Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[cl2117]

Ready to trade Brown. He completely dismissing Al comments rubbed me the wrong way.

That was a cherry picked quote. Don't think it has anything to do with Al. He took full accountability for letting the team down that night, people are just looking for drama. He said all the right things up until that point.

[Tyakack]

Trade brown, get dame and beal here.

[MagicBagley18]

I find it funny that people still think dame is having a down year- he had a down 9 first games to the year and then he’s been right on par for his usual numbers and likely ends up again as an all nba player.

Stop pushing that narrative. You don’t brown for beal at this point if he demanded a trade and TRULY wanted to be here. Part of trading for dame btw is another sell for beal.

[dkb965]

Fred VanVleet would be perfect for the Celtics, but he is too important to the Raptors for them to trade him away. Jalen Brunson would be a good get in free agency for the Celtics this offseason. The Celtics need to wait to get off of that terrible Horford contract and use that money on a quality point guard. They should also see what they can get for Smart and Williams.

[Jammer]

For years I have been able to propose Realistic trades. Got nothing this time.

Fortunately the Celtics have SEVEN 1rst Round Picks over the next 7 years, with 4 being tradeable immediately (every other year). Can swap the other 3.

The Celtics also have Four 2nd Round Picks (2022, Portland's 2023, either Houston, Dallas' or Miami's 2023, 2028).

Only guys I am inclined to trade are:

Juancho Hernangomez (expiring salary filler with next season unguaranteed)
Bruno Fernando (expiring salary filler)
Jabari Parker (expiring, would a playoff team give up a 2nd round pick for a Free Agent in July?)
Dennis Schroder (expiring who MAY get offers outbidding the Celtics next year)
Marcus Smart (IF A TOP 12 PG were coming back)
Aaron Nesmith

[Celtics_Champs]

[chrisab123]

The easy fix would be getting a distributer that can play defense at point guard and surrounding Brown and Tatum with shooters. I honestly think the player I'm going to mention is incredibly overrated and until last week I was against acquiring him because I honestly believe he would never want to play in a market like Boston, but what the hell...Ben Simmons. Yes he can't shoot but for the point guard the Celtics need that's kind of the point. Step one in this whole thing is trading Smart and potentially RW3 and picks for Simmons. Listen, at the core of this the Celtics make all the sense in the world for Simmons. You get someone who matches Marcus' ability defensively and some would say exceeds it and is a very tall point guard. Gives the Celtics height in the backcourt and would create mismatches. Then get some shooters around them and go to town.

[Tomjas]

The easy fix would be getting a distributer that can play defense at point guard and surrounding Brown and Tatum with shooters. I honestly think the player I'm going to mention is incredibly overrated and until last week I was against acquiring him because I honestly believe he would never want to play in a market like Boston, but what the hell...Ben Simmons. Yes he can't shoot but for the point guard the Celtics need that's kind of the point. Step one in this whole thing is trading Smart and potentially RW3 and picks for Simmons. Listen, at the core of this the Celtics make all the sense in the world for Simmons. You get someone who matches Marcus' ability defensively and some would say exceeds it and is a very tall point guard. Gives the Celtics height in the backcourt and would create mismatches. Then get some shooters around them and go to town.

Smart will be very good next to Simmons

I am a Sixers fan

Trade Brown for Simmons & the Sixers are the losers

The Sixers lack athleticism, size, rebounding, defence and passing ability

They need Simmons

[Celts17Pride]

The easy fix would be getting a distributer that can play defense at point guard and surrounding Brown and Tatum with shooters. I honestly think the player I'm going to mention is incredibly overrated and until last week I was against acquiring him because I honestly believe he would never want to play in a market like Boston, but what the hell...Ben Simmons. Yes he can't shoot but for the point guard the Celtics need that's kind of the point. Step one in this whole thing is trading Smart and potentially RW3 and picks for Simmons. Listen, at the core of this the Celtics make all the sense in the world for Simmons. You get someone who matches Marcus' ability defensively and some would say exceeds it and is a very tall point guard. Gives the Celtics height in the backcourt and would create mismatches. Then get some shooters around them and go to town.

Smart will be very good next to Simmons

I am a Sixers fan

Trade Brown for Simmons & the Sixers are the losers

The Sixers lack athleticism, size, rebounding, defence and passing ability

They need Simmons

Celtics are not trading Jaylen Brown for Ben Simmons. Celtics just shot 4-42 from three point range. A Smart/Simmons backcourt is a train wreck

[cl2117]

I find it funny that people still think dame is having a down year- he had a down 9 first games to the year and then he’s been right on par for his usual numbers and likely ends up again as an all nba player.

Stop pushing that narrative. You don’t brown for beal at this point if he demanded a trade and TRULY wanted to be here. Part of trading for dame btw is another sell for beal.

He had an awful October, decent November and great December. Overall it's still a down year for him, but he's trending back in the right direction. If he stays on his December trajectory, yeah he'll be in the all-NBA conversation.

[Tomjas]

The easy fix would be getting a distributer that can play defense at point guard and surrounding Brown and Tatum with shooters. I honestly think the player I'm going to mention is incredibly overrated and until last week I was against acquiring him because I honestly believe he would never want to play in a market like Boston, but what the hell...Ben Simmons. Yes he can't shoot but for the point guard the Celtics need that's kind of the point. Step one in this whole thing is trading Smart and potentially RW3 and picks for Simmons. Listen, at the core of this the Celtics make all the sense in the world for Simmons. You get someone who matches Marcus' ability defensively and some would say exceeds it and is a very tall point guard. Gives the Celtics height in the backcourt and would create mismatches. Then get some shooters around them and go to town.

