Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[pingpongrac]

Read on Twitter

?s=20


we know who

I can't believe people are taking these comments as a slight to Scottie. FVV is comparing Scottie's offence/current role to one of the best playmaking bigs in the past two decades at age 20 while also pointing out that he's more athletic.

Our offence looks very good with Scottie (and occasionally Siakam) taking on a more facilitating role and taking advantage of the occasional mismatch, second chance or transition opportunities. Isn't this basically what everyone wanted? The ball in Scottie's hands with FVV (or GTJ spotting up for open threes more often? Or was it really all just about putting up 20 shots and 20 points all along so he can win ROY?

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app

[vulture]

To hell with all these Raptor fans wanting their best young player to develop!

Barnes - 36mpg and 19.0% usg. / 12.6 FGA

Other players who had similar roles at 20 yrs old:

Nikola Jokic - 21.7 / 19.9% usg / 7.5 FGA
Giannis Antetokounpo 31.4 mpg / 19.6% usg / 9.6 FGA
Kawhi Leonard - 24mins / 14.5% usg / 6.3 FGA
James Harden - 22 mins / 20.4% usg / 7.6 FGA
Steph Curry - 36.2 min / 21.8% usg. / 14.3 FGA

Which one of these players wasnt able to develop properly?

Not exactly sure why you comparing Scottie to some of the best players to ever play the game? They are outliers for a reason.

I’m not sure why I have to point this out but what he’s saying great players succeed regardless of the role (which is fine) and getting a few extra shots doesn’t hinder anyone’s development.

Man this place is so dumb.

[Johnny Bball]

None of the stans have even looked at what kyrie or wall or even doncic had for shots in their rookie year. Barnes has almost 13 shots a game. That’s a lot. And none of you even know that it is a lot.

[prelude00]

Barnes - 36mpg and 19.0% usg. / 12.6 FGA

Other players who had similar roles at 20 yrs old:

Nikola Jokic - 21.7 / 19.9% usg / 7.5 FGA
Giannis Antetokounpo 31.4 mpg / 19.6% usg / 9.6 FGA
Kawhi Leonard - 24mins / 14.5% usg / 6.3 FGA
James Harden - 22 mins / 20.4% usg / 7.6 FGA
Steph Curry - 36.2 min / 21.8% usg. / 14.3 FGA

Which one of these players wasnt able to develop properly?

Not exactly sure why you comparing Scottie to some of the best players to ever play the game? They are outliers for a reason.

I’m not sure why I have to point this out but what he’s saying great players succeed regardless of the role (which is fine) and getting a few extra shots doesn’t hinder anyone’s development.

Man this place is so dumb.

Yep. If Scottie is going to be a franchise player he'll eventually push through and take that role without anyone having to pave the way for him.

Fred, Pascal, OG were all brought along in the same way and look at them now. That's an undrafted player and mid to late first round picks. The raptors clearly know how to develop guys - I don't see why people are questioning it now when the evidence is there.


Team's winning and Scottie is playing great. ZERO complaints.

Sent from my SM-G965W using Tapatalk

[gp2015]

Barnes - 36mpg and 19.0% usg. / 12.6 FGA

Other players who had similar roles at 20 yrs old:

Nikola Jokic - 21.7 / 19.9% usg / 7.5 FGA
Giannis Antetokounpo 31.4 mpg / 19.6% usg / 9.6 FGA
Kawhi Leonard - 24mins / 14.5% usg / 6.3 FGA
James Harden - 22 mins / 20.4% usg / 7.6 FGA
Steph Curry - 36.2 min / 21.8% usg. / 14.3 FGA

Which one of these players wasnt able to develop properly?

Not exactly sure why you comparing Scottie to some of the best players to ever play the game? They are outliers for a reason.

I’m not sure why I have to point this out but what he’s saying great players succeed regardless of the role (which is fine) and getting a few extra shots doesn’t hinder anyone’s development.

Man this place is so dumb.

All time great talents will succeed because they have all time great talent? Wow, that is ground breaking!

Is Scottie an all time great talent?

[DelAbbot]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There goes ROY. Marc Gasol sacrificed a lot of his stats during his time here.

[Dalek]

I am really amazed at how this kid adapts. I don't really like the Nurse plays him 3 mins shifts to start the 1st and 3rd but his at least with the bench he looks more comfortable.

Now playing more on ball and defending Cs is his perfect evolution. That is crazy to think he can play the 1 on offense and guard the 5. Only Giannis can do that. Now let's see him guard Giannis.

ROY maybe out, because boxscore stats matter and his numbers have gone down with the full team, but he will likely get minutes playing on a winner which is better long term.

[dTox]

Great game from Scottie, although I'm hoping he attacks the rim more, great things happen when he's got a full steam going downhill.

Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk

[720]

Scottie’s last 10 games, I understand Mobley’s defensive impact is higher due to the nature of his position and the Cavs are a top 5 team in the east. But Scottie putting up these numbers basically as the 4th/5th option most nights (3rd option at the most) is truly scary. No limit to this kid.

