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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1381 » by ag3 » Sat Jan 1, 2022 12:43 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:I dislike Trump as much as the next sane person, but he's been out of office a year now and this recent surge falls at the feet of Biden. There were major missteps that got us here, the rush to drop mask wearing by the administration to prove they had it "beat" and other stupid things done just for optics. And just like Trump the economy comes before safety of people with Biden just the same.


If you’ve read my posts, you know I’m in Florida. Most of them have not masked up for a long time now even though there is a slight uptick the past two weeks. The mandate to mask up falls upon local jurisdictions, not Joe Biden. And I can tell you that even when there were county-wide decrees that you were required to wear a mask in public places there were plenty of people here who ignored it.

Covid was going to spread no matter what and it is not Biden’s cross to bear if the public decides to spread it to each other. And Omicron came out of South Africa and in several weeks had colonized the globe.

You know what Biden did? Something highly unpopular with many Americans. He mandated vaccinations or regular testing within federal agencies and private companies with more than 100 employees. But he could do an Irish jib all day long trying to get Americans to mask up and it wouldn’t make a difference. Those who are going to mask up don’t need to be told to do it. The rest can’t be forced to do it. And covid will spread as a result.

Let’s not even begin to compare the efforts of the two administrations please. One was a grotesque, profiteering, self-agrandizing middle finger to scientific reason and another is doing the best they can. If Europe can’t stop Omicron from spreading, what makes you think that Biden could do any better anyway?




I'm in NY, the local government here took cues from Fauci / CDC that said people with vaccines could drop mask wearing, that is a blunder that falls squarely on this administration. They relaxed and it's come back on them, so many people here stopped wearing masks as a result, it went from 90% adherence down to maybe 50\50 at best. They should have never said people with vaccines don't need to wear masks.


Makes no difference bud. Omicron is as contagious as the measles. A mask is a small shield. The virus is so contagious you will be infected through the eyes, on clothing, on hair, through windows, vents, etc.

This is not the same virus as before. It’s way too contagious and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it.

It will have to sweep through 60-70%+ of the population and then we will hit an immunity wall.

NY will be in great shape from February on and will last for months. Then we have to hope no new variants that can overtake Omicron emerge.

At this point, if you are unvaccinated it’s your choice and you know the risks. If you are vaccinated, you are protected.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1382 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 1, 2022 4:17 pm

Omicron is our past pandemic mistakes on Fast Forward.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/12/omicron-mistakes/621112/

Ou relationship with the COVID vaccine is just getting started

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/12/how-many-covid-19-booster-shots/621132/
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1383 » by 8516knicks » Sat Jan 1, 2022 5:44 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Omicron is our past pandemic mistakes on Fast Forward.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/12/omicron-mistakes/621112/

Ou relationship with the COVID vaccine is just getting started

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/12/how-many-covid-19-booster-shots/621132/


Just read a SCARY stat on CNN that Friday there were 386,000 NEW cases of Covid. At that pace 2022 will see OVER 140 million Americans with it. What's our population now? 330-350 Million or so? That's got to be well over 40% at least!
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1384 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 2, 2022 12:11 am

Check out the unmitigated hypocrisy of Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1385 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 2, 2022 12:27 am

This is also Gold. Staunch anti-vaxxer’s son is in the hospital for a COVID-related pneumonia. That’s the set up, now watch

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1386 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:04 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Check out the unmitigated hypocrisy of Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

Read on Twitter
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The GOP has become 99% chit talkers. The last few honest ones I still wouldn't vote for based on their policy positions like Cheney and Kinzinger, but I can at least look upon them as still having some shred of integrity.

The rest are remorseless in their bald-faced lying. All of the new blood attracted to running for the GOP seems to be drawn exclusively from the sociopaths in our population. I don't think you can run as a Republican now unless you're committed to lying every time you open your mouth in public.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1387 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:08 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Check out the unmitigated hypocrisy of Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

Read on Twitter
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The GOP has become 99% chit talkers. The last few honest ones I still wouldn't vote for based on their policy positions like Cheney and Kinzinger, but I can at least look upon them as still having some shred of integrity.

The rest are remorseless in their bald-faced lying. All of the new blood attracted to running for the GOP seems to be drawn exclusively from the sociopaths in our population. I don't think you can run as a Republican now unless you're committed to lying every time you open your mouth in public.


Cheney lied us into the Iraq war. And Kissinger was no box of chocolates either. Let’s face it, these powerful Republicans and some Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Tester, Warner, Pelosi) are all out for themselves and are content to give us crumbs. I’m waiting for Biden to save his presidency and go after Manchinema. Joe’s done a lot a good things his first year but we need more from him to stave off a Republican takeover of Congress.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1388 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:20 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Check out the unmitigated hypocrisy of Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

Read on Twitter
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The GOP has become 99% chit talkers. The last few honest ones I still wouldn't vote for based on their policy positions like Cheney and Kinzinger, but I can at least look upon them as still having some shred of integrity.

