Jaqua92 wrote:16% of people unvaccinated per 100,000 cases are hospitalized? That's wild.exculpatory wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:
Thanks for posting this, Cave!
Overwhelming data added to the mega-mega-mega-Mega-Overwhelming data which already has accrued in countless peer reviewed publications during the last year.
The vaccines in general have been beyond incredibly successful - literally mindblowingly successful - at least 1 million more Americans are not dead today because of them.
So so so so awful that the willfully, despicably & irresponsibly ignorant unvaccinated (as the primary spreaders & the reason Delta, Omicron & future variants have developed & will develop, respectively) are the primary reasons that more than 800,000 Americans are, in fact, dead today (& are still dying).
People like you, Thom, SD, myself & multiple others (w perhaps varied opinions on some other matters) are as one on Covid. This is ONLY about the public health & the best medicine possible - & NOT A **** POWER GRAB. It is so so so so sad & profoundly tragic that our country has tens of millions of anti-science abject morons. This was in large part preventable had even ~80% of the country double vaxxed during the first half of 2021 & boosted during the second half of 2021 (VS the approximately 60% & 30%, respectively, who did), & the many millions of infected survivors had received even ONE F/U vaccination.
God bless us in 2022.
Ex, question for you. Would people who have developed natural immunity from the original covid be immune to this variant.
My fiance thinks she had COVID in February of 2020, right before things got crazy. Didn't get tested because it was before it became a thing. She had all of the classic symptoms.
Since then, she's been exposed at work. Exposed to people who have tested positive, family, etc. Now, she was exposed to me for quite a few days before I became symptomatic, etc. And she still has never tested positive.
Is she just lucky? Or is there a possibility she may have had it at some point?
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I don't have ex's technical expertise, but I can tell you the answer is that case by case is difficult to give you a definite answer. Your wife's chances of not getting it at all is non-zero. However small the chances are, it is possible for her to never had contracted it. Now, the fact that you said she had all the classic symptoms (if you define them, it would be better), she probably had it since those symptoms are unique in respect to the diseases we usually face.
The spike protein that's been talked about so much with Covid has become much different with Omicron. Hence why it is more infectious. There's nothing to suggest that a previous infection of an earlier strain would specifically protect one from this more infectious variant.
Previous infection is not better than the vaccine in either category of preventing reinfection or reducing severity. The combination of previous infection and full vaccination has been observed as better than either alone.
We still don't understand why this strange phenomenon of people living under the same roof are infected while others do not.
We still don't have many large scale studies to be conclusive though and making assumptions such as natural immunity improving one's evasion to omicron is foolish.
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