[Madhouse]

Not exactly sure why you comparing Scottie to some of the best players to ever play the game? They are outliers for a reason.

I’m not sure why I have to point this out but what he’s saying great players succeed regardless of the role (which is fine) and getting a few extra shots doesn’t hinder anyone’s development.

Man this place is so dumb.

All time great talents will succeed because they have all time great talent? Wow, that is ground breaking!

Is Scottie an all time great talent?

possibly. Time will tell. More highly thought of than most of those players at this stage at least. By year 3 or 4 we will see though. That's when players become franchise players.

[Syd-TK3]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There goes ROY. Marc Gasol sacrificed a lot of his stats during his time here.

As long as the cavs have a better record than us scottie was never winning it

[mdenny]

I am really amazed at how this kid adapts. I don't really like the Nurse plays him 3 mins shifts to start the 1st and 3rd but his at least with the bench he looks more comfortable.

Now playing more on ball and defending Cs is his perfect evolution. That is crazy to think he can play the 1 on offense and guard the 5. Only Giannis can do that. Now let's see him guard Giannis.

ROY maybe out, because boxscore stats matter and his numbers have gone down with the full team, but he will likely get minutes playing on a winner which is better long term.

Scottie coming out early is to facitate him running point while fred is on the bench. If ppl are worried about his statline....they should be happy he's hitting the bench early. It means his usage will go up.

We've been wondering how nurse is gonna figure out how to avoid catastrophe during fred's bench minutes. I honestly can't rememeber a raptor team that fell apart so drastically without one player.

In anycase...it's looking like the plan is to give scottie the quick hook so that he runs the team while fred rests. So if it's higher usage ppl want....the quick hook for scottie in 1st and 3rd will do that.

[Madhouse]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There goes ROY. Marc Gasol sacrificed a lot of his stats during his time here.

Gasol averaged 16/9/5 at Memphis. Trade, then 9/7/4 at Toronto lmao

[mdenny]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There goes ROY. Marc Gasol sacrificed a lot of his stats during his time here.

As long as the cavs have a better record than us scottie was never winning it

The cavs will not have a better record than us now with sexton and rubio gone for season. If i was the cavs i'd be thinking tank to be honest. Trade love for futures while his value has made a resurgence....give mobley development time and alot of load management for allen/garland. Add one more lotto pick plus whatever Love gets you and they are sitting pretty.

I'd want the raptors to tank if we lost 2 of our main guys for season too.

[Madhouse]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There goes ROY. Marc Gasol sacrificed a lot of his stats during his time here.

As long as the cavs have a better record than us scottie was never winning it

And when they have a better record they will give to Wagner. Those are the rules.

[mdenny]

This ROY thing is so weird. Lol. Who cares?

I'm a fred fanboy and i really dont care much about the allstar game. If he gets it thats fine.

I can't imagine being angry when OG puts up 30 "because now maybe fred wont make the allstar game" lol.

[gp2015]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There goes ROY. Marc Gasol sacrificed a lot of his stats during his time here.

As long as the cavs have a better record than us scottie was never winning it

Since when was team record a huge consideration for rookie of the year?

The best rookies are usually drafted by the worst teams and that doesn't usually change in one season.

[TheRaptor!]

Read on Twitter

?s=20


we know who

I can't believe people are taking these comments as a slight to Scottie. FVV is comparing Scottie's offence/current role to one of the best playmaking bigs in the past two decades at age 20 while also pointing out that he's more athletic.

Our offence looks very good with Scottie (and occasionally Siakam) taking on a more facilitating role and taking advantage of the occasional mismatch, second chance or transition opportunities. Isn't this basically what everyone wanted? The ball in Scottie's hands with FVV (or GTJ spotting up for open threes more often? Or was it really all just about putting up 20 shots and 20 points all along so he can win ROY?

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app

You got it.

These guys are bigger Scottie fans than Raptor fans

[vulture]

This ROY thing is so weird. Lol. Who cares?

I'm a fred fanboy and i really dont care much about the allstar game. If he gets it thats fine.

I can't imagine being angry when OG puts up 30 "because now maybe fred wont make the allstar game" lol.

Only on social and realgm do people care about that stuff. It’s a form of validation for them so they can bicker with other fanbases.

[pingpongrac]

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There goes ROY. Marc Gasol sacrificed a lot of his stats during his time here.

Gasol averaged 16/9/5 at Memphis. Trade, then 9/7/4 at Toronto lmao

Yeah because that's the same thing lol. Gasol was playing 34 MPG on a ~30-win team with Conley being the only other legit offensive threat. If Gasol was playing the same amount of minutes in Toronto, his overall production would have barely fallen off despite playing with Kawhi (who was arguably a top 3 offensive player in 18/19) and two other borderline all-stars (post-trade Siakam put up 20/7/4 on 63 TS%).

Per36 in Memphis: 16.8/9.2/5.0
Per36 in Toronto: 13.2/9.6/5.6

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app