The rest are remorseless in their bald-faced lying. All of the new blood attracted to running for the GOP seems to be drawn exclusively from the sociopaths in our population. I don't think you can run as a Republican now unless you're committed to lying every time you open your mouth in public.


Cheney lied us into the Iraq war. And Kissinger was no box of chocolates either. Let’s face it, these powerful Republicans and some Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Tester, Warner, Pelosi) are all out for themselves and are content to give us crumbs. I’m waiting for Biden to save his presidency and go after Manchinema. Joe’s done a lot a good things his first year but we need more from him to stave off a Republican takeover of Congress.


Liz Cheney, not her dad Wingo. She's on the Jan. 6 committee with Kinzinger and they have shown themselves passionate about uncovering the truth about the attempt to overthrow our government.

And lumping together Pelosi with Manchin and Sinema is gross and disrespectful. You may not like Pelosi from a leftist POV, but you've always minimized her brilliance as the House Speaker. She's smarter than all of us rolled together and she kept this country on life support during the last two years of the Trump kleptocracy. She is now doing us all a great service by masterfully running the investigation into the insurrection. Show her some respect
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1389 » by robillionaire » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:27 am

anyone watched don’t look up on Netflix yet
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1390 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:47 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
The GOP has become 99% chit talkers. The last few honest ones I still wouldn't vote for based on their policy positions like Cheney and Kinzinger, but I can at least look upon them as still having some shred of integrity.

The rest are remorseless in their bald-faced lying. All of the new blood attracted to running for the GOP seems to be drawn exclusively from the sociopaths in our population. I don't think you can run as a Republican now unless you're committed to lying every time you open your mouth in public.


Cheney lied us into the Iraq war. And Kissinger was no box of chocolates either. Let’s face it, these powerful Republicans and some Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Tester, Warner, Pelosi) are all out for themselves and are content to give us crumbs. I’m waiting for Biden to save his presidency and go after Manchinema. Joe’s done a lot a good things his first year but we need more from him to stave off a Republican takeover of Congress.


Liz Cheney, not her dad Wingo. She's on the Jan. 6 committee with Kinzinger and they have shown themselves passionate about uncovering the truth about the attempt to overthrow our government.

And lumping together Pelosi with Manchin and Sinema is gross and disrespectful. You may not like Pelosi from a leftist POV, but you've always minimized her brilliance as the House Speaker. She's smarter than all of us rolled together and she kept this country on life support during the last two years of the Trump kleptocracy. She is now doing us all a great service by masterfully running the investigation into the insurrection. Show her some respect


Liz is still a Republican who will continue to do Republican things. But I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. It’ll be interesting to see where she comes out on the upcoming House votes on other issues when she’s given the opportunity.

I have a couple points of contention with Pelosi, (1) her conviction of entitlement to be able to invest in the stock market based on inside information she learned in the course of her House business, and (2) her capitulation on separating the infrastructure and BBB bills which was a huge blunder (she trusted Manchin). She’s an entitled fossil who has lost touch with the struggles of the middle and working classes.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1391 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:49 am

robillionaire wrote:anyone watched don’t look up on Netflix yet


Yes, I saw it

Wish it were more well written as there were few genuinely comedic moments. Still, I got something from watching it even if it felt very obvious. I'm glad they took it to the logical conclusion of being blown to smithereens. The last supper was probably my favorite scene because it was actually sad and sort of beautiful

One of the problems of satirizing the right these days is many of them are so stupid it is hard to make them viable dramatically. Trump IRL is more ridiculous than any movie character. Streep realized that, but it also made her try to find the right tone and it left her kind of flat. Her son was closer to reality actually.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1392 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:54 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Cheney lied us into the Iraq war. And Kissinger was no box of chocolates either. Let’s face it, these powerful Republicans and some Democrats (Manchin, Sinema, Tester, Warner, Pelosi) are all out for themselves and are content to give us crumbs. I’m waiting for Biden to save his presidency and go after Manchinema. Joe’s done a lot a good things his first year but we need more from him to stave off a Republican takeover of Congress.


Liz Cheney, not her dad Wingo. She's on the Jan. 6 committee with Kinzinger and they have shown themselves passionate about uncovering the truth about the attempt to overthrow our government.

And lumping together Pelosi with Manchin and Sinema is gross and disrespectful. You may not like Pelosi from a leftist POV, but you've always minimized her brilliance as the House Speaker. She's smarter than all of us rolled together and she kept this country on life support during the last two years of the Trump kleptocracy. She is now doing us all a great service by masterfully running the investigation into the insurrection. Show her some respect


Liz is still a Republican who will continue to do Republican things. But I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. It’ll be interesting to see where she comes out on the upcoming House votes on other issues when she’s given the opportunity.

