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Post#2601 » by nzahir » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:01 pm

Heej wrote:I saw that pistons asking for THT Nunn and a FRP for Jerami Grant? Am i crazy for thinking I'd take that deal in a heartbeat?

I would probably do it, but I prefer to keep Nunn if possible

Grant is a negative on RAPTOR and the LEBRON index, but a positive Box Plus Minus

If we could somehow do THT, Baze, DJ and Ellington, our 1st and 2-3 2nds, all in

I consider bringing Russ off the bench even

Nunn, Reaves, Grant, Lebron, AD
Russ, Monk, Ariza, Melo, Dwight
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Post#2602 » by falcolombardi » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:01 pm

Heej wrote:I saw that pistons asking for THT Nunn and a FRP for Jerami Grant? Am i crazy for thinking I'd take that deal in a heartbeat?


i would do it
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Post#2603 » by falcolombardi » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:05 pm

LukaTheGOAT wrote:I find it funny how everyone is mentioning Lebron's old man game, and him playing as a roller. In this podcast, Ben Taylor when attempting to project Lebron's longevity and how his game could look moving forward, he brings up Karl Malone as his closest analogue. They are the closest in terms of body types and he felt like Lebron could play a long time as a big
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I think you are seeing a lot of this play out now, where Lebron does have the necessary size, to be a roller like Malone, while also the versatility to be a creator from the perimeter. Malone was a great player until his retirement, and have GOAT longevity, so maybe this could be a sign of things to come for James (let's hope)?


fairly underated versatility

we sometimes think of portability as only off ball offense/shooting, but lebron ability to play a big-man like game and a perimeter game in both ends of the court is underated as far as portability/ceiling raising goes
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Post#2604 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:18 pm

Heej wrote:I saw that pistons asking for THT Nunn and a FRP for Jerami Grant? Am i crazy for thinking I'd take that deal in a heartbeat?


I've only seen reports of that being a potential trade speculated by analysts, and not something that's actually on the table or discussed. But if that's the asking price, I would do it instantly, assuming Grant's hand injury isn't a big deal and he'll be back by February.

He's not the best 3pt shooter or the best wing defender, but he's above average at both and should be considered a borderline elite 3 and D player. AD/LeBron/Grant/Ariza/Westbrook is a crazy versatile lineup and could switch 2-5.
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Post#2605 » by dcstanley » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:27 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:Their main goal should be trading Westbrook, so trading a FRP is a bad move. If they wanna get rid of THT they should target someone like Nance or Covingron

Only trade at the deadline that might be feasible is Westbrook + 2027 1st for Wall. Then, they could try to swing THT, Nunn, Bazemore, and two 2nd round picks for Harrison Barnes.

Starting lineup:
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Reaves
Ariza
Barnes
AD

Bench: Wall/Collison, Monk/Ellington, Stanley Johnson, Melo, Dwight
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Post#2606 » by nzahir » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:42 pm

dcstanley wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Their main goal should be trading Westbrook, so trading a FRP is a bad move. If they wanna get rid of THT they should target someone like Nance or Covingron

Only trade at the deadline that might be feasible is Westbrook + 2027 1st for Wall. Then, they could try to swing THT, Nunn, Bazemore, and two 2nd round picks for Harrison Barnes.

Starting lineup:
Lebron
Reaves
Ariza
Barnes
AD

Bench: Wall/Collison, Monk/Ellington, Stanley Johnson, Melo, Dwight

Not using the 2027 1st for John Wall lol

I rather tell Russ he is coming off the bench
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Post#2607 » by Mos_Heat » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:20 pm

dcstanley wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Their main goal should be trading Westbrook, so trading a FRP is a bad move. If they wanna get rid of THT they should target someone like Nance or Covingron

Only trade at the deadline that might be feasible is Westbrook + 2027 1st for Wall. Then, they could try to swing THT, Nunn, Bazemore, and two 2nd round picks for Harrison Barnes.

Starting lineup:
Lebron
Reaves
Ariza
Barnes
AD

Bench: Wall/Collison, Monk/Ellington, Stanley Johnson, Melo, Dwight

I'm not even talking about this season. This season is probably over, but the can't punt on the next one
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Post#2608 » by Heej » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:27 pm

nzahir wrote:Frank Vogel confirmed on Backstage Lakers that David Fizdale is the team's offensive coordinator. This is notable because over the last two seasons he was loathe to publicly admit who did what

Disgusting, half the posters on here could do what he does

Bruh lol this explains a lot
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Post#2609 » by thebigbird » Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:55 pm

nzahir wrote:
Heej wrote:I saw that pistons asking for THT Nunn and a FRP for Jerami Grant? Am i crazy for thinking I'd take that deal in a heartbeat?

I would probably do it, but I prefer to keep Nunn if possible

Grant is a negative on RAPTOR and the LEBRON index, but a positive Box Plus Minus

If we could somehow do THT, Baze, DJ and Ellington, our 1st and 2-3 2nds, all in

I consider bringing Russ off the bench even

Nunn, Reaves, Grant, Lebron, AD
Russ, Monk, Ariza, Melo, Dwight
Avery

Nunn hasn’t played at all this year, and I’d trade THT for a sack of potatoes, so I’d easily do that deal.
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Post#2610 » by dcstanley » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:14 pm

thebigbird wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Heej wrote:I saw that pistons asking for THT Nunn and a FRP for Jerami Grant? Am i crazy for thinking I'd take that deal in a heartbeat?

