Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[Madhouse]

He just refused to attack mamu or nwora but most of all his defence was just bad. Rookie game from him but this team will never get anywhere if he refuses to be aggressive.

He's the 5th option bro, too many shoot first guys on our team. If we really want him to shine we have to get rid of a few guys, Thai will happen in the future, and Barnes will be handed the keys.

Not sure what everyone expects.

Barnes is hurt, the 5th option, playing a position he can't really play but has to because the Raptors have no reliable 2nd ball handler or PG and is going to be cold most of the games because he won't get shots and will then criticized because he makes mistakes towards the end of the game due to being out of rhythm. Barnes knows where he is in the pecking order now and will lose confidence.

Barnes is going to struggle for the rest of the season in this position.

[DreamTeam09]

He just refused to attack mamu or nwora but most of all his defence was just bad. Rookie game from him but this team will never get anywhere if he refuses to be aggressive.

He doesn't refuse to do anything he just doesn't uave the ability to go at them in the way we'd like. He doesn't have that explosiveness thay will allow him to blow by mismatches.

He's never gonna be a blow by player, even when he's healthy he bullies his defender or puts them on shakes with his handle, you say that like it's a liability. Plenty of scorers out there without a mean first step

[Yeezus_]

People think his development is being hindered now? I’d argue that a game like today is great for his development. The game was physical, defense tightened up at the end of the 4th. He made some mistakes with the ball in his hands and defensively. He’ll grow from those mistakes. He doesn’t need to take 18 shots in his rookie year to develop. Not that many superstars actually shoot more than like 12fga per game. Barnes will find the balance between being aggressive to score vs. playmaking in this role. Thats also development.

[Madhouse]

People think his development is being hindered now? I’d argue that a game like today is great for his development. The game was physical, defense tightened up at the end of the 4th. He made some mistakes with the ball in his hands and defensively. He’ll grow from those mistakes. He doesn’t need to take 18 shots in his rookie year to develop. Not that many superstars actually shoot more than like 12fga per game. Barnes will find the balance between being aggressive to score vs. playmaking in this role. Thats also development.

No idea if it's hindering or not but he is going to struggle in this role. He isn't made for that role and will commit a ton of turnovers.

[Los_29]

People a lot smarter than us think Scottie is being developed perfectly. The team knows what they are doing. Tonight highlighted why he's our 5th option. There are four guys on offense that are clearly better. Scottie will get there though.

[Boogie!]

He just refused to attack mamu or nwora but most of all his defence was just bad. Rookie game from him but this team will never get anywhere if he refuses to be aggressive.

He doesn't refuse to do anything he just doesn't uave the ability to go at them in the way we'd like. He doesn't have that explosiveness thay will allow him to blow by mismatches.

He's never gonna be a blow by player, even when he's healthy he bullies his defender or puts them on shakes with his handle, you say that like it's a liability. Plenty of scorers out there without a mean first step

It's not q liability but it's 100 percent a limitation. His handle us not elite so the fact that he doesn't have an explosive first step or explosive athleticism means he's gonna have to develop an elite shot or some sort of go to unstoppable move if he wants to be q star In the league.

Idk whycpeople just can't acknowledge limitations as such. This is not me shutting on Barnes, its being an objective observer.

[vulture]

People a lot smarter than us think Scottie is being developed perfectly. The team knows what they are doing. Tonight highlighted why he's our 5th option. There are four guys on offense that are clearly better. Scottie will get there though.

No doubt the raptors are really good at developing guys and Scottie will be good in the long run.
Tonight was just a bad game for him but I also worry that he will revert back to not shooting and he won’t get guarded at all. Bucks started doing that in the second half.

[anotherhomer]

barnes is being exposed to different types of roles, in a high level game

If nurse thinks he's ready for a full-time scoring role, he'll get his chance.

[Badonkadonk]

Beautiful 2-man game from two bigger dudes with great court vision

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[Madhouse]

People a lot smarter than us think Scottie is being developed perfectly. The team knows what they are doing. Tonight highlighted why he's our 5th option. There are four guys on offense that are clearly better. Scottie will get there though.

