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Post#1541 » by puppa bear » Fri Jan 7, 2022 10:19 am

I’m all in for trying to get Jaylen Brown, if/when the Celtics realise they need to retool for better fit. Herro/Duncan/KZ/picks for Brown - money works.

Kyle/Jimmy/JB/PJ/Bam - now that’s a starting unit to go to war with! Vincent/Dipo/Caleb/Strus/Morris/Yurt still on the bench, means we don’t lose depth.

This is the one we will have been waiting for …

For the Celtics:
Smart/Duncan/Tatum/Horford/Williams with Schroder/J-Rich/Herro/Langford/Freedom on the bench is a better balance around Tatum for them.
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Post#1542 » by Wiltside » Fri Jan 7, 2022 11:27 am

puppa bear wrote:I’m all in for trying to get Jaylen Brown, if/when the Celtics realise they need to retool for better fit. Herro/Duncan/KZ/picks for Brown - money works.

Kyle/Jimmy/JB/PJ/Bam - now that’s a starting unit to go to war with! Vincent/Dipo/Caleb/Strus/Morris/Yurt still on the bench, means we don’t lose depth.

This is the one we will have been waiting for …

For the Celtics:
Smart/Duncan/Tatum/Horford/Williams with Schroder/J-Rich/Herro/Langford/Freedom on the bench is a better balance around Tatum for them.


I’d cash the chips for Brown, but I doubt the Celts would deal him to a fellow Eastern team.

Having said that, Lowry/Brown/Butler/Tucker/Adebayo would arguably be favourites for it all.
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Post#1543 » by marson » Fri Jan 7, 2022 11:35 am

Celtics were also one pick away from picking up Herro. Brad Stevens is very high on him.

I'd sign up for this. Only problem I have with Brown is he can't create shots for his teammates but other than that, he would fit like a glove here.
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Post#1544 » by shanedude » Fri Jan 7, 2022 1:18 pm

Kevin Love would do more for this team than a Grant,Wood, etc. His shooting, passing, rebounding, experience/IQ would take this team to another level. I'm not sure if Cleveland deals however.

Harrison Barnes would also be amazing.
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Post#1545 » by dagger151 » Fri Jan 7, 2022 1:39 pm

Always loved Jaylen Browns game and he would flourish as a Heat player. Id do that trade in a heartbeat.
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Post#1546 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 7, 2022 1:50 pm

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puppa bear wrote:I’m all in for trying to get Jaylen Brown, if/when the Celtics realise they need to retool for better fit. Herro/Duncan/KZ/picks for Brown - money works.

Kyle/Jimmy/JB/PJ/Bam - now that’s a starting unit to go to war with! Vincent/Dipo/Caleb/Strus/Morris/Yurt still on the bench, means we don’t lose depth.

This is the one we will have been waiting for …

For the Celtics:
Smart/Duncan/Tatum/Horford/Williams with Schroder/J-Rich/Herro/Langford/Freedom on the bench is a better balance around Tatum for them.


I’d cash the chips for Brown, but I doubt the Celts would deal him to a fellow Eastern team.

Having said that, Lowry/Brown/Butler/Tucker/Adebayo would arguably be favourites for it all.

As you stated i give us about a 1% chance at getting Jaylen Brown via trade from the Celtics. They will scour every other team in the league before they deal Brown to us.
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Post#1547 » by marson » Fri Jan 7, 2022 2:34 pm

shanedude wrote:Kevin Love would do more for this team than a Grant,Wood, etc. His shooting, passing, rebounding, experience/IQ would take this team to another level. I'm not sure if Cleveland deals however.

Harrison Barnes would also be amazing.


Only issue with Love is his Injury history and that massive contract. But he would certainly fit alongside Bam.
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Post#1548 » by marson » Fri Jan 7, 2022 2:37 pm

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puppa bear wrote:I’m all in for trying to get Jaylen Brown, if/when the Celtics realise they need to retool for better fit. Herro/Duncan/KZ/picks for Brown - money works.

