Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[CelticFaninLBC]

The question is not where Tatum and Brown are right now, it's what are they going to be in 2-3 years.

Celtics fans are just impatient.

Well, that's the question. I would be more optimistic if either Tatum or Brown had improved one iota between the bubble and now. They have not, and Tatum regressed as soon as he got the big money.

As it is, yes, I'm impatient, not only for a championship (I've given up any hope of banner #18 in my lifetime) but just for some consistently good, unselfish basketball. I want them both gone.

Hypotheticall speaking,
If you were GM with full autonomy

What would you do?


How are you changing the teams Culture and building for a faster run at banner 18+?

He'd turn the Celtics into the Kings.

[Larry_Russell]

Well, that's the question. I would be more optimistic if either Tatum or Brown had improved one iota between the bubble and now. They have not, and Tatum regressed as soon as he got the big money.

As it is, yes, I'm impatient, not only for a championship (I've given up any hope of banner #18 in my lifetime) but just for some consistently good, unselfish basketball. I want them both gone.

Hypotheticall speaking,
If you were GM with full autonomy

What would you do?


How are you changing the teams Culture and building for a faster run at banner 18+?

He'd turn the Celtics into the Kings.

With how he values the Jays I am sure they would only bring in a top 10-15 ish pick on draft night.

[Curmudgeon]

The question is not where Tatum and Brown are right now, it's what are they going to be in 2-3 years.

Celtics fans are just impatient.

Well, that's the question. I would be more optimistic if either Tatum or Brown had improved one iota between the bubble and now. They have not, and Tatum regressed as soon as he got the big money.

As it is, yes, I'm impatient, not only for a championship (I've given up any hope of banner #18 in my lifetime) but just for some consistently good, unselfish basketball. I want them both gone.

Hypotheticall speaking,
If you were GM with full autonomy

What would you do?


How are you changing the teams Culture and building for a faster run at banner 18+?

It depends on what other teams are willing to do. I've already posted half a dozen ways to unload Tatum and Brown. That has to be the first step because they represent half the team's cap number. But after that, I'm open for business with the rest of the roster.

There are three or four young players around the league who I think are undervalued. I'd try to bring those players in and develop them. Two that come immediately to mind are Davion Mitchell and Usman Garuba.

Then I'd attempt to acquire as much draft capital as possible for 2023, which looks like a deep draft with a potentially generational player at the top (Wembanyama).

[CelticFaninLBC]

Hypotheticall speaking,
If you were GM with full autonomy

What would you do?


How are you changing the teams Culture and building for a faster run at banner 18+?

He'd turn the Celtics into the Kings.

With how he values the Jays I am sure they would only bring in a top 10-15 ish pick on draft night.

He wants to tank and draft Dragan Bender's brothers.

[Bad-Thoma]

Well, I've run my simulations of potential posters as Boston's GM. Most of it is confused but Curmudgeon clearly came back as this -

[CelticFaninLBC]

Well, that's the question. I would be more optimistic if either Tatum or Brown had improved one iota between the bubble and now. They have not, and Tatum regressed as soon as he got the big money.

As it is, yes, I'm impatient, not only for a championship (I've given up any hope of banner #18 in my lifetime) but just for some consistently good, unselfish basketball. I want them both gone.

Hypotheticall speaking,
If you were GM with full autonomy

What would you do?


How are you changing the teams Culture and building for a faster run at banner 18+?

It depends on what other teams are willing to do. I've already posted half a dozen ways to unload Tatum and Brown. That has to be the first step because they represent half the team's cap number. But after that, I'm open for business with the rest of the roster.

There are three or four young players around the league who I think are undervalued. I'd try to bring those players in and develop them. Two that come immediately to mind are Davion Mitchell and Usman Garuba.

Then I'd attempt to acquire as much draft capital as possible for 2023, which looks like a deep draft with a potentially generational player at the top (Wembanyama).

Mitchell's a year older than Romeo and Nesmith and is shooting 30% from 3. Meh.

[Larry_Russell]

Horford to Toronto for Dragic sheds Horfords contract off the books next year (14.5 million)

Trading Brown for Haliburton and Barnes and their unprotected 1st or 2

Then you have 2 of Smart, Richardson and Barnes that adds up to beal.

Haliburton/Pritchard
Beal/Romeo
Barnes/Nesmith
Tatum/Grant
Timelord

Picks from Sacramento

[Curmudgeon]

Hypotheticall speaking,
If you were GM with full autonomy

What would you do?


How are you changing the teams Culture and building for a faster run at banner 18+?

It depends on what other teams are willing to do. I've already posted half a dozen ways to unload Tatum and Brown. That has to be the first step because they represent half the team's cap number. But after that, I'm open for business with the rest of the roster.

There are three or four young players around the league who I think are undervalued. I'd try to bring those players in and develop them. Two that come immediately to mind are Davion Mitchell and Usman Garuba.

Then I'd attempt to acquire as much draft capital as possible for 2023, which looks like a deep draft with a potentially generational player at the top (Wembanyama).

Mitchell's a year older than Romeo and Nesmith and is shooting 30% from 3. Meh.