I would probably do it, but I prefer to keep Nunn if possible

Grant is a negative on RAPTOR and the LEBRON index, but a positive Box Plus Minus

If we could somehow do THT, Baze, DJ and Ellington, our 1st and 2-3 2nds, all in

I consider bringing Russ off the bench even

Nunn, Reaves, Grant, Lebron, AD
Russ, Monk, Ariza, Melo, Dwight
Avery

Nunn hasn’t played at all this year, and I’d trade THT for a sack of potatoes, so I’d easily do that deal.

Theoretically, Nunn has value as Westbrook insurance. I could see him closing over Westbrook in important games. But who knows how he's going to look when he returns. Probably better to cut losses with him now.
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Post#2611 » by thebigbird » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:30 pm

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thebigbird wrote:
nzahir wrote:I would probably do it, but I prefer to keep Nunn if possible

Grant is a negative on RAPTOR and the LEBRON index, but a positive Box Plus Minus

If we could somehow do THT, Baze, DJ and Ellington, our 1st and 2-3 2nds, all in

I consider bringing Russ off the bench even

Nunn, Reaves, Grant, Lebron, AD
Russ, Monk, Ariza, Melo, Dwight
Avery

Nunn hasn’t played at all this year, and I’d trade THT for a sack of potatoes, so I’d easily do that deal.

Theoretically, Nunn has value as Westbrook insurance. I could see him closing over Westbrook in important games. But who knows how he's going to look when he returns. Probably better to cut losses with him now.

I’d be shocked if they actually bench Russ in important games. If they do I’d be thrilled, but not sure Frank would do it. I think I’m comfortable with Collison as Westbrook insurance, honestly. He hasn’t done a whole lot but he’s been steady and probably has the second best bball intelligence on the team. We just have too many guards on this team and too few wings. A 6’8 guy like Grant would be great. Hell, a guy in Stanley Johnson who had one foot out of the NBA looks great in the lineup because they needed a wing so desperately.
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Post#2612 » by trickshot » Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:40 pm

I think it's crazy Westbrook is only just now being accountable for these things. He has been doing these things for years. Makes you wonder if the media have only been looking at boxscores all these years. Where was all of this when it was still possible to improve? Then early okc didn't help him by protecting and enabling these traits. Playing hard isn't a pass. Should a player get a pass for running into a dead end just because he did it at a 100mph? because that's Westbrook's effort in a nutshell.

Westbrook is the first star in league history to have zero play to play consistency, effortlessly chains assist possessions with alley oops that smash the backboard then goes from well weighted bank shots to blown layups. You can't really go anywhere when your pg play is that bipolar.

Then in the big games his scoring is no different from Ben Simmons, even his revenge games where he comes out on fire end poorly. At least he's consistent in the clutch, consistently unimpactful, don't be fooled by the raw production.
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Post#2613 » by TroubleS0me » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:11 pm

just finished watching Vs Grizzlies
Lakers missed AD in this one. Melo cant be your small ball PF, we all know he's a one-side player(offense only)
Dwight look cooked in this game
Westbrook/Lakers let Ja Morant get going & it started with that transition 3.
On the positive side LBJ is making his Free throw season almost 80% FT%.
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Post#2615 » by nzahir » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:19 pm

Heej wrote:
nzahir wrote:Frank Vogel confirmed on Backstage Lakers that David Fizdale is the team's offensive coordinator. This is notable because over the last two seasons he was loathe to publicly admit who did what

Disgusting, half the posters on here could do what he does

Bruh lol this explains a lot

Yup, pathetic

I dont get why Lebron likes to make things harder on himself

Dantoni or Stotts should be on this staff
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Post#2616 » by nzahir » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:19 pm

thebigbird wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Heej wrote:I saw that pistons asking for THT Nunn and a FRP for Jerami Grant? Am i crazy for thinking I'd take that deal in a heartbeat?

I would probably do it, but I prefer to keep Nunn if possible

Grant is a negative on RAPTOR and the LEBRON index, but a positive Box Plus Minus

If we could somehow do THT, Baze, DJ and Ellington, our 1st and 2-3 2nds, all in

I consider bringing Russ off the bench even

Nunn, Reaves, Grant, Lebron, AD
Russ, Monk, Ariza, Melo, Dwight
Avery

Nunn hasn’t played at all this year, and I’d trade THT for a sack of potatoes, so I’d easily do that deal.

I have hopes for Nunn as I could see Russ being benched at times if he is out of control

Grant also wont be back for about 2 months as well
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Post#2617 » by nzahir » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:21 pm

thebigbird wrote:
dcstanley wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Nunn hasn’t played at all this year, and I’d trade THT for a sack of potatoes, so I’d easily do that deal.

Theoretically, Nunn has value as Westbrook insurance. I could see him closing over Westbrook in important games. But who knows how he's going to look when he returns. Probably better to cut losses with him now.

I’d be shocked if they actually bench Russ in important games. If they do I’d be thrilled, but not sure Frank would do it. I think I’m comfortable with Collison as Westbrook insurance, honestly. He hasn’t done a whole lot but he’s been steady and probably has the second best bball intelligence on the team. We just have too many guards on this team and too few wings. A 6’8 guy like Grant would be great. Hell, a guy in Stanley Johnson who had one foot out of the NBA looks great in the lineup because they needed a wing so desperately.

Collison hasn't done anything though, so idk about that

Salaries are nearly impossible without Nunn though

Unless we send out THT and 4 guys and ge Grant and 1 filler back

Would probably need a 3rd team to absorb someone for 1-2 2nds
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