Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread

Moderators: Inigo Montoya, FJS

AingesBurner
RealGM
Posts: 15,249
And1: 3,906
Joined: Jan 18, 2013
   

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#221 » by AingesBurner » Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:37 pm

Crunch 99 wrote:
GobertReport wrote:
I think you really have to look at trading Ingles now, yes great locker room guy but we have plenty of those. What he does is replaceable, he's on an expiring contract with thoughts towards retirement, and if he doesn't retire, is he going to take what he's worth, 5 mill per year?


You might be right. Fortunately, I expect Ainge, and probably DWade too, can give Ingles and all of our players a professional dispassionate evaluation unencumbered by sentiment and emotion that I have as a long time fan. Would be a great story if Ingles won a championship here though. :biggrin:


My only solution with Ingles and staying on the team is tell him you’re trading him and if he retires, he can immediately join the coaching staff and still have his presence, obviously if that is legal with the CBA.
Ingles is cooked.
User avatar
tugs
RealGM
Posts: 16,901
And1: 3,001
Joined: Jul 22, 2010

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#222 » by tugs » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:00 pm

If not, try and sign waived guys?

Danuel House was once regarded as a solid 3&D that can play the 4 as well. I feel he's a victim of the youth movement in Houston.

Worth signing?
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,282
And1: 17,751
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#223 » by babyjax13 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:19 am

I'd waive Hughes and sign House and call it a day. If he isn't a useful player by the trade deadline and we still need perimeter defense, then we can think about another deal.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,064
And1: 8,343
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#224 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:46 pm

If we're interested in wing defense and don't care about offensive output, Stanley Johnson can be picked out from the d-league.
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
D Rog
Junior
Posts: 304
And1: 92
Joined: Dec 20, 2018
   

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#225 » by D Rog » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:06 pm

Damn!! Ever since they hired Ainge, the Jazz have a losing record.

Somebody had to say it :banghead:

For all of you BYU fans or D. Ainge Fans that is SARCASM
Catchall
RealGM
Posts: 20,516
And1: 11,092
Joined: Jul 06, 2008
     

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#226 » by Catchall » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:48 am

Jazz are 0-3 when they rest Mike Conley. In these games, the Jazz have relied on Jordan Clarkson to provide more offense and instead he's stunk it up. That was the case in Chicago, Orlando and now at home against Washington. Clarkson was 1-10 from 3pt last night. He's now shooting 30% from 3pt for the season, same % as Eric Paschall.
User avatar
tugs
RealGM
Posts: 16,901
And1: 3,001
Joined: Jul 22, 2010

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#227 » by tugs » Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:48 am

What if JC shifts to more of a PG role and start then Joe can focus on playing with Gay and Hassan?
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,282
And1: 17,751
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#228 » by babyjax13 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:05 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:If we're interested in wing defense and don't care about offensive output, Stanley Johnson can be picked out from the d-league.

House hits open threes a la Royce, Johnson has never been able to. Not that I'd be against signing Johnson. I'm a fan of making a small move now, seeing what it does, and if it is not enough, make a larger move at the trade deadline.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
kamazilla
Senior
Posts: 631
And1: 65
Joined: Apr 10, 2009

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#229 » by kamazilla » Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:55 pm

What happened to the traditional pre-Christmas extended road trip the Jazz used to make every year? Now they're stuck in the holiday morass and being taken advantage of by scrappier teams instead of taking advantage like they once did.
D Rog
Junior
Posts: 304
And1: 92
Joined: Dec 20, 2018
   

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#230 » by D Rog » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:17 pm

kamazilla wrote:What happened to the traditional pre-Christmas extended road trip the Jazz used to make every year? Now they're stuck in the holiday morass and being taken advantage of by scrappier teams instead of taking advantage like they once did.


That goes back to when the Millers owned the team and Jerry Sloan coached the team. I think they said the arena was booked for Holiday on Ice or something. I believe then next couple GMs followed that strategy but things change.
Crunch 99
General Manager
Posts: 7,862
And1: 3,862
Joined: Jan 05, 2017
 

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#231 » by Crunch 99 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:24 pm

TNJazz wrote:Im hoping Q's next development for JC is exactly what you state Crunch, assist hunting. Imagine how lethal he would be if he were as feared for his ability to get 5-6 assists pregame as well as get his quick hitter points. Agree, his defense has improved and the eye test says his rebounding has as well. His role of instant offense off the bench is super valuable and is what won him the 6th man award last year, but every year, players say they need to improve an aspect of their game. Assists, combined with his ability to microwave shoot, would be a major scouting headache for opposing teams.


