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2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#941 » by Morris_Shatford » Wed Jan 5, 2022 3:47 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Tyus Jones remains on my wish list. Exactly the type of player we need coming off the bench right now.


Depending on how the draft goes and how we address the five;
Jones who is a UFA is the type of guy you maybe consider chasing with some of the MLE?
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

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Post#943 » by douggood » Wed Jan 5, 2022 4:54 pm

wording seems to be wrong, they want a two for one trade, (consolidate), not a one-for-two trade (add depth)

isnt that the generally accepted lexicon

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Post#944 » by Bruin » Wed Jan 5, 2022 5:29 pm

douggood wrote:wording seems to be wrong, they want a two for one trade, (consolidate), not a one-for-two trade (add depth)

isnt that the generally accepted lexicon

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Yea I think so. I had the same original thought
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Post#945 » by youreachiteach » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:20 pm

My thought is probably an obvious one but here goes:

Dragic and a first for:

Eric Gordon--saves Houston money--Gordon barely plays for them and is locked in for 2 more years. We will not be able to get a caliber of player like him in free agency. We don't really need more youngsters to develop right now.

#2 Dragic and Boucher for:

Caris Levert, Torrey Craig and Brissett. Again, saves Indy some money and provides them with some depth to deal one of their other bigs for value. Caris gives us the bench scorer we need to actually start a point guard so Barnes doesn't have to do that, too. Having a facilitator wing (as average as Levert is at it) allows for us to let Banton play. Craig and Brissett plug and play as needed.

#3 Dragic and Boucher plus a first for:

Galinari and Reddish. Saves Atlanta money and provides them with a bit more spacing with their bigs. No, it's not the big power move they want but provides another lottery kick at the cat. We get the backup two who can replace GTJ when he jets in two years. Galinari helps the bench score.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#946 » by Ell Curry » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:21 pm

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Ell Curry wrote:I could see the Pacers trying to open up cap space by trading us Dragic for Levert and then moving Justin Holiday and/or Torrey Craig to teams for a UFA, maybe Kevin Knox on the Knicks, or Thomas Bryant on the Wizards or Tristan Thompson on the Kings. They would get up to 25M in cap space with moves like that and be able to sign or trade for the starting 3 they need.


LeVerts value is tough to calculate (especially given his recent play);

Ultimately he is an injury prone volume shooter BUT he need some offense off the bench and we need to add some salary to next seasons payroll to assure we have the ability to use the MLE and sign our FRP but have bigger expirings that we can move if need be.

Assuming Boucher is not retained (or not for the same salary) even having LeVert on the books should allow us to do all the things we need to by way of the MLE and still stay under the tax.

Its not ideal, I would sooner take on a similar contract with some compensation along with it for taking on next years salary for player X but if its the best that can be done, I don't hate it.


I just don't think teams are going to give up a first for cap space or relief with so little free agent talent out there. Contracts are so short now that the list of overpaid players is too small.

But yeah, I could see us trading Boucher for an expiring and a 2nd rounder then moving that 2nd rounder with Dragic for Levert. Keeps open the possibility of a trade next year and gives us a bench scorer.

Basically, we need 2 more rotation players. A perimeter playmaker/scorer and a starting center. We have draft picks to either try to select one or use in a trade for one. The only guy I could really see us using a first on in a trade and going for is DeAaron Fox. Or maybe we don't give up a first and take on a big deal like if we did Dragic, Birch and Boucher for CJ McCollum so Portland can save 30M a year and recalibrate things.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#947 » by Ell Curry » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:27 pm

youreachiteach wrote:My thought is probably an obvious one but here goes:

Dragic and a first for:

Eric Gordon--saves Houston money--Gordon barely plays for them and is locked in for 2 more years. We will not be able to get a caliber of player like him in free agency. We don't really need more youngsters to develop right now.

#2 Dragic and Boucher for:

Caris Levert, Torrey Craig and Brissett. Again, saves Indy some money and provides them with some depth to deal one of their other bigs for value. Caris gives us the bench scorer we need to actually start a point guard so Barnes doesn't have to do that, too. Having a facilitator wing (as average as Levert is at it) allows for us to let Banton play. Craig and Brissett plug and play as needed.

#3 Dragic and Boucher plus a first for:

Galinari and Reddish. Saves Atlanta money and provides them with a bit more spacing with their bigs. No, it's not the big power move they want but provides another lottery kick at the cat. We get the backup two who can replace GTJ when he jets in two years. Galinari helps the bench score.


I would be shocked if we gave up a first for Gordon.

