Options to fix the PF hole

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Wood is attainable with the how Coby/Ayo/whatever other assets we’d consider moving. But I’m not sold on him being the right fit. He’s more offense than defense and he also seems like a bit of a cry baby.

Didn’t like how he looked when we played Houston either, and rocket fans don’t seem to love him

We aren’t moving Ayo

Oh we’ll see. We don’t have as many assets as you think we do

[terry]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Wood is attainable with the how Coby/Ayo/whatever other assets we’d consider moving. But I’m not sold on him being the right fit. He’s more offense than defense and he also seems like a bit of a cry baby.

Didn’t like how he looked when we played Houston either, and rocket fans don’t seem to love him

We aren’t moving Ayo

Oh we’ll see. We don’t have as many assets as you think we do

They’re not moving Ayo

[nomorezorro]

a second round pick who’s at the end of the rotation and is due a new contract after next season might get traded, guys

[Michael Jackson]

Wood seems to have some issues. Not sure I want him. not just this incident but he has attitude problems. Seems more like a GarPax kinda guy all Jabari

[Bulls2021]

Warming up to Jerami Grant more, especially with the Denver connection and some positive reports out of DET.

Pat, DJJ, Troy Brown Jr (inserting him instead of Coby) plus a 1st... is that enough for Detroit?

Might not even need a 1st, who knows. Pat and DJJ are enough salary to make it work I believe. DDJ actually has value too. Might be able to get a 3rd team involved if Detroit wants him flipped.

[Bulls2021]

We aren’t moving Ayo

Oh we’ll see. We don’t have as many assets as you think we do

They’re not moving Ayo

You don't know this. I think it's unlikely they trade him too, but you can't definitively say they won't trade him. If the right deal comes up they're not going to hold on to Ayo

[StunnerKO]

better off going after TJ Warren and Torrey Craig trade package, Pat isn’t getting moved and Coby to get paid soon prob increases Ayo chances of staying here . Don’t think Pat or Ayo getting moved for a Barnes , Grant or Wood

[VolumePoster]

Oh we’ll see. We don’t have as many assets as you think we do

They’re not moving Ayo

You don't know this. I think it's unlikely they trade him too, but you can't definitively say they won't trade him. If the right deal comes up they're not going to hold on to Ayo

I love Ayo. But he might have more value than Coby right now, and I would argue that cobys skill set compliments our needs better than ayo, who partially duplicates the skills of Lonzo and AC.

Love Ayo. But also have the sense we're being swayed a bit by our emotions. Understandable but not advisable.

We have a window here. If Ayo helps you get a big upgrade at 4 you do it instantly.

[VolumePoster]

They not moving Pat or Ayo , better off going after TJ Warren and Torrey Craig trade package

Both good possibilities.

[Bulls2021]

They not moving Pat or Ayo , better off going after TJ Warren and Torrey Craig trade package

Both good possibilities.

Well, StunnerKO says they aren't moving Ayo and Pat. That's that. Guess we should stop putting them in trade ideas. They 100% won't be moved in a trade.

[LateNight]

Ayo *shouldnt* be moved in a trade.

[fleet]

Wood seems to have some issues. Not sure I want him. not just this incident but he has attitude problems. Seems more like a GarPax kinda guy all Jabari

Whoever significant guy they get in a trade is either gonna be an overpay (i.e. Grant, Siakam), or some discount guy with issues becoming available (perhaps Wood). If the Bulls can manage those issues, that is the question. I’m not sure any us can reasonably know the answer to whether or not they can. Part of me wants the issues guy, because I wouldn’t want to part with a more significant asset to acquire a guy that might be a short term fix, or a downgrade in upside from what Pat can be. As down as I am on him, I am not ready to give up all the way. So I will take the issues guy, or just a nominal acquisition to play needed minutes. Not that high on going for a full priced Cadillac

[OldSchoolNoBull]

a second round pick who’s at the end of the rotation and is due a new contract after next season might get traded, guys

They’re not moving Ayo

You don't know this. I think it's unlikely they trade him too, but you can't definitively say they won't trade him. If the right deal comes up they're not going to hold on to Ayo

I love Ayo. But he might have more value than Coby right now, and I would argue that cobys skill set compliments our needs better than ayo, who partially duplicates the skills of Lonzo and AC.

Love Ayo. But also have the sense we're being swayed a bit by our emotions. Understandable but not advisable.

We have a window here. If Ayo helps you get a big upgrade at 4 you do it instantly.

