NBA Trade Thread # 5

[WindyCityBorn]

Of course they are

I wouldn't want to give up anybody on our roster for him.

Marko and Thomas would be good to send them. He only makes $2.6M.

He sucks. We don’t need a name. We need someone that can actually play well.

[WindyCityBorn]

We should take a hard look at Cousins. Would be good backup for Vuc.

[coldfish]

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Hmmmm I am in on Reddish honestly. I think in this culture he would thrive. Not sure why Dan or Cam they want to move though, its not a fire sale for sure they want something of good value back if the rumor is true. They are looking at something to shore up the team. Not like the Hawks are old and looking to rebuild. Neither would be cheap. At best they are like us trying to trade Thad and Lauri last year. Likely won't happen.

You would likely have to work out some complicated 3 or 4 team deal because I doubt that Atlanta would want anything Chicago was willing to trade.

[Wingy]

Not sure what Tony Bradley’s contract situation is but Boogie would be a big upgrade over him at backup C.

In terms of name recognition. In terms of chemistry, and fitting w/this team - give me Bradley. I was jumping around games at one point in recent memory, watched the Bucks for a bit, and within a matter of minutes Boogie gets a technical for being a mouthy moron. Still the same old knuckle head. We don’t need that. Nor do we need the “name” of the corpse of Deandre Jordan.

Bradley’s not a world beater, but he’s fine in his role. In fact, I like him for his experience on the Sixers. If we meet Philly and Embiid in the playoffs, he’s not going to be intimidated by logging some minutes against a guy he had to practice against all the time.

Washed up Centers are a distraction. We need to focus on Big wing PFs.

[Michael Jackson]

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Hmmmm I am in on Reddish honestly. I think in this culture he would thrive. Not sure why Dan or Cam they want to move though, its not a fire sale for sure they want something of good value back if the rumor is true. They are looking at something to shore up the team. Not like the Hawks are old and looking to rebuild. Neither would be cheap. At best they are like us trying to trade Thad and Lauri last year. Likely won't happen.

You would likely have to work out some complicated 3 or 4 team deal because I doubt that Atlanta would want anything Chicago was willing to trade.

You telling me they don’t want Matt Thomas? Ok I’ll throw in Jordan Bell. Is that enough greedy Atlanta? Stop being greedy and just give us the players we want NBA.

[gardenofsound]

Hmmmm I am in on Reddish honestly. I think in this culture he would thrive. Not sure why Dan or Cam they want to move though, its not a fire sale for sure they want something of good value back if the rumor is true. They are looking at something to shore up the team. Not like the Hawks are old and looking to rebuild. Neither would be cheap. At best they are like us trying to trade Thad and Lauri last year. Likely won't happen.

You would likely have to work out some complicated 3 or 4 team deal because I doubt that Atlanta would want anything Chicago was willing to trade.

You telling me they don’t want Matt Thomas? Ok I’ll throw in Jordan Bell. Is that enough greedy Atlanta? Stop being greedy and just give us the players we want NBA.

I've wanted Reddish for a while.

And Gallinari would absolutely slot in at starting PF immediately for the Bulls.

But yeah, I think that Atlanta is going to need to do that type of a deal with a selling team, and it's really unclear to me what kind of player they'd be looking to haul. They've got their starters more-or-less entrenched (Young/Bogdan/Hunter/Collins/Capela), and Reddish is already Hunter's insurance policy.

[sco]

You would likely have to work out some complicated 3 or 4 team deal because I doubt that Atlanta would want anything Chicago was willing to trade.

You telling me they don’t want Matt Thomas? Ok I’ll throw in Jordan Bell. Is that enough greedy Atlanta? Stop being greedy and just give us the players we want NBA.

I've wanted Reddish for a while.

And Gallinari would absolutely slot in at starting PF immediately for the Bulls.

But yeah, I think that Atlanta is going to need to do that type of a deal with a selling team, and it's really unclear to me what kind of player they'd be looking to haul. They've got their starters more-or-less entrenched (Young/Bogdan/Hunter/Collins/Capela), and Reddish is already Hunter's insurance policy.

I think they want Grant. Reddish is a good fit there, maybe we could snag Gallo, but his contract is for $21M this/next year, so it would likely require us dumping both White and DJJ, which is a big overpay.

[ChettheJet]

At this point I don't believe the player(s) that we end up with have surfaced in rumors or have been over discussed here. If all these obvious names were the options, they could have come by now. Evidence the Jordan Bell signing, that came out of left field.

