Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[mdenny]

Barnes' consistency sort of hurts him. He's pretty much a lock for 12-20 points a game on good efficiency (for a rookie) with a bunch rebs, asts, stls and blks. He's had very few off games.

But to win awards you need headlines. A flashy triple double or 30 point nights help.

In comparison to Wagner, Barnes currently leads in MIN, REB, AST, BLK, FG%, TS% and he's a more versatile defender.

In comparison to Mobley, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, AST, STL, 3PT%.

In comparison to Giddey, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, REB, STL, BLK, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, TS%

The question we should be asking ourselves is "who would we rather have?" For me it's a toss-up between mobley and barnes and everyone else is far behind.

[Marmoset]

Barnes' consistency sort of hurts him. He's pretty much a lock for 12-20 points a game on good efficiency (for a rookie) with a bunch rebs, asts, stls and blks. He's had very few off games.

But to win awards you need headlines. A flashy triple double or 30 point nights help.

In comparison to Wagner, Barnes currently leads in MIN, REB, AST, BLK, FG%, TS% and he's a more versatile defender.

In comparison to Mobley, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, AST, STL, 3PT%.

In comparison to Giddey, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, REB, STL, BLK, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, TS%

He is remarkably consistent. I would really have to do some research to come up with a rookie who has played at such a high level and done so this consistently. As you have pointed out, usually a rookie will follow up a couple of big 30 point games with some single digit clunkers.

I concur with those in here who don't really care if he wins ROY. I'll take a championship or two with Scottie being a key piece.

[OakleyDokely]

Barnes' consistency sort of hurts him. He's pretty much a lock for 12-20 points a game on good efficiency (for a rookie) with a bunch rebs, asts, stls and blks. He's had very few off games.

But to win awards you need headlines. A flashy triple double or 30 point nights help.

In comparison to Wagner, Barnes currently leads in MIN, REB, AST, BLK, FG%, TS% and he's a more versatile defender.

In comparison to Mobley, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, AST, STL, 3PT%.

In comparison to Giddey, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, REB, STL, BLK, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, TS%

He is remarkably consistent. I would really have to do some research to come up with a rookie who has played at such a high level and done so this consistently. As you have pointed out, usually a rookie will follow up a couple of big 30 point games with some single digit clunkers.

I concur with those in here who don't really care if he wins ROY. I'll take a championship or two with Scottie being a key piece.

Scottie's scored 10+ points in all but 2 games this year. He's only shot under 40% from the field in 4 games. He's been remarkably consistent for a rookie.

[OakleyDokely]

Barnes' consistency sort of hurts him. He's pretty much a lock for 12-20 points a game on good efficiency (for a rookie) with a bunch rebs, asts, stls and blks. He's had very few off games.

But to win awards you need headlines. A flashy triple double or 30 point nights help.

In comparison to Wagner, Barnes currently leads in MIN, REB, AST, BLK, FG%, TS% and he's a more versatile defender.

In comparison to Mobley, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, AST, STL, 3PT%.

In comparison to Giddey, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, REB, STL, BLK, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, TS%

The question we should be asking ourselves is "who would we rather have?" For me it's a toss-up between mobley and barnes and everyone else is far behind.

The only guy I'd seriously consider is Mobley.

[Madhouse]

Barnes is slooooowly dropping down the ROY ladder.

To the surprise of nobody.

He is like 5th in the pecking order for plays/shots behind fred, pascal, og, Trent.... even boucher gets more passes near the rim, etc....

Coach and masai aiming for playoffs....

Idk what conclusions I would draw from it. But reality is he is the 5th option and 6th in usage. So naturally his standing will drop.

[Dalek]

Barnes' consistency sort of hurts him. He's pretty much a lock for 12-20 points a game on good efficiency (for a rookie) with a bunch rebs, asts, stls and blks. He's had very few off games.

But to win awards you need headlines. A flashy triple double or 30 point nights help.

In comparison to Wagner, Barnes currently leads in MIN, REB, AST, BLK, FG%, TS% and he's a more versatile defender.

In comparison to Mobley, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, AST, STL, 3PT%.

In comparison to Giddey, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, REB, STL, BLK, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, TS%

The question we should be asking ourselves is "who would we rather have?" For me it's a toss-up between mobley and barnes and everyone else is far behind.

The only guy I'd seriously consider is Mobley.

I have said it a month ago that the gap between Wagner and Barnes is not huge. Wagner looks like a very fluid three level scorer-type. If you end up with a Gordan Hayward, that ain't bad.

Giddey looks really special running an offense. He looks like Lamelo Ball a bit the way he can zing passes so accurately. Same with Cade, although he is playing with some of the worst shooters in the NBA.

I don't really know what to make of Scottie other than he makes winning plays more often than not. He isn't an elite scorer but he has moments where he scores in bunches. He gets blown by on defense but as a rim protector he looks good. Running an offense is inconclusive because he hasn't had a ton of opportunity. I don't like how he sleepwalks through the first half more often than not.