I have a couple points of contention with Pelosi, (1) her conviction of entitlement to be able to invest in the stock market based on inside information she learned in the course of her House business, and (2) her capitulation on separating the infrastructure and BBB bills which was a huge blunder (she trusted Manchin). She’s an entitled fossil who has lost touch with the struggles of the middle and working classes.


Pelosi's husband is a financier. She knows how to keep her nose clean so I call BS on your inside trading claim.

Nobody trusted Manchin.

I think your take on her is more about your biases than about her flaws. I'm not about to tell you the system is fantastico and she's not a part of it, but those kinds of convos are in the past AFAIK. I'm not interested in debates like that now TBH.

And, yes, you should be grateful she is getting to the heart of the matter with the insurrection. The committee has already flown their flag that they will refer Trump to the DOJ for indictment. I think Alvin Bragg will beat them to that punch, but federal charges are coming and it is because Pelosi is tough and smart.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#1393 » by 8516knicks » Sun Jan 2, 2022 3:55 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Okay, I think I found the video which explains the mass psychosis that we're seeing today here an around the world. It's actually been around for awhile but I believe Putin is pushing buttons behind the curtain to move things along.

"The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them w/ illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is easily their victim."

-Gustav Le Bon




That's a good video. The best, most hilarious part? Watch it and then read the comments section where right of center people believe it's all about the leftists and leftists believe it's all the the rightists.
Which normally, I'd get that groups are going to do that, but right after THAT video?
It's hopeless


I forget who Gustov Le Bon was but Buzz is generally right. 8-)
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1394 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 2, 2022 6:07 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Liz Cheney, not her dad Wingo. She's on the Jan. 6 committee with Kinzinger and they have shown themselves passionate about uncovering the truth about the attempt to overthrow our government.

And lumping together Pelosi with Manchin and Sinema is gross and disrespectful. You may not like Pelosi from a leftist POV, but you've always minimized her brilliance as the House Speaker. She's smarter than all of us rolled together and she kept this country on life support during the last two years of the Trump kleptocracy. She is now doing us all a great service by masterfully running the investigation into the insurrection. Show her some respect


Liz is still a Republican who will continue to do Republican things. But I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. It’ll be interesting to see where she comes out on the upcoming House votes on other issues when she’s given the opportunity.

I have a couple points of contention with Pelosi, (1) her conviction of entitlement to be able to invest in the stock market based on inside information she learned in the course of her House business, and (2) her capitulation on separating the infrastructure and BBB bills which was a huge blunder (she trusted Manchin). She’s an entitled fossil who has lost touch with the struggles of the middle and working classes.


Pelosi's husband is a financier. She knows how to keep her nose clean so I call BS on your inside trading claim.

Nobody trusted Manchin.

I think your take on her is more about your biases than about her flaws. I'm not about to tell you the system is fantastico and she's not a part of it, but those kinds of convos are in the past AFAIK. I'm not interested in debates like that now TBH.

And, yes, you should be grateful she is getting to the heart of the matter with the insurrection. The committee has already flown their flag that they will refer Trump to the DOJ for indictment. I think Alvin Bragg will beat them to that punch, but federal charges are coming and it is because Pelosi is tough and smart.


I'm talking about now. The House and the Senate are hanging in the balance this November based on how "we" handle the problems that we're facing right now. You know, better than most, that the Republicans are planning an all-fronts attack on our democracy and I'm afraid that Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi - our democratic leaders - don't have the wherewithal to handle business as it should be handled. Biden has been too hands off with Manchin and Sinema. He looked foolish for not get his agenda across with a Democratic advantage in both houses and being taken for a ride by Manchin. When are the gloves going to come off? When is Biden going to use the power of his office to push through his agenda? He has the powers of the Bully Pulpit and The Pen, i.e. executive orders. If we don't see some action by April 2022, we're going to be in big trouble.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1395 » by RShahNyC89 » Sun Jan 2, 2022 1:28 pm

Anecdotally we were hovering around 4 teams with 1-2 patients/12-13 COVID+ patients up until December. The lists today look more like 5-8/12-13. Vast majority with respiratory issues are unvaccinated (fully unvaccinated) the rest are a combination of being here for something else but COVID+ or having other viral symptoms (diarrhea or PO intolerance --> AKI, or can't walk and are elderly). For context in the peak pandemic we were 13/13 COVID+ patients with 8 teams and anyone not requiring significant O2 were shipped to the field hospital.

I'm vaxxed and boosted. We were doing restaurants up until mid December. We paused for now and are sticking to home gatherings with a small circle that I know doesn't wyl out. I think this thing will sweep through NYC within 4-6 weeks. I'm nowhere near as stressed about it as I was, part of our conservativeness with COVID is we can't really get sick and miss work/expose our patients because our hospitals are so overloaded and staff are getting sick left/right.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1396 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 2, 2022 2:13 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Liz is still a Republican who will continue to do Republican things. But I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. It’ll be interesting to see where she comes out on the upcoming House votes on other issues when she’s given the opportunity.