I don't see Matt Thomas being around much longer. Now that people are returning for COVID, we all see some PF/C move being made and the signing of McKinnie, there's just no point to having a one dimensional guy taking a roster spot. If he could handle the ball, or play solid defense or was a great passer maybe but he can shoot and that's it. With White, Ayo, Caruso and even Brown or McKinnie to take the minutes behind Lavine and Ball, unless they have more than 2 guys go down Thomas never gets off the bench.

I'd like to hear what any coach has to say about Jordan Bell in practice. Unless he's done let's put him out there and see what he can do when he's basically asked to rebound and play defense. If he gives you 10-12 minutes so we don't have Ayo and Ball guarding PFs then he's worth it.

I'm not afraid to pick up DeAndre Jordan, for 10 minutes a game against some matchups, or on the floor to protect the rim with 4 guards he's worth having around. He at least brings experience with him, along with 6 fouls. Tony Bradley jr provides something against more mobile centers and smaller lineups, and right now Simonovic provides absolutely nothing. When any 2 of DJJ, Cook and Bell are healthy enough to play there's a PF to come off the bench and even play some small ball 5. And if we find a genuine starting 4, either of the latter two can get moved out.

Boogie showed that he still has something left in the tank. Surprised that Milwaukee is giving him up so easily. I wouldn't mind Boogie on this team as a big body and someone who can give you spot minutes backing up Vooch.

I think you answer the question of why the Bulls shouldn't be interested in Cousins. If MIL hunting for another title would rather have an open roster spot than pay Cousins next to nothing, should the Bulls really think he's going to help them. Attitude not skillset is what's had him floating from team to team for less than a season at each stop late in his career. Teams seem to bring hm in for what they think he can still do but somehow it doesn't work out.

[gardenofsound]

You telling me they don’t want Matt Thomas? Ok I’ll throw in Jordan Bell. Is that enough greedy Atlanta? Stop being greedy and just give us the players we want NBA.

I've wanted Reddish for a while.

And Gallinari would absolutely slot in at starting PF immediately for the Bulls.

But yeah, I think that Atlanta is going to need to do that type of a deal with a selling team, and it's really unclear to me what kind of player they'd be looking to haul. They've got their starters more-or-less entrenched (Young/Bogdan/Hunter/Collins/Capela), and Reddish is already Hunter's insurance policy.

I think they want Grant. Reddish is a good fit there, maybe we could snag Gallo, but his contract is for $21M this/next year, so it would likely require us dumping both White and DJJ, which is a big overpay.

So... Grant would come off the bench for them behind Collins? Or the opposite? Or they rejigger and Grant starts at SF, pushing Hunter to the bench?

[VolumePoster]

I don't see the attraction here.

Gallo is washed and can't defend a hat.

Reddish is classic recency bias. He has always oozed potential and will continue to ooze. If he was truly putting it together so to speak, Atlanta would be rushing to sign him, not trade him.

If we were in a different place as an organization, sure. But we need to be thinking about a 2-3 year championship window.

Grant all the way.

[sco]

I've wanted Reddish for a while.

And Gallinari would absolutely slot in at starting PF immediately for the Bulls.

But yeah, I think that Atlanta is going to need to do that type of a deal with a selling team, and it's really unclear to me what kind of player they'd be looking to haul. They've got their starters more-or-less entrenched (Young/Bogdan/Hunter/Collins/Capela), and Reddish is already Hunter's insurance policy.

I think they want Grant. Reddish is a good fit there, maybe we could snag Gallo, but his contract is for $21M this/next year, so it would likely require us dumping both White and DJJ, which is a big overpay.

So... Grant would come off the bench for them behind Collins? Or the opposite? Or they rejigger and Grant starts at SF, pushing Hunter to the bench?

Hunter, who's out, would go to the bench.

[Michael Jackson]

I don't see the attraction here.

Gallo is washed and can't defend a hat.

Reddish is classic recency bias. He has always oozed potential and will continue to ooze. If he was truly putting it together so to speak, Atlanta would be rushing to sign him, not trade him.

If we were in a different place as an organization, sure. But we need to be thinking about a 2-3 year championship window.

Grant all the way.

Reddish turned the corner last season before he got hurt. I think they are trading him because they can’t pay for him. Collins ate up a lot of cap room.