That said, Toronto has never really handed Scottie the reigns until now. He is going to run that bench unit and we can see if he can really make it as focal point.

Ultimately I love his energy, his spirit is infectious. While the other players are cool new school types, Scottie is a physical throwback. With his outlier strength and bball IQ I am excited to see him grow, but I think it may take a bit longer because Nurse is a high accountability coach.

[HumbleRen]

This class is really deep, if you told me 7 of these guys would become future all stars, I wouldn’t blink.

Mobley is elite at defence

Giddey is a basketball savant, he’s a tier ahead of everyone in terms of being a floor general

Cade virtually has no major weakness as a complete package

Kuminga is the most athletic fluid athlete in the class, can easily become a great 2 way player

Barnes is a Swiss Army knife, plays the correct way, isn’t elite at any one thing but is good to great in almost everything. Can easily be a career 20/10/5 guy.

Franz Wagner is like the perimeter version of Barnes, great feel for the game, just a winning player in general

Jalen Green can easily become the next Zack Lavine imo

So many more, what a fantastic class.

[Kingsway_fan]

With the team at full strength and fred , pascal taking most of the shots, I don't see Barnes numbers where they were earlier .. he s not getting 15 shots a game....

[Madhouse]

With the team at full strength and fred , pascal taking most of the shots, I don't see Barnes numbers where they were earlier .. he s not getting 15 shots a game....

10 shots if he is lucky. I think 8 will be the standard.

[pingpongrac]

With the team at full strength and fred , pascal taking most of the shots, I don't see Barnes numbers where they were earlier .. he s not getting 15 shots a game....

To be fair, most people expected him to put up 7/5/3 type numbers off the bench this year. It has also been 1.5 games, and Scottie is coming back from COVID/knee tendinitis. Still, he has 5 points, 5 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal and 1 block at halftime.

Scottie being the glue guy -- which he has been most of the season aside from a few early season games against the Celtics and Pacers -- is a perfect role for him right now. He'll be flirting with triple doubles almost every game.

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[Raps in 4]

With the team at full strength and fred , pascal taking most of the shots, I don't see Barnes numbers where they were earlier .. he s not getting 15 shots a game....

Fred is taking all the shots tonight because he can't miss.

[DG88]

Barnes almost gets a triple double damn!

[hype_2004]

Barnes almost gets a triple double damn!

When he has the ball good things happen, ball movement was impeccable, Scottie does it all.

[Kingsway_fan]

Barnes almost gets a triple double damn!

When he has the ball good things happen, ball movement was impeccable, Scottie does it all.

Easily possible to tonight, plus 1 stl and 1 block.. all on 7 shots

[OakleyDokely]

11/9/8/1/1 on 4/7 shooting, with solid D and only 1 turnover.

[gp2015]

With the team at full strength and fred , pascal taking most of the shots, I don't see Barnes numbers where they were earlier .. he s not getting 15 shots a game....

10 shots if he is lucky. I think 8 will be the standard.

Perhaps he might get more shots after the all star game.

[LoveMyRaps]

Barnes almost gets a triple double damn!

That missed dunk by Precious was comical. I forgave him for getting the AND1 but still that was such a Precious moment.

[LoveMyRaps]

11/9/8/1/1 on 4/7 shooting, with solid D and only 1 turnover.

Beautiful performance. Loved what he brought to the table tonight.
His assist numbers will go up a lot if Nurse continues to give him minutes at the 1 spot (which he probably will considering how well Barnes has been playing).

[Madhouse]

With the team at full strength and fred , pascal taking most of the shots, I don't see Barnes numbers where they were earlier .. he s not getting 15 shots a game....

10 shots if he is lucky. I think 8 will be the standard.

Perhaps he might get more shots after the all star game is over.

I think that's just how the pecking order is.

5th option.

[mdenny]

Barnes' consistency sort of hurts him. He's pretty much a lock for 12-20 points a game on good efficiency (for a rookie) with a bunch rebs, asts, stls and blks. He's had very few off games.

But to win awards you need headlines. A flashy triple double or 30 point nights help.

In comparison to Wagner, Barnes currently leads in MIN, REB, AST, BLK, FG%, TS% and he's a more versatile defender.

In comparison to Mobley, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, AST, STL, 3PT%.

In comparison to Giddey, Barnes currently leads in MIN, PTS, REB, STL, BLK, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, TS%

The question we should be asking ourselves is "who would we rather have?" For me it's a toss-up between mobley and barnes and everyone else is far behind.

The only guy I'd seriously consider is Mobley.

Yep. Even then....i think scottie's ceiling is higher. If Jalen green averages 27 ppg for the rest of the season i still go with scottie.

That said....scottie's defense was bad tonight. Turns out Poetl is a bad matchup for him. Was kinda surpised to see him get blown past so easily. But it's a great learning experience still. Others have pointed out scottie's lateral movement isn't so great and tonight was a good example. A few times poetl went around him like he was nothing....i figured maybe he was baiting poetl into a block but nope.