Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1441 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:02 am

And when I say replace Duncan with Strus, although I think Strus is the better all around player, im saying this in a scenario where Duncan is traded with a pick(s) for a player that is better than him to boost our team while retaining Strus to pick up where he left off whether that’s on the bench if we were to trade for someone like Buddy or Barnes, or in the starting lineup if we were to trade for someone like Turner to player next to Bam

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1442 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:03 am

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dshearn wrote:My entire understanding of NBA development is getting thrown out the window. I have no idea how the Heat keep plugging holes on the bench the way they are. I get that Lowery is a major factor in getting people in the right spot, but i cant separate how much is lowery and how much is talent development/evaluation.

I guess the end of NBA bench guys are not light years better then the fringe guys that show out in G league. I use to think that was a bigger jump then maybe it actually is.

It could be luck, but damn...Duncan, Martin, Yurt, Strus, Gabe, and maybe now maybe Guy?

I wonder if the Heat are even surprising themselves with the next man up approach we have seen. I use to think they didn't want the spacing of Duncan to walk out the door, I am now thinking they REALLY wanted that salary tied up to trade it.

I think the change in play style and the game being catered to offensively gifted players these days has a lot to do with it

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1443 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 1:34 am

Back to Bam for Towns, if we’re discussing trading Bam for another big, it’s not worth discussing unless it’s Embiid or Jokic

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1444 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 1:34 am

Maybe AD but Bam already busted his ass this year

3ballbomber · Post #1445 » by **3ballbomber** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 1:49 am

twix2500 wrote:So where is everyone at today on Guy? Do you all still think he is a replacement for Herro or G-League player?

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AirP. · Post #1446 » by **AirP.** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 3:00 am

twix2500 wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter
So you and 3ammy want to replace Duncan and Herro with Strus and Guy. Gotcha

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What? I post this info when I see it posted on twitter, I did it earlier in the year but to address your statement for me just posting that tweet, LAST SEASON and this offseason I was saying to let Robinson walk in the offseason and replace him with Strus and hopefully use that money to sign other players for positions of need... namely PF until Bam is moved to PF.

I think Miami can find/develop players to work well on the roster so I'm all for packaging players to try to get high level players.

On Guy, I wouldn't mind him on the roster but he's not as good as Herro. Adding more players that could contribute does allow the FO to make more moves in the future. I wouldn't be mad to see Martin converted to a vet min with Guy added as a 2-way player.

Players like Strus and Guy are the reason I don't think teams should be overpaying for players who can only shoot, you can find those players for cheap.

dshearn · Post #1447 » by **dshearn** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 7:47 am

AirP. wrote:
Players like Strus and Guy are the reason I don't think teams should be overpaying for players who can only shoot, you can find those players for cheap.

That's looking wise right about now.....

I cant help but think Duncan was right place at the right time, and they needed to lock up money for a future over the cap trade...

Post #1448 » by **Wiltside** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 9:10 am

Ok hear me out…

KZ and Keef for Winnie idc idc idc

If Jimmy is gone for a month or more, give me a Point Winnie renaissance.

Post #1449 » by **IggieCC** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 9:25 am

Wiltside wrote:Ok hear me out…

KZ and Keef for Winnie idc idc idc

If Jimmy is gone for a month or more, give me a Point Winnie renaissance.

Post #1450 » by **IggieCC** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 9:27 am

In all honesty that's a no brainer but Clipps are depleted and say no. They need actual NBA level players not two immobilized players

Post #1451 » by **IggieCC** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 9:31 am

Watch on YouTube

I'm sure someone posted this before, but it's some real bullchit that Jokic got away with this heinous human assault with one game suspension.

Can the league retroactively suspend his ass for 15 games? 30 games? that's a whiplash from a pickup truck rear-ending :mad:

twix2500 · Post #1452 » by **twix2500** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 9:47 am

Heat have some real NBA teams to play now and the injury to Butler again is bad timing. Heat were lucky to play non NBA level teams. **** is about to get real. Reality can be a bia bia.

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AirP. · Post #1453 » by **AirP.** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 12:49 pm

dshearn wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Players like Strus and Guy are the reason I don't think teams should be overpaying for players who can only shoot, you can find those players for cheap.

That's looking wise right about now.....

I cant help but think Duncan was right place at the right time, and they needed to lock up money for a future over the cap trade...

That's what I hope is the reason the FO paid him, to retain him as a sizable contract to move once they saw this team this year, possibly next year with them hard capped. Also, paying Robinson nearly instantly allowed Miami to tell Oladipo, all we can do is give you the minimum for next season because of the hard cap and Oladipo couldn't really argue to get more money, it wasn't possible.

harlem_ball · Post #1454 » by **harlem_ball** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 1:16 pm

Dammit the sore butt had Jimmy off his feet, not walking, his ankles are weak and now injured. He needs total rehab and reconditioning.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1455 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 1:57 pm

Herro wants to be a starter but when he starts he’s an inefficient chucker. He’s a net negative player whether he starts or not but at least off the bench he’s putting up efficient numbers. I really wonder what this team is going to do.

1. Stand still and ride it out with this group.

2. Trade Duncan and picks for an upgrade to the rotation

3. Trade Duncan, Herro, and picks for a star and go all in to win the championship while the league is wide open.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1456 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 1:58 pm

twix2500 wrote:Heat have some real NBA teams to play now and the injury to Butler again is bad timing. Heat were lucky to play non NBA level teams. **** is about to get real. Reality can be a bia bia.

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Not that bad, severity of Jimmys injury is the only thing that could make it rough.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1457 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 2:05 pm

It’s unfortunate but our guy Jimmy is made of glass. He’s only played 8 more games than AD since he’s been in Miami just for reference.

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #1458 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 2:24 pm

It's insane how injury prone Yimmy is. Dude seems to turn an ankle and miss time with it like 4-5 times a season, on top of all the other random injuries he incurs. Wear some fkn hightops ffs

And what's the deal with us playing against full-strength rosters the past few games? I thought everyone was supposedly dealing with this covid chit

Ugh the pizza withdrawals have me in a pretty agitated state this morning

harlem_ball · Post #1459 » by **harlem_ball** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 2:38 pm

Kyle Guy has impressed us because he shoots the damn ball. No one is telling Guy to get to the line. Take notes, Herro.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1460 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Tue Jan 4, 2022 3:06 pm

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BenoUdrihFTL wrote:It's insane how injury prone Yimmy is. Dude seems to turn an ankle and miss time with it like 4-5 times a season, on top of all the other random injuries he incurs. Wear some fkn hightops ffs

And what's the deal with us playing against full-strength rosters the past few games? I thought everyone was supposedly dealing with this covid chit

Ugh the pizza withdrawals have me in a pretty agitated state this morning

He needs to take off those busted ass Li-Nings. Those shoes are garbage and my guy keeps rolling his ankle in them.