Trade Deadline thread: Nada... Nothing... Zip... WTF

[Eric Bieniemy]

Rob needs to just trade Westbrook.

Much easier typed than done. Any suggestions?

[stan francisco]

Rob needs to just trade Westbrook.

Much easier typed than done. Any suggestions?

A bag of chips, a towel, a sixpack of Gatorade is fine with me.

It’s better he doesn’t play at all because our defense will never be good enough to win it with him in our SL. Addition by subtraction. Trade him for picks and a few expiring dead weight contracts, so we can change course.

Or, and I never thought I’d say it, we might as well tank the rest of the season because we won’t win with him in our SL. No team will. That time has passed.

Defense, Russell. Defense! And that won’t happen.

Frank needs to grow a pair and play him as 6th man off the bench.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Rob needs to just trade Westbrook.

Much easier typed than done. Any suggestions?

A bag of chips, a towel, a sixpack of Gatorade is fine with me.

It’s better he doesn’t play at all because our defense will never be good enough to win it with him in our SL. Addition by subtraction. Trade him for picks and a few expiring dead weight contracts, so we can change course.

Or, and I never thought I’d say it, we might as well tank the rest of the season because we won’t win with him in our SL. No team will. That time has passed.

Defense, Russell. Defense! And that won’t happen.

Frank needs to grow a pair and play him as 6th man off the bench.

Tanking or trading him for expirings won't happen. Nobody wants Westbrook.

The only solution other than riding this thing out is to simply send him home.

I prefer riding it out but reducung his minutes. He doesn't have to be benched, vbut he almost assuredly needs to be relegated to role-player minutes. Nunn, Monk Reaves, Melo, and (cough) Valentine may all get more minutes than Westbrook. All the aforementioned players have games tailor made to compliment Oldman James. This is true of Davis too. Because James seems to now prefer less ball handling duties and is thriving at center, maybe Davis gets relegated to role-playing minutes as well. I mentioned in another thread, maybe they should platoon these two until they get better and let the Nunns, Monks, Reaves', Melos, and (cough) Valentines, all the natural compliments to James, rock out.

[Kilroy]

The only possible trade for Westbrook is for John Wall... So use that as context when discussing a Westbrook trade...

Other than that, maybe Kevin Love and a player who most likely sucks...

Only other remote possibility would be if the Nets freaked out and decided they needed to dump Kyrie before the playoffs, but that's a super long shot...

So basically, it's how much better would we be with John Wall instead of Westbrook? Honestly, I'd say that might actually make us worse.

[zimpy27]

The only possible trade for Westbrook is for John Wall... So use that as context when discussing a Westbrook trade...

Other than that, maybe Kevin Love and a player who most likely sucks...

Only other remote possibility would be if the Nets freaked out and decided they needed to dump Kyrie before the playoffs, but that's a super long shot...

So basically, it's how much better would we be with John Wall instead of Westbrook? Honestly, I'd say that might actually make us worse.

I think Westbrook+Bazemore+Jordan for Horford+Richardson+Juancho is possible. That's the best realistic trade out there and Lakers may need to give up picks too.

Wall would be worse, Westbrook is not awful, he just needs to find his place in the team and work on defense over the rest of the season.

I feel the trade Westbrook frenzy is a bit irrational. He plays with a speed that means he needs to know his teammates movements on the floor to be efficient and he hasn't had a stable lineup in LA to do that yet.

Lakers need to focus on improve their role players

[Slava]

The only possible trade for Westbrook is for John Wall... So use that as context when discussing a Westbrook trade...

Other than that, maybe Kevin Love and a player who most likely sucks...

Only other remote possibility would be if the Nets freaked out and decided they needed to dump Kyrie before the playoffs, but that's a super long shot...

So basically, it's how much better would we be with John Wall instead of Westbrook? Honestly, I'd say that might actually make us worse.

I think Westbrook+Bazemore+Jordan for Horford+Richardson+Juancho is possible. That's the best realistic trade out there and Lakers may need to give up picks too.

Wall would be worse, Westbrook is not awful, he just needs to find his place in the team and work on defense over the rest of the season.

I feel the trade Westbrook frenzy is a bit irrational. He plays with a speed that means he needs to know his teammates movements on the floor to be efficient and he hasn't had a stable lineup in LA to do that yet.