Best defender in the draft. And Garuba is probably the second best defender in the draft. The only reason Mitchell might be available is the shooting numbers. If he were shooting 38% from three point range he'd be untouchable. Give him a year with Joe Mazzulla.

[BK_2020]

Horford to Toronto for Dragic sheds Horfords contract off the books next year (14.5 million)

Trading Brown for Haliburton and Barnes and their unprotected 1st or 2

Then you have 2 of Smart, Richardson and Barnes that adds up to beal.

Haliburton/Pritchard
Beal/Romeo
Barnes/Nesmith
Tatum/Grant
Timelord

Picks from Sacramento

You forgot trading Jaylen and J Rich for Luka Doncic, which gets us the better player, and then flipping Nesmith for Zion Williamson so we can take a flyer on a guy who's injured right now.

[Larry_Russell]

It depends on what other teams are willing to do. I've already posted half a dozen ways to unload Tatum and Brown. That has to be the first step because they represent half the team's cap number. But after that, I'm open for business with the rest of the roster.

There are three or four young players around the league who I think are undervalued. I'd try to bring those players in and develop them. Two that come immediately to mind are Davion Mitchell and Usman Garuba.

Then I'd attempt to acquire as much draft capital as possible for 2023, which looks like a deep draft with a potentially generational player at the top (Wembanyama).

Mitchell's a year older than Romeo and Nesmith and is shooting 30% from 3. Meh.

Best defender in the draft. And Garuba is probably the second best defender in the draft. The only reason Mitchell might be available is the shooting numbers. If he were shooting 38% from three point range he'd be untouchable. Give him a year with Joe Mazzulla.

I do like Mitchell and Garuba. But I am pretty sure MItchell is highly liked by those in Sacramento and the cost would not be cheap.

So how do you propose we get them?

[Larry_Russell]

Horford, Schroder and Tryo Brown Jr to Chicago

RoCo to the Bulls

White and McCollum to Boston

McCollum get healthy then can be used in a deal for a star if needed in the offseason if he is a no go this year.

[Curmudgeon]

I've already proposed several deals with Houston to dump as much salary as possible and take back Wall and Garuba. I mean, I'd love to get Jalen Green but he's probably up there with Ja Morant and Scottie Barnes on the untouchables list.

If Green is available I'd do Tatum, Horford and Schroder for Green, Wall and Garuba.

As for Mitchell, I'd do Brown for Harrison Barnes, Mitchell and a first round pick.
It might not even take Brown if you were willing to take Hield off their hands. I wouldn't do that, but others might.

Sacramento is clearly open for business and so are the Lakers. And Houston has to be after that fiasco with Wood and Porter.

[BK_2020]

Yes, Houston, after that fiasco with Wood and Porter, simply has to be dying to trade away players that are not Wood and Porter.
Seriously do you people even read what you post.

[ddb]

Pretty much every team passed on Bane, harping on the Celtics trading the pick is silly.

Yup, I'd say it's safe to say that Bane has outplayed his draft stock. I also don't think he gets the opportunities he's had in Memphis if he was in Boston. Memphis has been a great spot for him. I'm happy for him. Sucks that Boston didn't keep him and give him a chance, but there's no going back....

[ddb]

I've already proposed several deals with Houston to dump as much salary as possible and take back Wall and Garuba. I mean, I'd love to get Jalen Green but he's probably up there with Ja Morant and Scottie Barnes on the untouchables list.

If Green is available I'd do Tatum, Horford and Schroder for Green, Wall and Garuba.

As for Mitchell, I'd do Brown for Harrison Barnes, Mitchell and a first round pick.
It might not even take Brown if you were willing to take Hield off their hands. I wouldn't do that, but others might.

Sacramento is clearly open for business and so are the Lakers. And Houston has to be after that fiasco with Wood and Porter.

I feel blessed that you aren't the GM of the Boston Celtics. Phew.

[Larry_Russell]

I've already proposed several deals with Houston to dump as much salary as possible and take back Wall and Garuba. I mean, I'd love to get Jalen Green but he's probably up there with Ja Morant and Scottie Barnes on the untouchables list.

If Green is available I'd do Tatum, Horford and Schroder for Green, Wall and Garuba.

As for Mitchell, I'd do Brown for Harrison Barnes, Mitchell and a first round pick.
It might not even take Brown if you were willing to take Hield off their hands. I wouldn't do that, but others might.

Sacramento is clearly open for business and so are the Lakers. And Houston has to be after that fiasco with Wood and Porter.

So
Mitchell/Pritchard/Wall
Green/Romeo
Barnes/Nesmith
Garuba/Grant
Timelord/Kanter

Thats prett bad

[Celts17Pride]

I also don't think he gets the opportunities he's had in Memphis if he was in Boston.

You think?

Celtics would have given Joe Johnson more minutes than Desmond Bane. Don't exactly know what the plan is in Boston. Draft guys, don't play and develop them and then just let them go in 3 years?

Who knows?

[Larry_Russell]

Horford and SChroder to Clippers
Ibaka and Winslow to Charlotte
Washington, Bledsoe and Smith to Boston?

[Tatumfor2]

That Fox quote is fake.

Is this Tall Rondo?

[jeremym480]

That Fox quote is fake.