Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0

[Knightro]

Individual performances of a rookie doesn't change fact team is complete and utter dog***t at all aspects of basketball game.
Also there is clear connection with above noted "top 5 worst" and Franz stats. Franz Wagner took most shots by a rookie this year. Matter of fact he took 78 shots more than second player with most shots.
He took 161 shot more than Evan Mobley for example. 126 shots more than Barnes.

Partically this comes from fact he played few games more than them, however, both Barnes & Mobley would have to take at least 18 shots a game for whole duration of "gap" between games to catch up with his shots total.

This is so goofy and out of context.

It's not "partially because he's played a few more games" -- it's entirely because of that. And 8 more games than Barnes and 9 more games than Mobley isn't a "few" games either. It's 10% of the season.

Wagner takes 13.1 shots per game. Barnes takes 12.7 shots per game. Literally a 0.4 shots per game difference.

Wagner has played 35 games. Barnes has played 27.

If you added 8 games to Barnes' season that 126 shot gap Franz has on him would magically become just a 15 shot gap.

Mobley does take fewer shots than Franz and Barnes at 11.5 per game, but that's to be expected because offensively he's a big and not a ball handling big wing like the other two. But either way, normalize Mobley to the same amount of games played as Franz and that 161 shot gap magically becomes a 57 shot gap.

Evan Mobley took 299 shots in 26 games.
Franz Wagner took 473 shots in 36 games.

That's 174 shots gap over 10 games. In order to evan up amount of shots, Mobley would have to take 17,4 shots a game.
How many times Mobley took over 17 shots a game in first 26 games? Zero. *late edit, took 20 shots tonight*

Scottie Barnes took 344 shots over 27 games. 129 shots gap over 9 games. 14,3 shots a game to close a gap. How many times Scotty took 15 shots a game in nba? 7 in 27 games. So probability of that outcome is 26% per meeting. Witch means that, even if Scotty played as many games as Wagner did, he would still fall below Franz in shot attemps.

Only goofy and out of contest is being subjective to the point where 5th grade math is failing you.
Franz takes most shots per game than any rookie not named Cade, including Jalen Green who is being called "chucker" for it. Only objective difference is that Franz's is bit closer to league's average efficiency (54% vs 52% TS) .

Franz Wagner took at least 20 shots - 4 times.
Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie Barnes and Jalen Suggs (all top 5 picks combined) - 5.

Case closed.
Verdict: due injuries, Suggs struggles, Isaac doing everything but basketball, Fultz nursing injury, no depth, no talent, Franz Wanger has been given golden opportunity to lead all rookies in shot attemps, by wide margin.

There’s a stat you can look up on any basketball website called field goal attempts per game.

Wagner takes 13.1 FG per game. Barnes takes 12.7.

Normalize the two of them to the same amount of games played and Wagner’s taken all of 15 more shots total for the season. 457 for Barnes to 472 for Wagner.

Wagner is not leading all rookies in shot attempts PER GAME by a wide margin. He leads in total shots because hasn’t gotten hurt or gotten COVID (yet) and so he’s just played a lot more games than everyone else.

This isn’t some whacky concept to grasp.

[tiderulz]

Individual performances of a rookie doesn't change fact team is complete and utter dog***t at all aspects of basketball game.
Also there is clear connection with above noted "top 5 worst" and Franz stats. Franz Wagner took most shots by a rookie this year. Matter of fact he took 78 shots more than second player with most shots.
He took 161 shot more than Evan Mobley for example. 126 shots more than Barnes.

Partically this comes from fact he played few games more than them, however, both Barnes & Mobley would have to take at least 18 shots a game for whole duration of "gap" between games to catch up with his shots total.

This is so goofy and out of context.

It's not "partially because he's played a few more games" -- it's entirely because of that. And 8 more games than Barnes and 9 more games than Mobley isn't a "few" games either. It's 10% of the season.

Wagner takes 13.1 shots per game. Barnes takes 12.7 shots per game. Literally a 0.4 shots per game difference.

Wagner has played 35 games. Barnes has played 27.

If you added 8 games to Barnes' season that 126 shot gap Franz has on him would magically become just a 15 shot gap.

Mobley does take fewer shots than Franz and Barnes at 11.5 per game, but that's to be expected because offensively he's a big and not a ball handling big wing like the other two. But either way, normalize Mobley to the same amount of games played as Franz and that 161 shot gap magically becomes a 57 shot gap.