Lakers need to focus on improve their role players

If that is on the table without sending picks, the Lakers should take it and run today. I think Richardson would thrive in Vogel's defensive system as one of the speedier small guards zipping through rotations and I'd much rather LeBron play PG rather than center if he were to play out of position.

[zimpy27]

The only possible trade for Westbrook is for John Wall... So use that as context when discussing a Westbrook trade...

Other than that, maybe Kevin Love and a player who most likely sucks...

Only other remote possibility would be if the Nets freaked out and decided they needed to dump Kyrie before the playoffs, but that's a super long shot...

So basically, it's how much better would we be with John Wall instead of Westbrook? Honestly, I'd say that might actually make us worse.

I think Westbrook+Bazemore+Jordan for Horford+Richardson+Juancho is possible. That's the best realistic trade out there and Lakers may need to give up picks too.

Wall would be worse, Westbrook is not awful, he just needs to find his place in the team and work on defense over the rest of the season.

I feel the trade Westbrook frenzy is a bit irrational. He plays with a speed that means he needs to know his teammates movements on the floor to be efficient and he hasn't had a stable lineup in LA to do that yet.

Lakers need to focus on improve their role players

If that is on the table without sending picks, the Lakers should take it and run today. I think Richardson would thrive in Vogel's defensive system as one of the speedier small guards zipping through rotations and I'd much rather LeBron play PG rather than center if he were to play out of position.

Yeah this team would be nice

PG: Nunn | Bradley
SG: J-Rich | Monk | Reaves | Ellington
SF: LeBron | THT | Johnson
PF: Davis | Ariza | Melo
C : Horford | Howard | Juancho

[Slava]

I think Westbrook+Bazemore+Jordan for Horford+Richardson+Juancho is possible. That's the best realistic trade out there and Lakers may need to give up picks too.

Wall would be worse, Westbrook is not awful, he just needs to find his place in the team and work on defense over the rest of the season.

I feel the trade Westbrook frenzy is a bit irrational. He plays with a speed that means he needs to know his teammates movements on the floor to be efficient and he hasn't had a stable lineup in LA to do that yet.

Lakers need to focus on improve their role players

If that is on the table without sending picks, the Lakers should take it and run today. I think Richardson would thrive in Vogel's defensive system as one of the speedier small guards zipping through rotations and I'd much rather LeBron play PG rather than center if he were to play out of position.

Yeah this team would be nice

PG: Nunn | Bradley
SG: J-Rich | Monk | Reaves | Ellington
SF: LeBron | THT | Johnson
PF: Davis | Ariza | Melo
C : Horford | Howard | Juancho

I'd try to see if Dallas would consider Brunson and one of their shooters on mid level contracts for THT + Nunn after that. They could do with a wing who can act as a secondary ball handler, depending on how they rate THT.

[kanersen]

Raps fan here. Throwing something out there, don't shoot me.

Spicy P
JTG
Boucher and Dragic

for AD and Westbrook.

Salaries should be close enough to get done with some spare parts.

The raptors know how to play team basketball and actually move the ball. You could actually put all those guys in your starting lienup and it'd be an upgrade

Dragic
JTG
Lebron
Spicy P
Boucher

Taking back Westbrook is a necessary evil. Hero ball doesn't work in our system and Westbrook might not either. AD though would work well with our young rook.

AD
OG
Scottie
Westbrook/Banton
FVV

[loveshaq786]

Raps fan here. Throwing something out there, don't shoot me.

Spicy P
JTG
Boucher and Dragic

for AD and Westbrook.

Salaries should be close enough to get done with some spare parts.

The raptors know how to play team basketball and actually move the ball. You could actually put all those guys in your starting lienup and it'd be an upgrade

Dragic
JTG
Lebron
Spicy P
Boucher

Taking back Westbrook is a necessary evil. Hero ball doesn't work in our system and Westbrook might not either. AD though would work well with our young rook.

AD
OG
Scottie
Westbrook/Banton
FVV

Anthony Davis will never go for that package. You might be able to squeeze tht out of our hands for taking on Westbrook.

Westbrook and tht, for dragic butcher and Gary Trent Jr

For Anthony Davis, bazemore, deandre.... it better be a package like Dragic, Gary Trent Jr, siakim, and Scottie and multiple pics

[kanersen]

Raps fan here. Throwing something out there, don't shoot me.

Spicy P
JTG
Boucher and Dragic

for AD and Westbrook.

Salaries should be close enough to get done with some spare parts.

