder if a new vaccine that is Omicron specific may be developed eventually.

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