[tiderulz]

Individual performances of a rookie doesn't change fact team is complete and utter dog***t at all aspects of basketball game.
Also there is clear connection with above noted "top 5 worst" and Franz stats. Franz Wagner took most shots by a rookie this year. Matter of fact he took 78 shots more than second player with most shots.
He took 161 shot more than Evan Mobley for example. 126 shots more than Barnes.

Partically this comes from fact he played few games more than them, however, both Barnes & Mobley would have to take at least 18 shots a game for whole duration of "gap" between games to catch up with his shots total.

This is so goofy and out of context.

It's not "partially because he's played a few more games" -- it's entirely because of that. And 8 more games than Barnes and 9 more games than Mobley isn't a "few" games either. It's 10% of the season.

Wagner takes 13.1 shots per game. Barnes takes 12.7 shots per game. Literally a 0.4 shots per game difference.

Wagner has played 35 games. Barnes has played 27.

If you added 8 games to Barnes' season that 126 shot gap Franz has on him would magically become just a 15 shot gap.

Mobley does take fewer shots than Franz and Barnes at 11.5 per game, but that's to be expected because offensively he's a big and not a ball handling big wing like the other two. But either way, normalize Mobley to the same amount of games played as Franz and that 161 shot gap magically becomes a 57 shot gap.

Evan Mobley took 299 shots in 26 games.
Franz Wagner took 473 shots in 36 games.

That's 174 shots gap over 10 games. In order to evan up amount of shots, Mobley would have to take 17,4 shots a game.
How many times Mobley took over 17 shots a game in first 26 games? Zero. *late edit, took 20 shots tonight*


Scottie Barnes took 344 shots over 27 games. 129 shots gap over 9 games. 14,3 shots a game to close a gap. How many times Scotty took 15 shots a game in nba? 7 in 27 games. So probability of that outcome is 26% per meeting. Witch means that, even if Scotty played as many games as Wagner did, he would still fall below Franz in shot attemps.

This is so goofy and out of context.

It's not "partially because he's played a few more games" -- it's entirely because of that. And 8 more games than Barnes and 9 more games than Mobley isn't a "few" games either. It's 10% of the season.

Only goofy and out of contest is being subjective to the point where 5th grade math is failing you.
Franz takes most shots per game than any rookie not named Cade, including Jalen Green who is being called "chucker" for it. Only objective difference is that Franz's is bit closer to league's average efficiency (54% vs 52% TS) .

Franz Wagner took at least 20 shots - 4 times.
Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie Barnes and Jalen Suggs (all top 5 picks combined) - 5.

Case closed.
Verdict: due injuries, Suggs struggles, Isaac doing everything but basketball, Fultz nursing injury, no depth, no talent, Franz Wanger has been given golden opportunity to lead all rookies in shot attemps, by wide margin.
He took that opportunity and shines through, good for him. But it's not hard to understand context. If Orlando has any more talent, his shots would be reduced by a lot. If Franz is on Warriors, he would be 12-14 min bench player. If Kuminga is on Magic, he would be 35 min , probably 12-14 ppg player too. That's how basketball works.

but that increase of Franz shots coincides with starts for Orlando being out. If Barnes was playing without FVV, GJT, Siakam, he would be putting up more shots per game also. everything has context

[MagicStarwipe]

I'm pretty sure Franz has taken more shots than Barnes because he's a better shooter from 3.

[Skybox]

I'm pretty sure Franz has taken more shots than Barnes because he's a better shooter from 3.

I'd say he's a better shooter from anywhere...no knock on Barnes as a total player-but shooting is no contest (even though they both had similar concerns about shooting coming out). I don't see any reason to compare Barnes/Franz - TOR didn't pick Barnes where they were supposed to take Franz. It was supposed to be Suggs. Franz is the best pick (considering draft position/options) in the draft - we need to celebrate that our FO saw what others didn't or got lucky. In either case, they nailed it with Franz - all credit to them for choosing a very real ROY contender at #8. They f**ing nailed it- it's fun to rag on their mistakes, but they nailed this.

[The Effect]

cant tell me we couldnt have had a use for Herb Jones on this team with a 2nd round pick. 23 yr old senior, was SEC Defensive POY and SEC POY, humble and hard worker. Does all the dirty work with zero ego. one of those guys who can actually guard any position.

