Official 2022 Draft Thread

Madhouse · Post #221 » by **Madhouse** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:38 pm

Kevin Willis · Post #222 » by **Kevin Willis** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:55 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Bennedict Mathurin is a 6'6 Donovan Mitchell

Nah, Donovan is Wade. More powerful and stocky. Iggy was more lanky and powerful, people forget how explosive he was.

Maybe Jefferson if he got bigger. For some reason the way he runs up to the basket and dunks reminds me of Dominique but that can't be right.

Kevin Willis · Post #223 » by **Kevin Willis** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:02 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
God Squad wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I like Griffin, I think he will rise up to the lottery.
Duke is stacked, so stats may not be favouring him.

His comparison is Bulter, and I think Griffin maybe a bit bigger and longer.

Have you watched him much other than highlights? He's had like 2-3 good games all year (against bad competition) and most of his points are coming from 3pt line. He could definitely rise to the Lotto, but he needs to show much more.

Personally feel that's a bit unfair of an assessment of AJ...

The kid has been trying to work himself back into the mix after a major injury which for any player takes at least a good month or two before they even really get back into a rhythm and most would actually probably only really look themselves again the following season...this is in addition to Coach K putting him on a short leash as a coach seeking for his team to go out on top as he's set to retire AND trying to blend in with potentially 3 other 1st round picks (minimum 2 in Paolo, Keels and maybe Moore - all of whom play off the perimeter and need the ball to be effective)....that's a big & difficult ask of any kid, probably one of the least ideal situations of any top prospect.

Despite all of that in pretty much every game Coach K hasn't impatiently yanked him out of the game too quickly, he's produced with double digit performances - a few times he was nearing the 20pt mark. If anything I'm very impressed he's been able to do so despite everything working against him and doesn't appear to be letting all of that kill his confidence. You point out a lot of his scoring has been from 3pt line (which I've never known in the modern game to be a knock but he shoots at 45% so far) but also think is a product of wanting to fit into what Coach K asks of him as it seems he doesn't want him to try and do "too much" and again still somehow manages to produce. But if you watched him in HS and on Team USA his strength was actually creating off the dribble so if anything that should make him all the more intriguing. If he continues to produce at the clip he does when actually given time, personally I'll be shocked if he doesn't go in the lottery. If he really gets going though people might remember what he was expected to be and jump well into the top 10 because there's still a ton of time in which case would suck for us lol but I hope he stays under the radar...

Crazy thing is despite all of that and that he really hasn't even gotten going yet, his per40 production is on par with Ivey's 1st year and Hardy's this year. As clearly you can tell lol I have a lot faith that Griffin is a potential steal in this draft something like how Booker didn't get the time he deserved but the talent was there or even OG who's stock dropped due to injury (although I'd say AJ is a better prospect than he was). But you combine his 3pt shooting ability, his Butler like style of play in HS and Team USA and if he gets back most of his explosion (reminder to some his vertical measured the same as Zion's 45' and you see some of it on his stepbacks), it's really why for me he's the kid I've been zeroing in on as a hopeful to drop to us because I just flat out don't see us getting into the top 10 without some more luck with the ping pong balls...

With this year's crop of wings, AJ is pretty far behind. Hell Baldwin might not make lottery the way it's going now. I wouldn't be shocked if AJ doesn't come out this year and proves himself next year. This draft is looking thin for PF, PG and C - imo.

Indeed · Post #224 » by **Indeed** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:40 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
God Squad wrote:Have you watched him much other than highlights? He's had like 2-3 good games all year (against bad competition) and most of his points are coming from 3pt line. He could definitely rise to the Lotto, but he needs to show much more.

Personally feel that's a bit unfair of an assessment of AJ...

The kid has been trying to work himself back into the mix after a major injury which for any player takes at least a good month or two before they even really get back into a rhythm and most would actually probably only really look themselves again the following season...this is in addition to Coach K putting him on a short leash as a coach seeking for his team to go out on top as he's set to retire AND trying to blend in with potentially 3 other 1st round picks (minimum 2 in Paolo, Keels and maybe Moore - all of whom play off the perimeter and need the ball to be effective)....that's a big & difficult ask of any kid, probably one of the least ideal situations of any top prospect.

Despite all of that in pretty much every game Coach K hasn't impatiently yanked him out of the game too quickly, he's produced with double digit performances - a few times he was nearing the 20pt mark. If anything I'm very impressed he's been able to do so despite everything working against him and doesn't appear to be letting all of that kill his confidence. You point out a lot of his scoring has been from 3pt line (which I've never known in the modern game to be a knock but he shoots at 45% so far) but also think is a product of wanting to fit into what Coach K asks of him as it seems he doesn't want him to try and do "too much" and again still somehow manages to produce. But if you watched him in HS and on Team USA his strength was actually creating off the dribble so if anything that should make him all the more intriguing. If he continues to produce at the clip he does when actually given time, personally I'll be shocked if he doesn't go in the lottery. If he really gets going though people might remember what he was expected to be and jump well into the top 10 because there's still a ton of time in which case would suck for us lol but I hope he stays under the radar...