A first for Reddish, that I could see. Schenk is openly displeased with how they're playing on D and he can eventually use the first first in the big deal they'll probably do one day.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#948 » by Madhouse » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:30 pm

douggood wrote:wording seems to be wrong, they want a two for one trade, (consolidate), not a one-for-two trade (add depth)

isnt that the generally accepted lexicon

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I wouldn't touch Reddish unless you can get him for really cheap. He has objectively really struggled so far.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#949 » by youreachiteach » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:32 pm

The price for veteran help at the deadline is often a first--as injury prone and expensive as Gordon is. Masai is quite the negotiator though--we'll see! I'd love to get him for Dragic alone.

I am very enamored of Reddish. He looks fantastic and seems to play hard --even hurt(at least on the offensive end). This is my favorite trade but I think probably unlikely given Atlanta's desire for a big piece.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#950 » by youreachiteach » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:36 pm

Madhouse wrote:
douggood wrote:wording seems to be wrong, they want a two for one trade, (consolidate), not a one-for-two trade (add depth)

isnt that the generally accepted lexicon

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I wouldn't touch Reddish unless you can get him for really cheap. He has objectively really struggled so far.


Perhaps statistically, but I've watched a lot of Atlanta games on league pass this year and every time I look I see something I like. He makes mistakes but he plays really hard and has a great skill-set. He would be so much better in our developmental program.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#951 » by Bruin » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:44 pm

Madhouse wrote:
douggood wrote:wording seems to be wrong, they want a two for one trade, (consolidate), not a one-for-two trade (add depth)

isnt that the generally accepted lexicon

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I wouldn't touch Reddish unless you can get him for really cheap. He has objectively really struggled so far.

He’s been inconsistent but in a stretch of games where the Hawks got destroyed by Covid, he had some really nice performances

As long as we don’t give up a 1st, I’d be cool to make a move for him
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#952 » by Madhouse » Wed Jan 5, 2022 10:51 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
douggood wrote:wording seems to be wrong, they want a two for one trade, (consolidate), not a one-for-two trade (add depth)

isnt that the generally accepted lexicon



I wouldn't touch Reddish unless you can get him for really cheap. He has objectively really struggled so far.

He’s been inconsistent but in a stretch of games where the Hawks got destroyed by Covid, he had some really nice performances

As long as we don’t give up a 1st, I’d be cool to make a move for him
He has been hitting the 3 ball well, so that's good. His on/off numbers are very concerning however and his defense seems to be not there. But maybe he could buy into the Nurse system and play defense like Gary. He has a lot more potential than Yuta and Svi.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#953 » by Ell Curry » Wed Jan 5, 2022 11:26 pm

I wonder if the Lakers would do Kendrick Nunn or Monk and Deandre Jordan for Boucher? We'd get a scoring guard to play in the backcourt with Scottie in the 2nd unit and the Lakers could really use a big if AD is going to miss a couple games in a crucial playoff series, and Westbrook, Bradley and one of Nunn/Monk is the backcourt minutes covered.

Or maybe a 3 way deal with Boucher to a 3rd team, like to the Pacers for Justin Holiday. Pacers save 6M next year and the Lakers get someone who can guard big 2s and some 3s.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#954 » by TheRaptor! » Thu Jan 6, 2022 1:52 am

u telling me a guy like Lance Stephenson cant help this team if we are looking to win rather than develop?
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#955 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 2:05 am

TheRaptor! wrote:u telling me a guy like Lance Stephenson cant help this team if we are looking to win rather than develop?


maybe if winning was important. doesn't seem to be because they haven't improved the bench at all.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#956 » by Johnston » Thu Jan 6, 2022 2:45 am

Morris_Shatford wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Tyus Jones remains on my wish list. Exactly the type of player we need coming off the bench right now.


Depending on how the draft goes and how we address the five;
Jones who is a UFA is the type of guy you maybe consider chasing with some of the MLE?


I was actually playing around with the trade checker last week looking at a trade

Adams and Jones for Dragic Boucher and Flynn works salary wise.

Feels like fair value to me. Might even be able to just do a 2nd Rd pick instead of Flynn.

They save $$$ and we get our bench guard and legit 5.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#957 » by Asif16 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 7:11 am

Time to look for some bench depth. A guard with ball Handling skills and scoring ability would be ideal when Fred sits.

Caris Lavert
Eric Gordon
Jeremy Lamb?
Maurice Harkless?
Josh Hart?

Who else?
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Post#958 » by TheShocker » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:17 am

Gary Harris?
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#959 » by murphyslamz » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:53 am

I saw this trade offered to the Raptors in NBA 2k

Raptors Trade: Trent Jr. & Boucher
Pacers Trade: Turner & Holiday
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#960 » by pcc » Thu Jan 6, 2022 2:55 pm

Go get Queta in Sacramento. This team sucks without a true C :noway:

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