Herb
Ayo Dosunmu
Brandon Boston
Trey McBride
Jared Butler

All could of found quality, cheap, PT for us this year, but as usual WeHam punted on a chance to add a good young player for the cheap, and instead choose to fill the bench with guys like Iggy, Mo and Moore (who hasnt played a game), just like every year when they sell off guys like Talen Horton Tucker and Jordan Nwora

[Skybox]

cant tell me we couldnt have had a use for Herb Jones on this team with a 2nd round pick. 23 yr old senior, was SEC Defensive POY and SEC POY, humble and hard worker. Does all the dirty work with zero ego. one of those guys who can actually guard any position.

Herb
Ayo Dosunmu
Brandon Boston
Trey McBride
Jared Butler

All could of found quality, cheap, PT for us this year, but as usual WeHam punted on a chance to add a good young player for the cheap, and instead choose to fill the bench with guys like Iggy, Mo and Moore (who hasnt played a game), just like every year when they sell off guys like Talen Horton Tucker and Jordan Nwora

Second round picks do not have guaranteed contracts, you can ship them to Lakeland or home...WHY do we punt on these? Serious question. Did we get any meaningful value back? I was definitely looking at Boston and Butler. I get that we don't want 12 children on the roster, but what's the downside of trying them out?

[zaymon]

cant tell me we couldnt have had a use for Herb Jones on this team with a 2nd round pick. 23 yr old senior, was SEC Defensive POY and SEC POY, humble and hard worker. Does all the dirty work with zero ego. one of those guys who can actually guard any position.

Herb
Ayo Dosunmu
Brandon Boston
Trey McBride
Jared Butler

All could of found quality, cheap, PT for us this year, but as usual WeHam punted on a chance to add a good young player for the cheap, and instead choose to fill the bench with guys like Iggy, Mo and Moore (who hasnt played a game), just like every year when they sell off guys like Talen Horton Tucker and Jordan Nwora

Second round picks do not have guaranteed contracts, you can ship them to Lakeland or home...WHY do we punt on these? Serious question. Did we get any meaningful value back? I was definitely looking at Boston and Butler. I get that we don't want 12 children on the roster, but what's the downside of trying them out?

You can have different opinion about that strategy but reasons are very simple. Almost all second round picks fail thats a fact, so we trade them for future picks to preserve assets while using roster space for older prospects who still hold some promise or undrafted players who often become better and doesnt cost any assets.

[tiderulz]

Herb
Ayo Dosunmu
Brandon Boston
Trey McBride
Jared Butler

All could of found quality, cheap, PT for us this year, but as usual WeHam punted on a chance to add a good young player for the cheap, and instead choose to fill the bench with guys like Iggy, Mo and Moore (who hasnt played a game), just like every year when they sell off guys like Talen Horton Tucker and Jordan Nwora

Second round picks do not have guaranteed contracts, you can ship them to Lakeland or home...WHY do we punt on these? Serious question. Did we get any meaningful value back? I was definitely looking at Boston and Butler. I get that we don't want 12 children on the roster, but what's the downside of trying them out?

You can have different opinion about that strategy but reasons are very simple. Almost all second round picks fail thats a fact, so we trade them for future picks to preserve assets while using roster space for older prospects who still hold some promise or undrafted players who often become better and doesnt cost any assets.

sorry, gotta call BS on this. more 2nd round picks become better than undrafted players

[zaymon]

Second round picks do not have guaranteed contracts, you can ship them to Lakeland or home...WHY do we punt on these? Serious question. Did we get any meaningful value back? I was definitely looking at Boston and Butler. I get that we don't want 12 children on the roster, but what's the downside of trying them out?

You can have different opinion about that strategy but reasons are very simple. Almost all second round picks fail thats a fact, so we trade them for future picks to preserve assets while using roster space for older prospects who still hold some promise or undrafted players who often become better and doesnt cost any assets.

sorry, gotta call BS on this. more 2nd round picks become better than undrafted players

I didnt wrote more undrafted players become better. I wrote that it happens often and its tottaly different thing. We can disagree on often but thats subjective, just look at 2020 undrafted list

[pepe1991]

This is so goofy and out of context.

It's not "partially because he's played a few more games" -- it's entirely because of that. And 8 more games than Barnes and 9 more games than Mobley isn't a "few" games either. It's 10% of the season.

Wagner takes 13.1 shots per game. Barnes takes 12.7 shots per game. Literally a 0.4 shots per game difference.

Wagner has played 35 games. Barnes has played 27.

