2023 College Football Discussion

[PintSizedBox10]

I think the Badgers could've mustered more than 6 points against Bama. It's well past time to extend the playoff.

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[coolhandluke121]

I think the Badgers could've mustered more than 6 points against Bama. It's well past time to extend the playoff.

Counterpoint: that might just mean more crappy games. There have been way too many blowouts in the CFP, and despite the high stakes, they still have the feel of a typical bowl game. We don't have NFL prospects sitting these games out (yet) the way they do with some bowl games, but they still have a weird "the real season already ended but let's play another game for the alumni on holiday" vibe. Coaching changes are already well underway before the playoffs even begin, and recruiting eats into practice time. The long layoff means you have no idea what you're going to get from any given team, regardless of how they played all year. The lack of campus atmosphere changes the scene completely. It's almost an afterthought compared to rivalry weeks and conference championships. I still think conference championships are much more compelling and I don't share the obsession with crowning a true champion at all. Or, more accurately, pretending that an expanded playoffs would crown a true champion. I think the entire regular season has a playoff urgency, and I think every team effectively DID have a chance to play for the national championship. College football is one of the few sports that still has that magic in the regular season, and I don't think they should mess with it.

[MickeyDavis]

There's no downside to expanded playoffs. Could 1/8, 2/7 be blowouts? Of course. So what? We had 2 blowouts last night. But you'd have a couple of extra bowl games with at least some meaning. This afternoon we have Fiesta and Sugar Bowls that are 100% meaningless. There is no downside to expanded playoffs.

[coolhandluke121]

There's no downside to expanded playoffs. Could 1/8, 2/7 be blowouts? Of course. So what? We had 2 blowouts last night. But you'd have a couple of extra bowl games with at least some meaning. This afternoon we have Fiesta and Sugar Bowls that are 100% meaningless. There is no downside to expanded playoffs.

Giving 4 or 5 teams that don't deserve a shot at the national title based on their regular season resume is a huge downside in my book. All that matters is giving the two teams with the best resume a chance to compete for the title, and since sometimes 3 or 4 teams can make a case, 4 is the right number, but I don't think there's ever been a time where the #5 team could make a case that they had a top-2 resume. I want the regular season to continue to have playoff urgency, and letting 2-3 loss teams like Texas A&M play for the title would diminish that. I wouldn't even consider them the true champion if they had a fluke win over an undefeated Power 5 team in the title game if that happened. The regular season already is a tournament. It's good the way it is.

I don't think the other bowls are meaningless at all. That's an optional mentality and the national title obsession is a media fabrication. Heck, the national championship itself was nothing but a media creation for about a century. I never cared one iota less about the Badgers competing for Big Ten titles or Rose Bowl championships just because they weren't national title contenders, and I'm not one iota more interested in CFP games just because they're "national championship" games when there were already 2 or 3 bowl games with national championship implications before the CFP (and BCS games for that matter) even existed.

[ReasonablySober]

The downside is the players play in extra games that ultimately mean nothing. Bama and Georgia were the two best teams this season. Thankfully it didn't happen, but Nakobe Dean or Jordan Davis getting hurt last night in a game that meant nothing would have been terrible.

[coolhandluke121]

The downside is the players play in extra games that ultimately mean nothing. Bama and Georgia were the two best teams this season. Thankfully it didn't happen, but Nakobe Dean or Jordan Davis getting hurt last night in a game that meant nothing would have been terrible.

That too. They've already piled on enough games. Football is nothing like basketball. Even one game a week is a bit much if you don't have a few bye weeks. It's just not a tournament-style game.

[MikeIsGood]

I do favor an 8 team playoff, but agree with the games played concern. I favor getting rid of a bull game from NC schedules. I know it wouldn't happen, though - we all know damn well they're just going to add another week of games if they do it.

Eight teams is such a great sweet spot, though. Each P5 conference champion (5), something like top G5 team if in the top 15 (1), and then at-larges as is measured today (2 or 3). It doesn't make it perfect - it never will be - but having each conference champion in is such a big improvement IMO.

[coolhandluke121]

I just think it would be such bull for a team like Georgia to have to play Utah in the first round and risk some major injury that could prevent the Bama-Georgia rematch college football deserves. Georgia already proved they deserve to skip the second tier teams and compete with the very best. If anything, the number of blowouts in semi-final games proves that there are rarely even 4 teams that should be competing for a national championship, but I accept 4 because you don't always have a clear top 2 and you need a power of 2 for a mini-tourney. In years where there is a clear top 2, I would even advocate skipping the semi-finals, which should only be necessary when 3 or 4 teams have a case for being top 2.

[RubberSoul]

I like the idea of top 6 get in and top 2 get a bye. Top 2 teams should be rewarded by not having to play a third game against unworthy teams.


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[ReginaldDwight]

Yeah dont need expanded playoffs, do we really need more blowouts in the non championship games. I think theres been one or two that havent been complete blowouts.

[ReginaldDwight]

Rose Bowl been fun so far.

[PintSizedBox10]

This is wild

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[MikeIsGood]

The Rose Bowl is absolutely **** wild. Turn it on if you don't have it on already. In the past 3 minutes of game time, there's 5 TDs including a kickoff return. OSU's past 3 pass completions are TDs. There are two targeting ejections, someone was carted off the field (those aren't good things, of course, it's just adding to everything happening). Seriously wild.

[PintSizedBox10]

This is amazing

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[coolhandluke121]

Bucket of ass play of the day right there. Leon Lett would be proud.

[MikeIsGood]

Fencer's response immediately after he hit his head - absolutely a concussion.

[MikeIsGood]

Smith-Njigba is having an all-time game tonight. 13/326/3 TDs.

[ReginaldDwight]

Quality game no way the sugar bowl lives up to this one.

[Mags FTW]

Freshman walk-on thrust into action in the Rose Bowl throwing better balls than Mertz.

[ReasonablySober]

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