Crazy thing is despite all of that and that he really hasn't even gotten going yet, his per40 production is on par with Ivey's 1st year and Hardy's this year. As clearly you can tell lol I have a lot faith that Griffin is a potential steal in this draft something like how Booker didn't get the time he deserved but the talent was there or even OG who's stock dropped due to injury (although I'd say AJ is a better prospect than he was). But you combine his 3pt shooting ability, his Butler like style of play in HS and Team USA and if he gets back most of his explosion (reminder to some his vertical measured the same as Zion's 45' and you see some of it on his stepbacks), it's really why for me he's the kid I've been zeroing in on as a hopeful to drop to us because I just flat out don't see us getting into the top 10 without some more luck with the ping pong balls...

With this year's crop of wings, AJ is pretty far behind. Hell Baldwin might not make lottery the way it's going now. I wouldn't be shocked if AJ doesn't come out this year and proves himself next year. This draft is looking thin for PF, PG and C - imo.

Some of those listed as SF may play PF. Not sold on them having a handle and passing, as they are based on their vertical and finishing more than creating on the perimeter.

JShuttlesworth · Post #225 » by **JShuttlesworth** » Sat Jan 1, 2022 12:16 am

Honestly if PBJ fell to us I'd be pretty intrigued

JShuttlesworth · Post #226 » by **JShuttlesworth** » Sat Jan 1, 2022 8:03 pm

EDIT - It was already posted

Warming up to Tyty

Spoiler:

Post #227 » by **DG88** » Sat Jan 1, 2022 9:38 pm

Watch on YouTube

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Psubs · Post #228 » by **Psubs** » Sun Jan 2, 2022 3:46 pm

Murray is the age of a Jr but man he averages 2 blocks to 1.5 fouls!!! Also more steals than fouls!!!

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Psubs · Post #229 » by **Psubs** » Sun Jan 2, 2022 11:06 pm

Murray is like Franz Wagner. He shoots over 80% FT's and has good form and shoots from NBA distance so I feel that will translate.

TheBunk · Post #230 » by **TheBunk** » Sun Jan 2, 2022 11:19 pm

Tyty isn’t a masai guy and tbh he’ll get exposed in the Nba. Not the type of guy you want for your winning basketball team. Lacks IQ

TheBunk · Post #231 » by **TheBunk** » Sun Jan 2, 2022 11:20 pm

Kennedy chandler is a guy I’d zero in on instead

Post #232 » by **Reeko** » Sun Jan 2, 2022 11:50 pm

Madhouse wrote:

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I get Brandon Knight vibes from Washington. He's shooting better than Knight did at Kentucky, but their stats are fairly similar.

Post #233 » by **Reeko** » Sun Jan 2, 2022 11:57 pm

Is Chandler really only 6' ft tall? The way he dunks on the break makes it look like he's bigger.

Indeed · Post #234 » by **Indeed** » Mon Jan 3, 2022 3:17 am

Reeko wrote:Is Chandler really only 6' ft tall? The way he dunks on the break makes it look like he's bigger.

Looks like it

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tdotrep2 · Post #235 » by **tdotrep2** » Mon Jan 3, 2022 3:23 am

we need mathurin to pull a haliburton

Indeed · Post #236 » by **Indeed** » Mon Jan 3, 2022 3:34 am

Point Guards
TyTy Washington – 6-3

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Jean Montero – 6-3

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J.D. Davison – 6-2

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Kennedy Chandler - 6-1

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Mike Miles – 6-1 – TCU

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Iverson Molinar – 6-3 (couldn't find scouting video, so I have him lower)

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Dalek · Post #237 » by **Dalek** » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:02 pm

I appreciate seeing all these guards in the class, but I think this team is officially shifting away from the small player because of the way the team plays. This team want to play big and that is the NBA's game. Smalls have to be so exceptional offensively that it is hard to keep anything but elite smalls.

Toronto player archetype:

-Big time competitor who is a worker
-Can grab a rebound and push the break
-Capable of running pick and roll
-Flex option passer/decision maker
-Three point shooting ability but Toronto always values their shooting development
-Can contest perimeter shots on defense
-Can switch and cover dribble penetration

Nikola Jovic is a kind of 6'10 Franz Wagner type. Loads of international experience with Serbia, and has a high b-ball IQ. He has some jaw dropping passes at times, but overall checks all the above boxes and will only just turn 19 at the draft.

Watch on YouTube

His u19 Serbia NT highlights his true skill as a facilitator:

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will · Post #238 » by **will** » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:04 pm

Scottie & Chet!

Yeezus_ · Post #239 » by **Yeezus_** » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:09 pm

Nikola Jovic? He's going to get compared to Jokic solely on the name lol

Karanpal · Post #240 » by **Karanpal** » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:38 pm

Dalek wrote:I appreciate seeing all these guards in the class, but I think this team is officially shifting away from the small player because of the way the team plays. This team want to play big and that is the NBA's game. Smalls have to be so exceptional offensively that it is hard to keep anything but elite smalls.

Toronto player archetype:

-Big time competitor who is a worker
-Can grab a rebound and push the break
-Capable of running pick and roll
-Flex option passer/decision maker
-Three point shooting ability but Toronto always values their shooting development
-Can contest perimeter shots on defense
-Can switch and cover dribble penetration

Nikola Jovic is a kind of 6'10 Franz Wagner type. Loads of international experience with Serbia, and has a high b-ball IQ. He has some jaw dropping passes at times, but overall checks all the above boxes and will only just turn 19 at the draft.

Watch on YouTube

His u19 Serbia NT highlights his true skill as a facilitator:

Watch on YouTube

The one thing he doesn't check is his on ball defense his lateral quicks are not good and he could be a liability on that the defensive side .