Kyle/Jimmy/JB/PJ/Bam - now that’s a starting unit to go to war with! Vincent/Dipo/Caleb/Strus/Morris/Yurt still on the bench, means we don’t lose depth.

This is the one we will have been waiting for …

For the Celtics:
Smart/Duncan/Tatum/Horford/Williams with Schroder/J-Rich/Herro/Langford/Freedom on the bench is a better balance around Tatum for them.


I’d cash the chips for Brown, but I doubt the Celts would deal him to a fellow Eastern team.

Having said that, Lowry/Brown/Butler/Tucker/Adebayo would arguably be favourites for it all.

As you stated i give us about a 1% chance at getting Jaylen Brown via trade from the Celtics. They will scour every other team in the league before they deal Brown to us.


Isn't Brad Stevens leading the helm now?

This might change this time since the most salty GM Ainge is no longer there.
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Post#1549 » by IggieCC » Fri Jan 7, 2022 2:38 pm



Jalen Smith anyone? Suns foolishly gave up on this young talent. Maybe we can trade for him relatively cheap since they will most likely not be able to resign him? Not sure we can afford him in off-szn either though :dontknow:

Bam and Jalen :droop:
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Post#1550 » by IggieCC » Fri Jan 7, 2022 2:45 pm

marson wrote:
shanedude wrote:Kevin Love would do more for this team than a Grant,Wood, etc. His shooting, passing, rebounding, experience/IQ would take this team to another level. I'm not sure if Cleveland deals however.

Harrison Barnes would also be amazing.


Only issue with Love is his Injury history and that massive contract. But he would certainly fit alongside Bam.

I saw Love in a Cavs game briefly the other day.

He was on the bench but he was HIGHLY engaged cheering for his team (lol). Either he really likes the current Cavs (which is playing some inspiring basketball) or found love for the game once again (pun intended).

Buyout is unlikely at this point, but Cavs might be enticed to trade for some (overpaid) guard help since they are down 2 starting caliber guards and will realize Rondo is a disappoint soon enough.
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Post#1551 » by IggieCC » Fri Jan 7, 2022 2:48 pm

Harrison Barnes is the most realistic target I think.

Jaylen Brown is a pipe dream. Too bad because he looks to be a prototypical Heat player. This year he's started taking some WTF shots in Boston's broke offense though. The guy needs to get back on the right program asap.
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Post#1552 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:01 pm

IggieCC wrote:Harrison Barnes is the most realistic target I think.

Jaylen Brown is a pipe dream. Too bad because he looks to be a prototypical Heat player. This year he's started taking some WTF shots in Boston's broke offense though. The guy needs to get back on the right program asap.

I don’t think Barnes is realistic at all for Duncan Robinson. Why would the Kings do that? Why not just keep Barnes who’s better? The reason we want Barnes is because he’s better then Duncan but why would the Kings want to regress and tie up there books long term with Duncan? Is KZ and a a draft pick deep in the future supposed to be a sweetner?
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Post#1553 » by AirP. » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:17 pm

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Post#1554 » by IggieCC » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:20 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
IggieCC wrote:Harrison Barnes is the most realistic target I think.

Jaylen Brown is a pipe dream. Too bad because he looks to be a prototypical Heat player. This year he's started taking some WTF shots in Boston's broke offense though. The guy needs to get back on the right program asap.

I don’t think Barnes is realistic at all for Duncan Robinson. Why would the Kings do that? Why not just keep Barnes who’s better? The reason we want Barnes is because he’s better then Duncan but why would the Kings want to regress and tie up there books long term with Duncan? Is KZ and a a draft pick deep in the future supposed to be a sweetner?

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Post#1555 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:40 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
IggieCC wrote:Harrison Barnes is the most realistic target I think.