No doubt the raptors are really good at developing guys and Scottie will be good in the long run.
Tonight was just a bad game for him but I also worry that he will revert back to not shooting and he won’t get guarded at all. Bucks started doing that in the second half.

He will definitely revert back to that due to not being involved/being the 5th option and out of rhythm and the few shots he will take, he will miss. He will look a lot like Kyle Anderson

[microjacklin]

I think these two game is really a good lesson for Scottie/us if he capable to play PG in NBA,
No Banton, No Flynn , He's official our backup main ball handler right now.
Skill wise, he's clearly not that level, but hope he can learn where to improve if he want to be play like his idol: Magic Johnson

Don't really care the state drop, it's still Pascal/FVV/OG team right now,
If these three can't bring us deep in the playoff in these two year
then that's the time for trade and let Scottie or someone to take it over.

[hype_2004]

People a lot smarter than us think Scottie is being developed perfectly. The team knows what they are doing. Tonight highlighted why he's our 5th option. There are four guys on offense that are clearly better. Scottie will get there though.

Nope I don't agree, Barnes does alot of things similar to what Pascal and OG does and can do it better with repetition and touches, don't forget he's a 5th option, FIFTH.

[hype_2004]

I think these two game is really a good lesson for Scottie/us if he capable to play PG in NBA,
No Banton, No Flynn , He's official our backup main ball handler right now.
Skill wise, he's clearly not that level, but hope he can learn where to improve if he want to be play like his idol: Magic Johnson

Don't really care the state drop, it's still Pascal/FVV/OG team right now,
If these three can't bring us deep in the playoff in these two year
then that's the time for trade and let Scottie or someone to take it over.

Eventually that's what's going to happen, Barnes will be handed the keys, this is a developmental year and he's way ahead.

[God Squad]

Bruh 6 shot attempts? GTJ gets 17? smfh

[HumbleRen]

I think his lack of burst has been the most disappointing thing about him. He looked way more explosive in College and HS. Might be a lingering injury because even his gait is all weird and wacky.

[brownbobcat]

It's not q liability but it's 100 percent a limitation. His handle us not elite so the fact that he doesn't have an explosive first step or explosive athleticism means he's gonna have to develop an elite shot or some sort of go to unstoppable move if he wants to be q star In the league.

Idk whycpeople just can't acknowledge limitations as such. This is not me shutting on Barnes, its being an objective observer.

I think the point is that he already has other ways to attack larger defenders without relying on pure explosiveness to get by. He can't do it at an elite level yet of course, but all players have limitations.

[Jtoneller1]

I think his lack of burst has been the most disappointing thing about him. He looked way more explosive in College and HS. Might be a lingering injury because even his gait is all weird and wacky.

It looks like his knee is really affecting him the last couple games. He's visibility limping up and down the court and looks like he's trying to protect it when fighting through screens defensively.

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[Madhouse]

People a lot smarter than us think Scottie is being developed perfectly. The team knows what they are doing. Tonight highlighted why he's our 5th option. There are four guys on offense that are clearly better. Scottie will get there though.

This has nothing to do with being smarter. They relying on the vets on offense and due to Banton and Flynn not being or ready or simply not being good they are trying out Barnes at PG where he won't succeed and turn the ball over.

They want to win games ultimately.

[Madhouse]

I think his lack of burst has been the most disappointing thing about him. He looked way more explosive in College and HS. Might be a lingering injury because even his gait is all weird and wacky.

It looks like his knee is really affecting him the last couple games. He's visibility limping up and down the court and looks like he's trying to protect it when fighting through screens defensively.

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He is definitely injured. Hand, knee and now hip. The question is why is he playing?

[Madhouse]

Bruh 6 shot attempts? GTJ gets 17? smfh

He is gonna be Kyle Anderson for the Raptors. Not many shot attempts going forward. The talk by Nurse will look funny.