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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#61 » by draftnightsuit » Thu Jan 6, 2022 12:19 am

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Lalouie wrote:this is not low IQ

this is the result of analytics and how it has undermined the way the game has evolved. this here quickley shot is merely an exagerration of what you see COUNTLESS times with any given game, ie the taking of the 3pt shot when a team is 1-ahead, 2- behind by 1, 3- behind by 2, 3- or tied, or taking the 3 on a fast break...and most eggregiously as the last shot

the rules are developing and encouraging stupidity and players will adapt and evolve on it...highly developed stupid players


stop. Any analytics person would tell you a layup or fts are better than a turnaround fade away, especially on a 2v1 fast break.

This play is anti analytics if anything.


Then why do players run to the 3 point line on fast breaks now? Don't make me pull up the Denver clip where all 5 guys ran to the 3 point line when they could have won the game with a layup lol.


One clip is supposed to prove a point? So if I post a clip of Shaq shooting FTs then it means all 90s players are terrible FT shooters?
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#62 » by Clyde Frazier » Thu Jan 6, 2022 12:55 am

Definitely an unnatural looking play, but obi waited way too long to pass the ball. Quickley just isn't that kinda finisher inside at this point in his career. Something he definitely has to work on.
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Post#63 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Jan 6, 2022 12:59 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:
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stop. Any analytics person would tell you a layup or fts are better than a turnaround fade away, especially on a 2v1 fast break.

This play is anti analytics if anything.


Then why do players run to the 3 point line on fast breaks now? Don't make me pull up the Denver clip where all 5 guys ran to the 3 point line when they could have won the game with a layup lol.


One clip is supposed to prove a point? So if I post a clip of Shaq shooting FTs then it means all 90s players are terrible FT shooters?


You clearly aren't watching enough basketball if you don't see players run straight to the 3 point line on man advantage fast breaks. This has been happening far too often and many have expressed this before, not just now.

As a raptor fan, our guys struggling running a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2 fast break. It's pathetic actually lol.
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#64 » by draftnightsuit » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:04 am

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Then why do players run to the 3 point line on fast breaks now? Don't make me pull up the Denver clip where all 5 guys ran to the 3 point line when they could have won the game with a layup lol.


One clip is supposed to prove a point? So if I post a clip of Shaq shooting FTs then it means all 90s players are terrible FT shooters?


You clearly aren't watching enough basketball if you don't see players run straight to the 3 point line on man advantage fast breaks. This has been happening far too often and many have expressed this before, not just now.

As a raptor fan, our guys struggling running a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2 fast break. It's pathetic actually lol.


You’re supposed to run to the three point line on fast breaks. It’s called a transition 3. There are only 3 types of shots that should be taken on fast breaks: layups, dunks, and 3s.

That’s kinda the point of running a fast break.
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#65 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:23 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
One clip is supposed to prove a point? So if I post a clip of Shaq shooting FTs then it means all 90s players are terrible FT shooters?


You clearly aren't watching enough basketball if you don't see players run straight to the 3 point line on man advantage fast breaks. This has been happening far too often and many have expressed this before, not just now.

As a raptor fan, our guys struggling running a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2 fast break. It's pathetic actually lol.


You’re supposed to run to the three point line on fast breaks. It’s called a transition 3. There are only 3 types of shots that should be taken on fast breaks: layups, dunks, and 3s.

That’s kinda the point of running a fast break.


That's exactly the point though... you should be able to get layups almost every time if you run a 3 on 2 or a 2 on 1 fast break properly.

You have scrubs who can't even shoot 3s at a high clip thinking they're Klay/Steph out there.
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#66 » by draftnightsuit » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:29 am

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draftnightsuit wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
You clearly aren't watching enough basketball if you don't see players run straight to the 3 point line on man advantage fast breaks. This has been happening far too often and many have expressed this before, not just now.

As a raptor fan, our guys struggling running a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2 fast break. It's pathetic actually lol.


You’re supposed to run to the three point line on fast breaks. It’s called a transition 3. There are only 3 types of shots that should be taken on fast breaks: layups, dunks, and 3s.

That’s kinda the point of running a fast break.


That's exactly the point though... you should be able to get layups almost every time if you run a 3 on 2 or a 2 on 1 fast break.

You have scrubs who can't even shoot 3s at a high clip thinking they're Klay/Steph out there.


No you don’t. A layup is not always the best shot to take. An open 3 is better than a contested layup. You want the best possible shot. If the defense commits then kick it out. You don’t just shoot a layup for the sake of shooting a layup.
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Post#67 » by GameOver25 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:35 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
One clip is supposed to prove a point? So if I post a clip of Shaq shooting FTs then it means all 90s players are terrible FT shooters?