Jaylen Brown is a pipe dream. Too bad because he looks to be a prototypical Heat player. This year he's started taking some WTF shots in Boston's broke offense though. The guy needs to get back on the right program asap.

I don’t think Barnes is realistic at all for Duncan Robinson. Why would the Kings do that? Why not just keep Barnes who’s better? The reason we want Barnes is because he’s better then Duncan but why would the Kings want to regress and tie up there books long term with Duncan? Is KZ and a a draft pick deep in the future supposed to be a sweetner?


Bad, rebuilding teams will often times trade their vets for first rounds picks/young pieces so yes I believe they would. They’ll get to put a great shooter next to Fox and Halliburton to spread the floor as they’ll probably be looking to move Buddy too.
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Post#1556 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:42 pm

How much of a pipe dream is brown really though if we’re willing to trade literally anything outside of Bam Jimmy and Lowry? They’re god awful and love Herro who doesn’t overlap with Tatum as much.

Brown is underappreciated and under utilized there, I’ve thought he was better than Tatum for the last year or 2 but this year he’s really proving it.
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Post#1557 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:45 pm

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Post#1558 » by Kobewade11 » Fri Jan 7, 2022 4:03 pm

Boston is not trading Jaylen Brown to Miami.
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Post#1559 » by AirP. » Fri Jan 7, 2022 5:36 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
IggieCC wrote:Harrison Barnes is the most realistic target I think.

Jaylen Brown is a pipe dream. Too bad because he looks to be a prototypical Heat player. This year he's started taking some WTF shots in Boston's broke offense though. The guy needs to get back on the right program asap.

I don’t think Barnes is realistic at all for Duncan Robinson. Why would the Kings do that? Why not just keep Barnes who’s better? The reason we want Barnes is because he’s better then Duncan but why would the Kings want to regress and tie up there books long term with Duncan? Is KZ and a a draft pick deep in the future supposed to be a sweetner?


Bad, rebuilding teams will often times trade their vets for first rounds picks/young pieces so yes I believe they would. They’ll get to put a great shooter next to Fox and Halliburton to spread the floor as they’ll probably be looking to move Buddy too.

Duncan is a little over a year younger then Hield, Duncan will be 28 in April, Hield turned 29 last month.
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Post#1560 » by AirP. » Fri Jan 7, 2022 5:46 pm

This was a great subject to write about and it just happens that the top 3 are Heat players.
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The real answer is that three unheralded Miami players have unexpectedly given them quality minutes that allowed the Heat to survive … no, to thrive … despite the absence of their stars.

That trio — Max Strus, Caleb Martin and Omer Yurtseven — are my top three candidates for my Dog Days Heroes. These are the unheralded players, mostly playing out of the limelight, who have shined below the radar during the midseason slog of December and January. I’ll get into the rest of the team in a bit, but I have to start in Miami because the Heat have three of the nine players on my roster.


Just putting down some of the Yurtseven story since he's not gotten much written about him as of yet.
Yurtseven is an interesting case because he had been on scouts’ radars for a long time — ever since he was a 17-year-old for Fenerbahce grabbing every rebound in a preseason game in Brooklyn, prompting execs to text their overseas scouts, “Who the hell is THIS guy?” His college career at NC State and Georgetown was good but not quite spectacular enough to get him drafted; despite strong per-minute numbers, concerns lingered about his skill level away from the basket and ability to defend in space.

Teams probably should have warmed up to him sooner last season, when he was second in the G League in PER in 14 games for Oklahoma City (trailing only the legendary Paul Reed), but the Heat were able to pluck him in May. After an impressive summer league stint, he began the year third on the center depth chart but was pressed into service when the injuries hit.


It may be a bit before he stretches out the 3-point line, but Yurtseven has shown enough touch to indicate promise on that front. Here, for instance, he nails the Udonis Haslem Memorial Baseline Jumper for a key bucket late against Sacramento, a game he finished with 22 points and 16 rebounds.

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