[Zeno]

Since you guys seem to like marginal Raptors rotation players a whole lot...

Boucher, Yuta and Malachi Flynn for Coby White and Marko Simonovic.

Both Boucher and Yuta don't fit our timeline in their late 20s as expirings. Yuta is a quality defender with size, Boucher can be really impactful with the right matchup. Flynn has some potential but doesn't fit the Raps play style.

[VolumePoster]

I don't see the attraction here.

Gallo is washed and can't defend a hat.

Reddish is classic recency bias. He has always oozed potential and will continue to ooze. If he was truly putting it together so to speak, Atlanta would be rushing to sign him, not trade him.

If we were in a different place as an organization, sure. But we need to be thinking about a 2-3 year championship window.

Grant all the way.

Reddish turned the corner last season before he got hurt. I think they are trading him because they can’t pay for him. Collins ate up a lot of cap room.

Last year he shot 37% from the field and 26% from three. I defer with respect to his injury and recognize I don't have enough granularity here.

I still like his potential and always have. But does he move the needle for us?

[sco]

Since you guys seem to like marginal Raptors rotation players a whole lot...

Boucher, Yuta and Malachi Flynn for Coby White and Marko Simonovic.

Both Boucher and Yuta don't fit our timeline in their late 20s as expirings. Yuta is a quality defender with size, Boucher can be really impactful with the right matchup. Flynn has some potential but doesn't fit the Raps play style.

Welcome! Solid suggestion. I haven't seen much of Yuta, but the little I've seen of Flynn, he seems decent. $-wise you'd need to take back an addition salary such as Brown, which would be ok with me.

Coby's recent upswing is polarizing to Bulls fans, but I might do this one.

[sco]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952109-updated-2022-nba-trade-deadline-predictions

[OldSchoolNoBull]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952109-updated-2022-nba-trade-deadline-predictions

That makes it seems like Grant is more available than Barnes; and that the Bulls are in the running.

[WindyCityBorn]

I don't see the attraction here.

Gallo is washed and can't defend a hat.

Reddish is classic recency bias. He has always oozed potential and will continue to ooze. If he was truly putting it together so to speak, Atlanta would be rushing to sign him, not trade him.

If we were in a different place as an organization, sure. But we need to be thinking about a 2-3 year championship window.

Grant all the way.

Reddish turned the corner last season before he got hurt. I think they are trading him because they can’t pay for him. Collins ate up a lot of cap room.

They should trade Collins then. A star wing is worth more than undersized non-star PF.

[Michael Jackson]

I don't see the attraction here.

Gallo is washed and can't defend a hat.

Reddish is classic recency bias. He has always oozed potential and will continue to ooze. If he was truly putting it together so to speak, Atlanta would be rushing to sign him, not trade him.

If we were in a different place as an organization, sure. But we need to be thinking about a 2-3 year championship window.

Grant all the way.

Reddish turned the corner last season before he got hurt. I think they are trading him because they can’t pay for him. Collins ate up a lot of cap room.

They should trade Collins then. A star wing is worth more than undersized non-star PF.

I don't think Reddish is better than Collins by any stretch. I don't like Collins game myself but no way they get to the eCF last year without him. I think they were thinking of letting him walk but last years playoffs pretty much made it so they had to pay the man.

[Wingy]

Since you guys seem to like marginal Raptors rotation players a whole lot...

Boucher, Yuta and Malachi Flynn for Coby White and Marko Simonovic.

Both Boucher and Yuta don't fit our timeline in their late 20s as expirings. Yuta is a quality defender with size, Boucher can be really impactful with the right matchup. Flynn has some potential but doesn't fit the Raps play style.

No way in h-e-double hockey sticks (seemed especially appropriate once I remembered you are a Raps fan ). Boucher is solid, but has become severely overrated around here. Coby while flawed became severely underrated due to an understandable horrid streak coming back from injury plus a myriad of other factors that a strangely huge number of smart people here just decided to ignore.

Bulls fans have forgotten playoff basketball. They think Demar and Zach are going to just waltz around and do their thing as they are so far this season. I think they're both going to be really good, but it gets a lot harder as you probably know. Coby's ability to create his own shots, and shots for others at times will be invaluable once we hit playoff intensity, and teams start game-planning for DD/Zach.

I'm certainly open to trading the guy, but not for anyone that can't generate offense. Boucher while valuable, is not that guy from what I've seen.