You clearly aren't watching enough basketball if you don't see players run straight to the 3 point line on man advantage fast breaks. This has been happening far too often and many have expressed this before, not just now.

As a raptor fan, our guys struggling running a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2 fast break. It's pathetic actually lol.


You’re supposed to run to the three point line on fast breaks. It’s called a transition 3. There are only 3 types of shots that should be taken on fast breaks: layups, dunks, and 3s.

That’s kinda the point of running a fast break.


So on a 2 on 1 fastbreak, you're "supposed" to run to the 3pt line? Why because analytics says 3>2. Again keep in mind a 2 on 1 fastbreak and you have a clear advantage for a layup (at worst foul call) if "executed" correctly. You are not worth debating if that's how you're programmed to think about a fastbreak execution. Agree to disagree. You can say this all you want it's just bad basketball that has been accepted.
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#68 » by draftnightsuit » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:42 am

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draftnightsuit wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
You clearly aren't watching enough basketball if you don't see players run straight to the 3 point line on man advantage fast breaks. This has been happening far too often and many have expressed this before, not just now.

As a raptor fan, our guys struggling running a 2 on 1 or a 3 on 2 fast break. It's pathetic actually lol.


You’re supposed to run to the three point line on fast breaks. It’s called a transition 3. There are only 3 types of shots that should be taken on fast breaks: layups, dunks, and 3s.

That’s kinda the point of running a fast break.


So on a 2 on 1 fastbreak, you're "supposed" to run to the 3pt line? Why because analytics says 3>2. Again keep in mind a 2 on 1 fastbreak and you have a clear advantage for a layup (at worst foul call) if "executed" correctly. You are not worth debating if that's how you're programmed to think about a fastbreak execution. Agree to disagree. You can say this all you want it's just bad basketball that has been accepted.


No. In a 2 on 1 fast break you’re supposed to pass the ball to your teammate, who makes the defense commit, and then passes the ball back to you for a layup or dunk.

Toppin waited too long to pass the ball. He’s the one that botched the fast break, not IQ. The problem here isn’t the 3 point shot.

The fact that so many people are missing this goes to show that most people can’t even identify what “bad basketball” is when they see it.
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Post#69 » by Knicks Byke » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:45 am

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Post#70 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:46 am

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GameOver25 wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
You’re supposed to run to the three point line on fast breaks. It’s called a transition 3. There are only 3 types of shots that should be taken on fast breaks: layups, dunks, and 3s.

That’s kinda the point of running a fast break.


So on a 2 on 1 fastbreak, you're "supposed" to run to the 3pt line? Why because analytics says 3>2. Again keep in mind a 2 on 1 fastbreak and you have a clear advantage for a layup (at worst foul call) if "executed" correctly. You are not worth debating if that's how you're programmed to think about a fastbreak execution. Agree to disagree. You can say this all you want it's just bad basketball that has been accepted.


No. In a 2 on 1 fast break you’re supposed to pass the ball to your teammate, who makes the defense commit, and then passes the ball back to you for a layup or dunk.

Toppin waited too long to pass the ball. He’s the one that botched the fast break, not IQ. The problem here isn’t the 3 point shot.

The fact that so many people are missing this goes to show that most people can’t even identify what “bad basketball” is when they see it.


I think most would agree that Toppin screwed up that fast break with the late pass but if you don't think Quicklys shot was just stupid, you are part of the problem lol.
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#71 » by Golden Knight » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:49 am

Now that's a step-baaaack 3.
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Post#72 » by draftnightsuit » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:51 am

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So on a 2 on 1 fastbreak, you're "supposed" to run to the 3pt line? Why because analytics says 3>2. Again keep in mind a 2 on 1 fastbreak and you have a clear advantage for a layup (at worst foul call) if "executed" correctly. You are not worth debating if that's how you're programmed to think about a fastbreak execution. Agree to disagree. You can say this all you want it's just bad basketball that has been accepted.


No. In a 2 on 1 fast break you’re supposed to pass the ball to your teammate, who makes the defense commit, and then passes the ball back to you for a layup or dunk.

Toppin waited too long to pass the ball. He’s the one that botched the fast break, not IQ. The problem here isn’t the 3 point shot.

The fact that so many people are missing this goes to show that most people can’t even identify what “bad basketball” is when they see it.


I think most would agree that Toppin screwed up that fast break with the late pass but if you don't think Quicklys shot was just stupid, you are part of the problem lol.