Clarkson has 16 assists over the last three games and has me somewhat hopeful. I think he has the talent and experience to pretty easily average 4 or more assists per game rather than the disappointing 2.4 apg where he is now. Go Clarkson!
User avatar
tugs
RealGM
Posts: 16,901
And1: 3,001
Joined: Jul 22, 2010

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#232 » by tugs » Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:46 pm

JC should be better when Donovan is back. Limited minutes should be helpful for him to go all out in spurts rather than ration his energy all throughout the game, although I rarely see him get tired

The key has been less threes and getting aggressive going to the basket
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,282
And1: 17,751
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Fresno, eating Birria
     

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#233 » by babyjax13 » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:28 am

We only have Memphis 2nd round pick this season, but people are mocking Allen Flannigan in the second round because of his injury. I think he is a lottery level talent, would love to snag him.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,064
And1: 8,343
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#234 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun Jan 2, 2022 2:32 pm

I've been thinking for a long time now to write a huge boring post about why I'm not watching games anymore, but aparantly there is a new thread on the General Board that covers a lot of my issues, so I'll just link it here and save everyone the effort of reading a very long post by yours truly.

I used to watch the NBA. I don't anymore.
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2152134
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
Crunch 99
General Manager
Posts: 7,862
And1: 3,862
Joined: Jan 05, 2017
 

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#235 » by Crunch 99 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:41 pm

The Jazz climbed one spot to number two in this week's NBA.com power rankings, even though they lost to the Warriors Saturday.

Power Rankings, Week 12: Warriors hold No. 1 spot as Bulls return to Top 5
https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2021-22-week-12
Crunch 99
General Manager
Posts: 7,862
And1: 3,862
Joined: Jan 05, 2017
 

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#236 » by Crunch 99 » Mon Jan 3, 2022 8:49 pm

We've got a small sample of our small ball lineup led by Rudy Gay at center, just 44 mins, but here are the stats so far. I think there is a chance the small ball lineup gets better with experience, but as soon as Whiteside gets off the injury list, I expect Whiteside to get nearly all the Gobert backup minutes.

Playing Rudy Gay and Paschall together in the small ball lineup might improve the small ball lineup's defense.

https://www.nba.com/stats/impact/#!?LineupIDs=200752&VsLineupIDs=202355~203497~1629672&TeamID=1610612762&VsTeamID=1610612762&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals&Season=2021-22
User avatar
Inigo Montoya
Forum Mod - Jazz
Forum Mod - Jazz
Posts: 17,064
And1: 8,343
Joined: May 31, 2012

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#237 » by Inigo Montoya » Wed Jan 5, 2022 3:44 pm

I think Babyjax13 called it:

Jazz Plan To Sign Danuel House To 10-Day Contract
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265326/Jazz-Plan-To-Sign-Danuel-House-To-10-Day-Contract
Draft Nate Wolters - FAILED
Keep Nate Wolters - FAILED
Image
KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

The real decision the Jazz FO is making is between Continuity, Cap Flexibility, and Cash Considerations.
AingesBurner
RealGM
Posts: 15,249
And1: 3,906
Joined: Jan 18, 2013
   

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#238 » by AingesBurner » Wed Jan 5, 2022 5:32 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:I think Babyjax13 called it:

Jazz Plan To Sign Danuel House To 10-Day Contract
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265326/Jazz-Plan-To-Sign-Danuel-House-To-10-Day-Contract


You’re probably right and so was he, if this is the big move, I’m not really a fan of the non needle moving moves.
Ingles is cooked.
User avatar
tugs
RealGM
Posts: 16,901
And1: 3,001
Joined: Jul 22, 2010

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#239 » by tugs » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:40 am

WOW THEY GOT HOUSE!
User avatar
tugs
RealGM
Posts: 16,901
And1: 3,001
Joined: Jul 22, 2010

Re: Official 2021-2022 Utah Jazz Season Discussion Thread 

Post#240 » by tugs » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:41 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:I think Babyjax13 called it:

Jazz Plan To Sign Danuel House To 10-Day Contract
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265326/Jazz-Plan-To-Sign-Danuel-House-To-10-Day-Contract
Don't want to take credit, but I can share lol

Return to Utah Jazz