I have a couple points of contention with Pelosi, (1) her conviction of entitlement to be able to invest in the stock market based on inside information she learned in the course of her House business, and (2) her capitulation on separating the infrastructure and BBB bills which was a huge blunder (she trusted Manchin). She’s an entitled fossil who has lost touch with the struggles of the middle and working classes.


Pelosi's husband is a financier. She knows how to keep her nose clean so I call BS on your inside trading claim.

Nobody trusted Manchin.

I think your take on her is more about your biases than about her flaws. I'm not about to tell you the system is fantastico and she's not a part of it, but those kinds of convos are in the past AFAIK. I'm not interested in debates like that now TBH.

And, yes, you should be grateful she is getting to the heart of the matter with the insurrection. The committee has already flown their flag that they will refer Trump to the DOJ for indictment. I think Alvin Bragg will beat them to that punch, but federal charges are coming and it is because Pelosi is tough and smart.


I'm talking about now. The House and the Senate are hanging in the balance this November based on how "we" handle the problems that we're facing right now. You know, better than most, that the Republicans are planning an all-fronts attack on our democracy and I'm afraid that Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi - our democratic leaders - don't have the wherewithal to handle business as it should be handled. Biden has been too hands off with Manchin and Sinema. He looked foolish for not get his agenda across with a Democratic advantage in both houses and being taken for a ride by Manchin. When are the gloves going to come off? When is Biden going to use the power of his office to push through his agenda? He has the powers of the Bully Pulpit and The Pen, i.e. executive orders. If we don't see some action by April 2022, we're going to be in big trouble.


They got done what needed to get done. Blaming Biden for two rogue democrats in a 50/50 Senate is absurd. Claiming Biden is not a master of congressional procedure is the strangest thing you could ever accuse him of. They’ve accomplished more with a compromised majority than the GOP ever did with full control.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

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Post#1398 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jan 3, 2022 6:58 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Pelosi's husband is a financier. She knows how to keep her nose clean so I call BS on your inside trading claim.

Nobody trusted Manchin.

I think your take on her is more about your biases than about her flaws. I'm not about to tell you the system is fantastico and she's not a part of it, but those kinds of convos are in the past AFAIK. I'm not interested in debates like that now TBH.

And, yes, you should be grateful she is getting to the heart of the matter with the insurrection. The committee has already flown their flag that they will refer Trump to the DOJ for indictment. I think Alvin Bragg will beat them to that punch, but federal charges are coming and it is because Pelosi is tough and smart.


I'm talking about now. The House and the Senate are hanging in the balance this November based on how "we" handle the problems that we're facing right now. You know, better than most, that the Republicans are planning an all-fronts attack on our democracy and I'm afraid that Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi - our democratic leaders - don't have the wherewithal to handle business as it should be handled. Biden has been too hands off with Manchin and Sinema. He looked foolish for not get his agenda across with a Democratic advantage in both houses and being taken for a ride by Manchin. When are the gloves going to come off? When is Biden going to use the power of his office to push through his agenda? He has the powers of the Bully Pulpit and The Pen, i.e. executive orders. If we don't see some action by April 2022, we're going to be in big trouble.


They got done what needed to get done. Blaming Biden for two rogue democrats in a 50/50 Senate is absurd. Claiming Biden is not a master of congressional procedure is the strangest thing you could ever accuse him of. They’ve accomplished more with a compromised majority than the GOP ever did with full control.


Oh please, so making excuses for him. Biden need to find ways to twist arms like Lincoln did over the Emancipation Act or LBJ when it came to the Civil Right Act of 1964. Did you forget your history?

Bernie is out the fighting harder than Biden for his agenda right now. This is unacceptable. He’s taken this bipartisan BS too far. It’s time to put boot to neck.
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Post#1399 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Jan 3, 2022 2:51 pm

Will be must see TV soon if Ivanka if subpoenaed for the Live proceedings of the January 6th Committee that will be publicly broadcast soon. The committee has confirmed they have “first hand testimony” that Ivanka twice approached her father during the siege and begged him to call it off. Someone who was standing there next to Trump was present for this and is cooperating with the investigation. This is another aspect of proving the top-down culpability for the insurrection that bookends the coordinated war rooms used to plan the attack that ran out of The Willard Hotel and the already confirmed collaborations between the WH and various members of congress.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread 

Post#1400 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:07 pm

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Could it be that they got sick at that hospital or...they were tested and came in with it? Symptom severity would be another interesting bit of info to have. Making this type of tweet without any specifics is kinda lame. Like...what is the whole story?
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