If you added 8 games to Barnes' season that 126 shot gap Franz has on him would magically become just a 15 shot gap.

Mobley does take fewer shots than Franz and Barnes at 11.5 per game, but that's to be expected because offensively he's a big and not a ball handling big wing like the other two. But either way, normalize Mobley to the same amount of games played as Franz and that 161 shot gap magically becomes a 57 shot gap.

Evan Mobley took 299 shots in 26 games.
Franz Wagner took 473 shots in 36 games.

That's 174 shots gap over 10 games. In order to evan up amount of shots, Mobley would have to take 17,4 shots a game.
How many times Mobley took over 17 shots a game in first 26 games? Zero. *late edit, took 20 shots tonight*

Scottie Barnes took 344 shots over 27 games. 129 shots gap over 9 games. 14,3 shots a game to close a gap. How many times Scotty took 15 shots a game in nba? 7 in 27 games. So probability of that outcome is 26% per meeting. Witch means that, even if Scotty played as many games as Wagner did, he would still fall below Franz in shot attemps.

Only goofy and out of contest is being subjective to the point where 5th grade math is failing you.
Franz takes most shots per game than any rookie not named Cade, including Jalen Green who is being called "chucker" for it. Only objective difference is that Franz's is bit closer to league's average efficiency (54% vs 52% TS) .

Franz Wagner took at least 20 shots - 4 times.
Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie Barnes and Jalen Suggs (all top 5 picks combined) - 5.

Case closed.
Verdict: due injuries, Suggs struggles, Isaac doing everything but basketball, Fultz nursing injury, no depth, no talent, Franz Wanger has been given golden opportunity to lead all rookies in shot attemps, by wide margin.

There’s a stat you can look up on any basketball website called field goal attempts per game.

Wagner takes 13.1 FG per game. Barnes takes 12.7.

Normalize the two of them to the same amount of games played and Wagner’s taken all of 15 more shots total for the season. 457 for Barnes to 472 for Wagner.

Wagner is not leading all rookies in shot attempts PER GAME by a wide margin. He leads in total shots because hasn’t gotten hurt or gotten COVID (yet) and so he’s just played a lot more games than everyone else.

This isn’t some whacky concept to grasp.

Wagner is not leading all rookies in shot attempts PER GAME by a wide margin. He leads in total shots because hasn’t gotten hurt or gotten COVID (yet) and so he’s just played a lot more games than everyone else.

He is literally second, only behind Cade in FGA taken per game.


Matter of fact, among 60 players drafted, only 8 rookies even take 10 shots a game

btw where execlly i said anything about SHOTS A GAME? I said he has taken 100 shots more than any other rookie. Objective fact. Duerte played 3 games less and is 85 shots behind. Or your argument will be that he can close gap by shooting 29 shots a game in next three

My point was simple, obvious and objective fact. He is one of 8 rookies with green light to shoot, without any leash, without any control. Credit to him that he plays more within offense than some others would do with that licence ( wink wink Suggs ) and is effective. But Magic gave him opportunity 99% of rookies don't have. And snarky comments how he is excellent compared to Moody or Kuminga have no legs. Franz on Warriors would be 10 min a game guy. And Kuminga or any other rookie drafted by Magic would probably shoot himself into 10-13 points a game and some box score numbers that would look better than they are.

[Knightro]

btw where execlly i said anything about SHOTS A GAME? I said he has taken 100 shots more than any other rookie. Objective fact. Duerte played 3 games less and is 85 shots behind. Or your argument will be that he can close gap by shooting 29 shots a game in next three

My point was simple, obvious and objective fact. He is one of 8 rookies with green light to shoot, without any leash, without any control. Credit to him that he plays more within offense than some others would do with that licence ( wink wink Suggs ) and is effective. But Magic gave him opportunity 99% of rookies don't have. And snarky comments how he is excellent compared to Moody or Kuminga have no legs. Franz on Warriors would be 10 min a game guy. And Kuminga or any other rookie drafted by Magic would probably shoot himself into 10-13 points a game and some box score numbers that would look better than they are.

I just can't with you sometimes

Your original post said...

Franz Wagner took most shots by a rookie this year. Matter of fact he took 78 shots more than second player with most shots.
He took 161 shot more than Evan Mobley for example. 126 shots more than Barnes.

Partially this comes from fact he played few games more than them.

