Weekly Game Threads !

[bluejerseyjinx]

I don't think we are stuck in our own ways. I believe we know what it takes to be in the biggest games and win them. We also know what it is like to go 20 years without a losing record. And we also know what it takes to play in 12 NFC/NFL Championship games in 17 years. We also know what it is like to have a coach for 29 years that puts fear in their opponents and doesn't want to play them come playoff time. We also know what it is like to have a stable front office and GM that knows how to win and what it takes. We also know what it is like to have an owner that lets the football people do their football ****. We also know what it is like to have a coach that can wheel and deal, draft and innovate with the best ever. We also knew what it was like to start out from nothing in 1960 with no draft and have a Championship team in 6 years. Jerry has been rebuilding for the past 19.

[Micah Prescott]

I'm not sure what any of those things have to do with Romo.

How about you explain to me how it is that you fault Romo for the Green Bay loss?


You don't actually have to explain that to me, I already know what happened. The final score had Dallas losing so your simple brain calculated that as a Romo choke job because that is as complex as you can get. I'm just hoping I can make a light bulb click in there but probably not.

[Mr B]

You want to know another super clutch moment for Romo? His playoff game vs Green Bay in what should have been a win.

Even the NFL themselves have now acknowledged that DEZ CAUGHT IT.

But you know, the final score dictates your opinion of players so what can you do? Romo sucks.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. “Almost” winning is still losing. Those numbers are empty in my book.

Give me a guy like Troy Aikman who’s numbers look very pedestrian today but he was super clutch in playoff games and has 3 rings. I’d take that over great numbers and no significant playoff success.

So if the refs give Dez the catch and the Cowboys win somehow NOW that means Romo was "clutch"?

You are seriously incapable of seeing the glaringly obvious flaw in that logic?

You HAVE to ignore the score when judging 1 player on a 53 man team. Simple as that.

Also Aikman himself says Romo is better than him. Give Romo Aikman's roster and Romo might have 4 rings.

Yes if Romo is somehow able to win that game and advance to the NFC title game it looks better for him. He didn’t though. He lost, like he always did. That’s his legacy like it or not.

[Mr B]

You want to know another super clutch moment for Romo? His playoff game vs Green Bay in what should have been a win.

Even the NFL themselves have now acknowledged that DEZ CAUGHT IT.

But you know, the final score dictates your opinion of players so what can you do? Romo sucks.

Yes. Dez caught it.

And we would have still lost that game because our vaunted defense that afternoon couldn't pass rush nor otherwise stop a one legged QB who had all day to throw on that final Packer drive.

Go back and watch. It never changes.

I think we would have won but even if what you are saying is true that would be on our "vaunted defense" and not Romo who did everything he needed to.

Go back and look at that Dez play. Remember it was 4th down. Romo had Dez (who was covered) or he had another WR underneath that was wide open and would have easily got the 1st down. Romo went for the big play, which is what he pretty much always did instead of taking the for sure 1st down. That’s the difference between him and Troy. He went for the big play and failed instead of making the smart play.

I’m not disputing that Romo wasn’t fun to watch, he absolutely was. Those little errors though made all the difference between him being a championship player or a perineal loser.

[Mr B]

Yes. Dez caught it.

And we would have still lost that game because our vaunted defense that afternoon couldn't pass rush nor otherwise stop a one legged QB who had all day to throw on that final Packer drive.

Go back and watch. It never changes.

I think we would have won but even if what you are saying is true that would be on our "vaunted defense" and not Romo who did everything he needed to.

Go back and look at that Dez play. Remember it was 4th down. Romo had Dez (who was covered) or he had another WR underneath that was wide open and would have easily got the 1st down. Romo went for the big play, which is what he pretty much always did instead of taking the for sure 1st down. That’s the difference between him and Troy. He went for the big play and failed instead of making the smart play.

I’m not disputing that Romo wasn’t fun to watch, he absolutely was. Those little errors though made all the difference between him being a championship player or a perineal loser.

It was Beasley that was open or at least open enough to get the 1st.

Here’s the play

Watch on YouTube

[Mr B]

Ya'll got Otis to chime in. Well done.

We haven’t had this much action around here in years! Props to the new guy for stoking the fire.

[Mr B]

ugh, totally beside the point but Dez caught it at the 1 yard line. We run off lots of clock and score and it's a completely different game. Neither myself or you know what happens in that alternate reality.

THE POINT is that Romo was clutch in that game. He made the throws he needed to make.

He had a 143.6 rating in that game. NO INTERCEPTIONS.

How much time do you really think the Cowboys were going to run off the clock had they ruled that a completion... with 4:06 left on the clock at the time of the play? Even if they had scored a TD on the next play, they would have only been up by 2 and Green Bay would have had the ball with around 4 minutes, one time out, and going against a defense that was incapable of stopping them.

I'm not arguing about Romo here. That game might be his crowning achievement. I'm arguing that your premise that the Cowboys would have won the game had they ruled in favor of Dez catching it is utterly flawed and lacking in credibility. Because our defense SUCKED and CHOKED!!!

Go look.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201501110gnb.htm#all_pbp

100% correct about the pass rush not being able to get to a gimpy Rodgers. He literally was playing on 1 leg and never left the pocket in that game. Never had to leave the pocket.