Quickly’s shot was stupid. It also wouldn’t have been taken if Toppin didn’t botch the fast break. Almost nobody is blaming Toppin though, which tells you what you need to know.
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#73 » by Knicks Byke » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:51 am

Golden Knight wrote:Now that's a step-baaaack 3.


more like a step back in his development :lol:
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Re: immanuel quickley, low IQ (pun intended) 

Post#74 » by Knicks Byke » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:52 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
No. In a 2 on 1 fast break you’re supposed to pass the ball to your teammate, who makes the defense commit, and then passes the ball back to you for a layup or dunk.

Toppin waited too long to pass the ball. He’s the one that botched the fast break, not IQ. The problem here isn’t the 3 point shot.

The fact that so many people are missing this goes to show that most people can’t even identify what “bad basketball” is when they see it.


I think most would agree that Toppin screwed up that fast break with the late pass but if you don't think Quicklys shot was just stupid, you are part of the problem lol.


Quickly’s shot was stupid. It also wouldn’t have been taken if Toppin didn’t botch the fast break. Almost nobody is blaming Toppin though, which tells you what you need to know.


In fairness, IQ probably thought his layup would be blocked. Still, bad possession all around.
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Post#75 » by GameOver25 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:54 am

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GameOver25 wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
You’re supposed to run to the three point line on fast breaks. It’s called a transition 3. There are only 3 types of shots that should be taken on fast breaks: layups, dunks, and 3s.

That’s kinda the point of running a fast break.


So on a 2 on 1 fastbreak, you're "supposed" to run to the 3pt line? Why because analytics says 3>2. Again keep in mind a 2 on 1 fastbreak and you have a clear advantage for a layup (at worst foul call) if "executed" correctly. You are not worth debating if that's how you're programmed to think about a fastbreak execution. Agree to disagree. You can say this all you want it's just bad basketball that has been accepted.


No. In a 2 on 1 fast break you’re supposed to pass the ball to your teammate, who makes the defense commit, and then passes the ball back to you for a layup or dunk.

Toppin waited too long to pass the ball. He’s the one that botched the fast break, not IQ. The problem here isn’t the 3 point shot.

The fact that so many people are missing this goes to show that most people can’t even identify what “bad basketball” is when they see it.


Whatever, that's not what you said, I know this is a Quickley thread, but you clearly said "You're supposed to run to the three point link on fastbreaks". So I questioned you 2on1 fastbreak scenario. Again this thread is about Quickley so maybe that's where your mind was set.

Point still stands way to many games where guys execute fastbreaks poorly and they run to the 3pt because it's accepted and not a point of emphasis.
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Post#76 » by DirtybirdGA » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:55 am

The pun made me smile.
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Post#77 » by JulesWinnfield » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:58 am

I was there. Knicks improved to 10-0 in my life when attending a game :lol: . Granted the last time I went before yesterday Latrell Sprewell and Allan Houston were still on the team, so I avoided several certain losses during the dismal last couple decades. I’m going again on Monday though against San Antonio. If the Knicks board wants to chip in and get me a couple season tickets I could right this ship
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Post#78 » by Optms » Thu Jan 6, 2022 2:02 am

This entire era of basketball is a giant meme and this play right here is the peak of it.
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Post#79 » by Frank Dux » Thu Jan 6, 2022 2:09 am

He should be sent down to the G League for a that alone.
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Post#80 » by draftnightsuit » Thu Jan 6, 2022 2:12 am

GameOver25 wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
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So on a 2 on 1 fastbreak, you're "supposed" to run to the 3pt line? Why because analytics says 3>2. Again keep in mind a 2 on 1 fastbreak and you have a clear advantage for a layup (at worst foul call) if "executed" correctly. You are not worth debating if that's how you're programmed to think about a fastbreak execution. Agree to disagree. You can say this all you want it's just bad basketball that has been accepted.


No. In a 2 on 1 fast break you’re supposed to pass the ball to your teammate, who makes the defense commit, and then passes the ball back to you for a layup or dunk.

Toppin waited too long to pass the ball. He’s the one that botched the fast break, not IQ. The problem here isn’t the 3 point shot.

The fact that so many people are missing this goes to show that most people can’t even identify what “bad basketball” is when they see it.


Whatever, that's not what you said, I know this is a Quickley thread, but you clearly said "You're supposed to run to the three point link on fastbreaks". So I questioned you 2on1 fastbreak scenario. Again this thread is about Quickley so maybe that's where your mind was set.

Point still stands way to many games where guys execute fastbreaks poorly and they run to the 3pt because it's accepted and not a point of emphasis.


I clearly said that fast breaks are supposed to lead to 3 types of shots: layups, dunks, and 3 pointers.

I was responding to a guy who thinks that no player should ever be at the 3 point line in any fast break. I had to inform him on what a transition 3 is.

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