All I pushed back on was this idea that it was "partially" explained by Franz playing "a few more games" than other rookies.

When one guy is taking 13.1 shots per game (Franz) and another guy is taking 12.8 shots per game (Green) and another guy is taking 12.7 shots per game (Barnes), the "126 more shots than Barnes" point you thought was so clever is quite literally ENTIRELY EXPLAINED by the gap they have in games played. Not for any other reason.

Franz doesn't have more of a green light than any of the other rookies who are playing big minutes.

[basketballRob]

Franz on the Warriors would have a more effective PG, more open looks, and a wide-open lane. I think he'd bump Porter Jr. and Iguadola from the rotation.

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[pepe1991]

btw where execlly i said anything about SHOTS A GAME? I said he has taken 100 shots more than any other rookie. Objective fact. Duerte played 3 games less and is 85 shots behind. Or your argument will be that he can close gap by shooting 29 shots a game in next three

My point was simple, obvious and objective fact. He is one of 8 rookies with green light to shoot, without any leash, without any control. Credit to him that he plays more within offense than some others would do with that licence ( wink wink Suggs ) and is effective. But Magic gave him opportunity 99% of rookies don't have. And snarky comments how he is excellent compared to Moody or Kuminga have no legs. Franz on Warriors would be 10 min a game guy. And Kuminga or any other rookie drafted by Magic would probably shoot himself into 10-13 points a game and some box score numbers that would look better than they are.

I just can't with you sometimes

Your original post said...

Franz Wagner took most shots by a rookie this year. Matter of fact he took 78 shots more than second player with most shots.
He took 161 shot more than Evan Mobley for example. 126 shots more than Barnes.

Partially this comes from fact he played few games more than them.

All I pushed back on was this idea that it was "partially" explained by Franz playing "a few more games" than other rookies.

When one guy is taking 13.1 shots per game (Franz) and another guy is taking 12.8 shots per game (Green) and another guy is taking 12.7 shots per game (Barnes), the "126 more shots than Barnes" point you thought was so clever is quite literally ENTIRELY EXPLAINED by the gap they have in games played. Not for any other reason.

Franz doesn't have more of a green light than any of the other rookies who are playing big minutes.

I L O V E how i talk about Barnes AND MOBLEY but you toss in Green and ignore Mobley because it doesn't fit narrative you try to shift. Franz Wagner leads all rookies in shots taken TOTAL and is second in shots taken per game. Facts. You argue semantic. 0,4 shots or 0,001 shot per game more still doesn't change fact he takes more shots than Barnes.
Evan Mobley 11,8 shots a game = 977 shots a season , if he plays 82 games
Franz Wagner 13,1 shot a game, over hypotetical 82 games = 1074 shots
Scottie Barnes 12,7 shots a game, over hypotetical 82 games = 1041 shot.

33 shots 97 shots, over whole season is actually big difference. 33 shots difference is gap player with FGA of Barnes covers in 3 games. So Franz shooting "just 0,4 more" isn't as small gap as it looks.

btw tnx for qouting me. Franz took most shots by rookie. Partically because he played most games by rookie, partially because he is second among rookies in shot taken, behind another rookie who is on only team worst than Orlando. That's my point all along.

[Knightro]

I L O V E how i talk about Barnes AND MOBLEY but you toss in Green and ignore Mobley because it doesn't fit narrative you try to shift. Franz Wagner leads all rookies in shots taken TOTAL and is second in shots taken per game. Facts. You argue semantic. 0,4 shots or 0,001 shot per game more still doesn't change fact he takes more shots than Barnes.
Evan Mobley 11,8 shots a game = 977 shots a season , if he plays 82 games
Franz Wagner 13,1 shot a game, over hypotetical 82 games = 1074 shots
Scottie Barnes 12,7 shots a game, over hypotetical 82 games = 1041 shot.

33 shots 97 shots, over whole season is actually big difference. 33 shots difference is gap player with FGA of Barnes covers in 3 games. So Franz shooting "just 0,4 more" isn't as small gap as it looks.

btw tnx for qouting me. Franz took most shots by rookie. Partically because he played most games by rookie, partially because he is second among rookies in shot taken, behind another rookie who is on only team worst than Orlando. That's my point all along.

If you really think 33 more shot attempts over 82 games is a significant gap then I think we can end this silly discussion right here because that's a near negligible difference in total shots.

[zaymon]

Its first day of the year and pepe in prime shape already.