Smart will be very good next to Simmons

I am a Sixers fan

Trade Brown for Simmons & the Sixers are the losers

The Sixers lack athleticism, size, rebounding, defence and passing ability

They need Simmons

Celtics are not trading Jaylen Brown for Ben Simmons. Celtics just shot 4-42 from three point range. A Smart/Simmons backcourt is a train wreck

It’s the best defensive backcourt in the game

[Celts17Pride]

Smart will be very good next to Simmons

I am a Sixers fan

Trade Brown for Simmons & the Sixers are the losers

The Sixers lack athleticism, size, rebounding, defence and passing ability

They need Simmons

Celtics are not trading Jaylen Brown for Ben Simmons. Celtics just shot 4-42 from three point range. A Smart/Simmons backcourt is a train wreck

It’s the best defensive backcourt in the game

Big deal. Tatum and Brown struggle now because the Celtics don’t have anyone else to put the ball in the basket. Jaylen Brown had 8 potential assists last night and registered 0.

Because no one else on the Celtics can make a shot Tatum and Brown resort to forcing things and trying to do it themselves.

A Simmons/Smart backcourt would only make things worse. You can only have one non shooter in the lineup and the Celtics prefer Smart. Smart doesn’t quit on the team and gives 100%. Smart is not a good shooter but he also doesn’t pee his pants and refuse to shoot.

Sixers can keep Simmons

[Celtics_Champs]

That’s actually the reason I came here. Well, and I missed you guys, good to see you.

But I read on the Athletic the idea of Simmons for Brown and they made it seem like most fans would accept that now.

Not me. I don’t know where I would go with this team, they’re not fun to watch at all. But adding Simmons and subtracting Brown would not help this issue.

[chrisab123]

That’s actually the reason I came here. Well, and I missed you guys, good to see you.

But I read on the Athletic the idea of Simmons for Brown and they made it seem like most fans would accept that now.

Not me. I don’t know where I would go with this team, they’re not fun to watch at all. But adding Simmons and subtracting Brown would not help this issue.

Simmons would be good WITH Brown. Not in place of him. If not my original idea then you could also potentially do something with Timelord for Bagley and Hield. But I don't think the Celtics long term benefit there. Hield would be a solid shooter here though. Kings should be a good partner.

[Fencer reregistered]

Why so much eagerness to trade away Timelord?

[Curmudgeon]

Well, if they keep losing-- and I expect they will-- the LAST thing I want to do is trade away picks. This year's first rounder is looking more and more like a lottery pick. I want to acquire picks.

Players I want to keep:
1. Marcus Smart, who sets an example with his intensity.
2. Grant Williams-- He plays good defense and has turned himself into a competent shooter.
3. Brodrick Thomas. He showed me last night that he is an NBA player.
4. Juhann Begarin and Yam Madar. Both have real potential.

I thought about putting Pritchard and Hauser on the above list, but neither one can defend at the NBA level.

Everyone else should go. Everyone. Stevens needs to channel his inner Sam Presti.

[chrisab123]

Why so much eagerness to trade away Timelord?

Honestly, with me it's his salary and the fact he's one of their only good young pieces which could yield more help. Bigs aren't as important as they were 20 years ago. I like him. I think he's solid despite his injury history. But this team just needs a lot of help.

[chrisab123]

Well, if they keep losing-- and I expect they will-- the LAST thing I want to do is trade away picks. This year's first rounder is looking more and more like a lottery pick. I want to acquire picks.

Players I want to keep:
1. Marcus Smart, who sets an example with his intensity.
2. Grant Williams-- He plays good defense and has turned himself into a competent shooter.
3. Brodrick Thomas. He showed me last night that he is an NBA player.
4. Juhann Begarin and Yam Madar. Both have real potential.

I thought about putting Pritchard and Hauser on the above list, but neither one can defend at the NBA level.

Everyone else should go. Everyone. Stevens needs to channel his inner Sam Presti.

So you want to keep Marcus as part of blowing it up? That doesn't make any sense.

[Fencer reregistered]

Why so much eagerness to trade away Timelord?

Honestly, with me it's his salary and the fact he's one of their only good young pieces which could yield more help. Bigs aren't as important as they were 20 years ago. I like him. I think he's solid despite his injury history. But this team just needs a lot of help.

If you want to drastically downgrade our bigs, just what is this "lot of help" we need?

[Fencer reregistered]

Well, if they keep losing-- and I expect they will-- the LAST thing I want to do is trade away picks. This year's first rounder is looking more and more like a lottery pick. I want to acquire picks.

Players I want to keep:
1. Marcus Smart, who sets an example with his intensity.
2. Grant Williams-- He plays good defense and has turned himself into a competent shooter.
3. Brodrick Thomas. He showed me last night that he is an NBA player.
4. Juhann Begarin and Yam Madar. Both have real potential.

I thought about putting Pritchard and Hauser on the above list, but neither one can defend at the NBA level.

Everyone else should go. Everyone. Stevens needs to channel his inner Sam Presti.

So you want to keep Marcus as part of blowing it up? That doesn't make any sense.

Curmudgeon's player evaluations are ... nonstandard.