[Mr B]

"These young generation fans" just have enough common sense to know that winning and losing is a team stat and not a QB stat.

The year Denver won a ring with Peyton he was literally the lowest rated QB in the entire NFL.

And if you can watch Nick Foles and Joe Flacco win rings and still think this game is a tennis match between QBs then there is no use debating this, you're stuck in your ways.

It’s not just about the ring. It’s overall playoff success. Peyton had several battles throughout his playoff career and already had won a SB.

[Otis Driftwood]

Ya'll got Otis to chime in. Well done.

The number of times I’ve found myself in “discussions” about that one play and whether it would made a difference in winning or losing that game is ridiculous. That defense couldn’t have stopped Aaron Rodgers on that final drive if you had held a gun to their collective heads. And he was on ONE DAMN LEG!

It was typical of the Romo era. Either he was terrific and the defense blew or he was sitting on the sideline injured while the defense shone. Rarely did the two meet in the middle. And when they did (like in 2007), we had Patrick Crayton out there to give us his fine work.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I'm not sure what any of those things have to do with Romo.

How about you explain to me how it is that you fault Romo for the Green Bay loss?


You don't actually have to explain that to me, I already know what happened. The final score had Dallas losing so your simple brain calculated that as a Romo choke job because that is as complex as you can get. I'm just hoping I can make a light bulb click in there but probably not.

You make Romo sound like he was the second coming to Christ. Romo doesn't even come close to being compared to Staubach and Aikman. Not even close or in the same conversation. Romo couldn't even carry Staubach's briefcase. There just isn't no comparison. I'd still put Danny White and Don Meredith above Romo in all time comparisons.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Ya'll got Otis to chime in. Well done.

We haven’t had this much action around here in years! Props to the new guy for stoking the fire.

I agree. The banter is awesome !!

[bluejerseyjinx]

"These young generation fans" just have enough common sense to know that winning and losing is a team stat and not a QB stat.

The year Denver won a ring with Peyton he was literally the lowest rated QB in the entire NFL.

And if you can watch Nick Foles and Joe Flacco win rings and still think this game is a tennis match between QBs then there is no use debating this, you're stuck in your ways.

It’s not just about the ring. It’s overall playoff success. Peyton had several battles throughout his playoff career and already had won a SB.

Even Craig Morton got us to our first Super Bowl. And he sucked.

[Otis Driftwood]

Ya'll got Otis to chime in. Well done.

We haven’t had this much action around here in years! Props to the new guy for stoking the fire.

I agree. The banter is awesome !!

If I can figure out Tapatalk I may find myself on here a little more, BJJ. I just can handle the website on my iPad. I can literally feel the heat on this thing rise in my hands.


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[Micah Prescott]

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. “Almost” winning is still losing. Those numbers are empty in my book.

Give me a guy like Troy Aikman who’s numbers look very pedestrian today but he was super clutch in playoff games and has 3 rings. I’d take that over great numbers and no significant playoff success.

So if the refs give Dez the catch and the Cowboys win somehow NOW that means Romo was "clutch"?

You are seriously incapable of seeing the glaringly obvious flaw in that logic?

You HAVE to ignore the score when judging 1 player on a 53 man team. Simple as that.

Also Aikman himself says Romo is better than him. Give Romo Aikman's roster and Romo might have 4 rings.

Yes if Romo is somehow able to win that game and advance to the NFC title game it looks better for him. He didn’t though. He lost, like he always did. That’s his legacy like it or not.

Wrong Tony Romo didn't lose.

The Dallas Cowboys lost

That's reality like it or not.

Tony should be judged on how HE played as an individual. Not on how the team as a whole finished.

THE SAME WAY YOU JUDGE EVERY OTHER POSITION

[Micah Prescott]

Tony put up a 143.6 rating that game, did everything he could to win, and ultimately other things that were not in his control cost Dallas the game.

Tony did what he had to do... when everything was on the line.

That's how you should look at it because that's what happened.

[Micah Prescott]

Is Barry Sanders a choker? He could never win a big game.

[Micah Prescott]

"I think Tony already is a better quarterback than I was," Aikman told the Brownsville Herald while in the South Texas town Tuesday for a Wingstop publicity event. "I know how quarterbacks are judged, but as far as his play-making ability and the things that he is capable of doing, he is a far more athletic quarterback, capable of making more plays than I ever was able to."

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4691075/troy-aikman-tony-romo-better-than-i-was

[Otis Driftwood]

You should slip on your Romo PJ’s, snuggle up into your Romo blanket and call it a night, Bro.


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[Micah Prescott]

You should slip on your Romo PJ’s, snuggle up into your Romo blanket and call it a night, Bro.


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My Romo PJs look so much better than your Eli PJs.

[Mr B]

We haven’t had this much action around here in years! Props to the new guy for stoking the fire.

I agree. The banter is awesome !!

If I can figure out Tapatalk I may find myself on here a little more, BJJ. I just can handle the website on my iPad. I can literally feel the heat on this thing rise in my hands.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Have you tried using it from your phone? I use Tapatalk on my iPhone and I don’t see any adds. Well maybe once in a while I will see one but almost never.