[jezzerinho]

It's complete fabrication that 99% of rookies don't get a similar green light. Plenty do. The difference is that Franz, among a select few, actually do something efficient with that opportunity. Plenty don't and get reined in or their minutes cut or their role changed.

Franz doesn't because a) he's being efficient and b) there's nobody else to be that guy.

There's a big pressure to being basically the only guy who can score in volume . A lot of rookies would crumble under the weight or would become inefficient chuckers.

It's a huge credit to Franz that not only is he efficient but he's happy in the role as lead offensive producer, at his tender age and so new to the pro game.

Some want to pitch that as a luxury Franz has been bestowed. In reality it's a huge responsibility and a burden, which some can bear (like Franz) and others can't.

[The Real Dalic]

btw where execlly i said anything about SHOTS A GAME? I said he has taken 100 shots more than any other rookie. Objective fact. Duerte played 3 games less and is 85 shots behind. Or your argument will be that he can close gap by shooting 29 shots a game in next three

My point was simple, obvious and objective fact. He is one of 8 rookies with green light to shoot, without any leash, without any control. Credit to him that he plays more within offense than some others would do with that licence ( wink wink Suggs ) and is effective. But Magic gave him opportunity 99% of rookies don't have. And snarky comments how he is excellent compared to Moody or Kuminga have no legs. Franz on Warriors would be 10 min a game guy. And Kuminga or any other rookie drafted by Magic would probably shoot himself into 10-13 points a game and some box score numbers that would look better than they are.

I just can't with you sometimes

Your original post said...

Franz Wagner took most shots by a rookie this year. Matter of fact he took 78 shots more than second player with most shots.
He took 161 shot more than Evan Mobley for example. 126 shots more than Barnes.

Partially this comes from fact he played few games more than them.

All I pushed back on was this idea that it was "partially" explained by Franz playing "a few more games" than other rookies.

When one guy is taking 13.1 shots per game (Franz) and another guy is taking 12.8 shots per game (Green) and another guy is taking 12.7 shots per game (Barnes), the "126 more shots than Barnes" point you thought was so clever is quite literally ENTIRELY EXPLAINED by the gap they have in games played. Not for any other reason.

Franz doesn't have more of a green light than any of the other rookies who are playing big minutes.

To add to this, even if he did get more shots because the team sucks and is injured, it still doesn't matter. What matters is what he does with those attempts. It also shows that the team and coach trusts him with those shots. I'm not sure how it can be implied to be a negative in any way.

[Ducklett]

btw where execlly i said anything about SHOTS A GAME? I said he has taken 100 shots more than any other rookie. Objective fact. Duerte played 3 games less and is 85 shots behind. Or your argument will be that he can close gap by shooting 29 shots a game in next three

My point was simple, obvious and objective fact. He is one of 8 rookies with green light to shoot, without any leash, without any control. Credit to him that he plays more within offense than some others would do with that licence ( wink wink Suggs ) and is effective. But Magic gave him opportunity 99% of rookies don't have. And snarky comments how he is excellent compared to Moody or Kuminga have no legs. Franz on Warriors would be 10 min a game guy. And Kuminga or any other rookie drafted by Magic would probably shoot himself into 10-13 points a game and some box score numbers that would look better than they are.

I just can't with you sometimes

Your original post said...

Franz Wagner took most shots by a rookie this year. Matter of fact he took 78 shots more than second player with most shots.
He took 161 shot more than Evan Mobley for example. 126 shots more than Barnes.

Partially this comes from fact he played few games more than them.

All I pushed back on was this idea that it was "partially" explained by Franz playing "a few more games" than other rookies.

When one guy is taking 13.1 shots per game (Franz) and another guy is taking 12.8 shots per game (Green) and another guy is taking 12.7 shots per game (Barnes), the "126 more shots than Barnes" point you thought was so clever is quite literally ENTIRELY EXPLAINED by the gap they have in games played. Not for any other reason.

Franz doesn't have more of a green light than any of the other rookies who are playing big minutes.

To add to this, even if he did get more shots because the team sucks and is injured, it still doesn't matter. What matters is what he does with those attempts. It also shows that the team and coach trusts him with those shots. I'm not sure how it can be implied to be a negative in any way.

This is Pepe you are talking about my friend. To Pepe everything is negative!

[OrlandO]

Franz is taking like 16 shots per game in the last 15 games. He clearly has a green light due to various issues plaguing the team. Who cares.