The raptors know how to play team basketball and actually move the ball. You could actually put all those guys in your starting lienup and it'd be an upgrade

Dragic
JTG
Lebron
Spicy P
Boucher

Taking back Westbrook is a necessary evil. Hero ball doesn't work in our system and Westbrook might not either. AD though would work well with our young rook.

AD
OG
Scottie
Westbrook/Banton
FVV

Anthony Davis will never go for that package. You might be able to squeeze tht out of our hands for taking on Westbrook.

Westbrook and tht, for dragic butcher and Gary Trent Jr

For Anthony Davis, bazemore, deandre.... it better be a package like Dragic, Gary Trent Jr, siakim, and Scottie and multiple pics

I suppose we'll agree to disagree then. Toronto values Trent Jr. very high. He's a 22 year old marksman who has made immense defensive strides this year. We value him much more than THT, let alone having to take on Westbrook'.

Hope the Lake show turn it around. Not a fan of this iteration but the Lakers always have my admiration ever since Kobe drops 81 on our asses.

[One Love]

The ONLY teams that would entertain a trade for Westbrook are New York to pair with Randle, Houston for Wall or Dallas for Porzingis...

I am 100% down for a package built around Fournier (4 years at $80 million), maybe Burkes/Rose & Noel... I would throw THT into that deal to get those pieces... They have soured on Fournier and Tibbs has enough balls to pull the trigger as they are a big market team... It seems to be the ONLY viable option...

I am not sure about Porzingis but each time I watch Westbrook throw the ball off someone's head I get more excited... He can spread the floor, rebound and shoot but his defense is bad & an AD/Porzingis pairing may be tough...

Lakeshow Baby...

[Slava]

Raps fan here. Throwing something out there, don't shoot me.

Spicy P
JTG
Boucher and Dragic

for AD and Westbrook.

Salaries should be close enough to get done with some spare parts.

The raptors know how to play team basketball and actually move the ball. You could actually put all those guys in your starting lienup and it'd be an upgrade

Dragic
JTG
Lebron
Spicy P
Boucher

Taking back Westbrook is a necessary evil. Hero ball doesn't work in our system and Westbrook might not either. AD though would work well with our young rook.

AD
OG
Scottie
Westbrook/Banton
FVV

There is no path to the title without AD + LeBron. If I were to trade AD, I would expect a superstar trade return, equivalent to what we paid for him, considering he has a longer term contract now. So it starts with FVV + Barnes + multiple picks.

I'd worry about Westbrook later in a separate deal.

[Lost Angel]

when is Nunn back?

any legs to a THT for Bamba + Ross package? dont think there is a way to make the money work but could be a useful trade...is Ross 30 or older than that?

[zimpy27]

when is Nunn back?

any legs to a THT for Bamba + Ross package? dont think there is a way to make the money work but could be a useful trade...is Ross 30 or older than that?

Not enough salary going out for Ross+Bamba

Lakers can only bring in 25% more salary than they send out.

[Slava]

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[Pythagoras]

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DAJ was such a stupid signing to begin with, and now of course the cheapskate owner won’t just let him and Baze get released. They have to be traded to clear roster spots. Hopefully the buyout market has a few gems this year.

[LAL1947]

The ONLY teams that would entertain a trade for Westbrook are New York to pair with Randle, Houston for Wall or Dallas for Porzingis...

I am 100% down for a package built around Fournier (4 years at $80 million), maybe Burkes/Rose & Noel... I would throw THT into that deal to get those pieces... They have soured on Fournier and Tibbs has enough balls to pull the trigger as they are a big market team... It seems to be the ONLY viable option...

I am not sure about Porzingis but each time I watch Westbrook throw the ball off someone's head I get more excited... He can spread the floor, rebound and shoot but his defense is bad & an AD/Porzingis pairing may be tough...

Lakeshow Baby...

There is ZERO chance the Mavs entertain a Porzingis for Westbrook trade unless the Lakers add a whole bunch of assets, which the Lakers simply do not have.

[Beethoven]

Any way we can get Kuzma Caruso kcp and montrezl back?

[Freighttrain]

Any way we can get Kuzma Caruso kcp and montrezl back?

Caruso & KCP are definitely big pieces I'd want back. I don't really mind Kuzma as he was too inconsistent and not that reliable when it mattered. Montrez was only good during the regular season, but we literally couldn't play him during the postseason so I see no reason in wanting him back.