I am against moving Ayo. Unless it's part of a package for an elite player. As good of an addition as Grant or Barnes or someone like that would be, they're not 'elite' talent. When a player is showing as many good signs as Ayo has on such a cheap deal, you don't undervalue him. He's got championship-level role player written all over him imo.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

TBJ/Simonic and Portland 1st for Kleber, who is a good defender and can play the small ball 5. Good defender/rebounder and shooting 37% from 3 on 4 attempts per game.

[petebraun0]

I wonder what it would take to pry Precious Achiewa or Khem Birch from Toronto? Would the Raptors part with a power forward for a guard? Precious has an amazing motor, can be a rebounding monster, and can play good defense, and block shots. however, he is very raw. Would they accept Coby for Precious. He is also able to defend three positions: 3 4 and 5. He'd be good. I am not as familiar with Khem Birch, but he also seems to have good size. I think he plays well against us, if I recall. any thoughts?

[Michael Jackson]

I wonder what it would take to pry Precious Achiewa or Khem Birch from Toronto? Would the Raptors part with a power forward for a guard? Precious has an amazing motor, can be a rebounding monster, and can play good defense, and block shots. however, he is very raw. Would they accept Coby for Precious. He is also able to defend three positions: 3 4 and 5. He'd be good. I am not as familiar with Khem Birch, but he also seems to have good size. I think he plays well against us, if I recall. any thoughts?

they love him apparently though so I don't think they will give him up

[SalmonsSuperfan]

Wood seems to have some issues. Not sure I want him. not just this incident but he has attitude problems. Seems more like a GarPax kinda guy all Jabari

my thinking is that garpax valued 'character' above pretty much anything else. jabari was a choir boy (literally) minus the whole "they don't pay me to play defense" which is objectively true but something you're not supposed to say. bobby portis seems like a better example of a bad attitude player that garpax bet on. to this day i can't comprehend why they picked him over mirotic irrespective of his violent outburst.

i don't like the fit of wood from a b-ball perspective but one knucklehead isn't going to spoil the bunch. very different situation than what's going on in houston.

[dabig3]

a second round pick who’s at the end of the rotation and is due a new contract after next season might get traded, guys

You don't know this. I think it's unlikely they trade him too, but you can't definitively say they won't trade him. If the right deal comes up they're not going to hold on to Ayo

I love Ayo. But he might have more value than Coby right now, and I would argue that cobys skill set compliments our needs better than ayo, who partially duplicates the skills of Lonzo and AC.

Love Ayo. But also have the sense we're being swayed a bit by our emotions. Understandable but not advisable.

We have a window here. If Ayo helps you get a big upgrade at 4 you do it instantly.

I am against moving Ayo. Unless it's part of a package for an elite player. As good of an addition as Grant or Barnes or someone like that would be, they're not 'elite' talent. When a player is showing as many good signs as Ayo has on such a cheap deal, you don't undervalue him. He's got championship-level role player written all over him imo.

Agreed. And it's no mistake the team is utilizing him like they would in the playoffs - as another Caruso. They put him right back in the game with 5 fouls in crunch time. That would be Lonzo/Caruso on the court in healthier days, but the playoffs is where you want as many Lonzo/Carusos as you can get. There's just way too much talent on the wings these days.

And I don't think there's any way that Coby is going to be on this team after Zach gets his (super)max deal. If Coby is on the team next season, Bulls are going to be in another Gaffords situation where a guy is good but they're just not going to pay that next contract. And we'll get to enjoy another offseason and then half a season of Coby trade talks. Fun!

I rather skip the drama and consolidate Coby's rising talent right now for that 4 upgrade. At least there's a chance Bulls will keep Ayo beyond next season. That is not happening with Coby unless Zach plain ditches us in the offseason.

[Wingy]

Warming up to Jerami Grant more, especially with the Denver connection and some positive reports out of DET.

Pat, DJJ, Troy Brown Jr (inserting him instead of Coby) plus a 1st... is that enough for Detroit?

Might not even need a 1st, who knows. Pat and DJJ are enough salary to make it work I believe. DDJ actually has value too. Might be able to get a 3rd team involved if Detroit wants him flipped.

I’d be up for giving a first (Portland) instead of DJJ. We need depth to compete against KD/Giannis. His athletic finishes and shot blocking (plus occasional corner 3) can be game changers that fire up the team/crowd.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

We aren’t moving Ayo

Oh we’ll see. We don’t have as many assets as you think we do

They’re not moving Ayo

Man, some of you guys are annoying. You don’t know any more than the rest of us. Don’t be a homer and already label Ayo as untouchable just because he’s looked great as a 2nd round pick. Sure, it’s unlikely - but for the right deal? Obviously his ass would get traded. The hell are you talking about.