2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[Morris_Shatford]

Does a Horford for Dragic swap make sense?

I am not sure how Boston values (or doesn't value) Horford so I cant comment on value.

The challenge is Dragic makes 19m and Horford makes 27m;
You could potentially tack Bouchers (7m) expiring on there to get close but it may put us in the tax.

The other issues is Horford makes 26.5m next season (14.5m guaranteed)

If we kept him, we wouldn't be able to use the entire MLE (assuming we kept our FRP and signed him) this off-season without going into the tax.

Unless you make an additional deal I suppose. (Siakam to Sacramento?)

I don't see the Raps moving off any of their guys who are signed longer (ish) term during the season;
They haven't exactly seen the team playing "healthy" and together for many games and with FVV and Siakams recent play I would think the Raps are going to just wait and see all season by way of trades (except for expiring / fringe players)

If the Raps were to acquire a C like Horford it would be to address the hole on the current roster as made up rather than a leadup to a blow up style rebuild.

[Morris_Shatford]

Last four games for Jalen Smith in Phoenix:

- 16 PPG
- 10.5 RPG

Because his 3rd year team option was declined, the most that Phoenix or an acquiring team can sign him for is $4.67M.

The first top 10 pick not to have his 3rd year option exercised since Joe Alexander (2009).

There is a ton to like about Jalen Smith.
He never should have gone as high as he did in the lotto and that's on the Suns, but he has good size, has played well given the recent opportunities he has been given and he is 21.

My only * in the Raps looking at him this summer is the Chris Paul factor.
Paul has been making average guys look like superstars for nearly two decades.

If you can land him fairly low cost on a team friendly deal I would be happy with that the issue is there are teams with more cap space than brains who I would be concerned will offer him a majority of the MLE for a long term contract that that I would like to avoid.

[canada_dry]

Jalen smith would be a good option for the offseason. Or maybe a trade?

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[tecumseh18]

Jalen smith would be a good option for the offseason. Or maybe a trade?

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As I understand it, if we trade for Smith, then we can't re-sign him without cap space, which we won't have/don't want. We won't get his Bird rights. So we're giving up assets for a pure rental.

Whereas if we stay under the tax, we can use up to the full non-taxpayer MLE on him (or Portis, or whoever) next summer.

[pilkoids]

Just saw Bismack got signed for the rest of the season with PHX. Really could've used a big body fan favourite back on this team

[Madhouse]

Tyus Jones remains on my wish list. Exactly the type of player we need coming off the bench right now.

Depending on how the draft goes and how we address the five;
Jones who is a UFA is the type of guy you maybe consider chasing with some of the MLE?

I would go after this guy the Suns messed up lol.

Last four games for Jalen Smith in Phoenix:

- 16 PPG
- 10.5 RPG

Because his 3rd year team option was declined, the most that Phoenix or an acquiring team can sign him for is $4.67M.

The first top 10 pick not to have his 3rd year option exercised since Joe Alexander (2009).

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2022/1/4/22867145/phoenix-suns-jalen-smith-predicament-should-they-keep-him-or-deal-him

This could prove to be a massive evaluation by PHX. A big blunder.

Bring this guy in for Booshay.

[douggood]

Depending on how the draft goes and how we address the five;
Jones who is a UFA is the type of guy you maybe consider chasing with some of the MLE?

I would go after this guy the Suns messed up lol.

Last four games for Jalen Smith in Phoenix:

- 16 PPG
- 10.5 RPG

Because his 3rd year team option was declined, the most that Phoenix or an acquiring team can sign him for is $4.67M.

The first top 10 pick not to have his 3rd year option exercised since Joe Alexander (2009).

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2022/1/4/22867145/phoenix-suns-jalen-smith-predicament-should-they-keep-him-or-deal-him

This could prove to be a massive evaluation by PHX. A big blunder.

Bring this guy in for Booshay.

if you trade for him, you inherit the contract situation/limiation, cannot resign him for more than $4.67 unless you use exemption.

so instead of trading for him now, you can instead resign boucher and also sign jalen smith with MLE in offseason.

and lets say you do trade for him and he keeps up the pace, if another cap team (det for example) offer more than MLE we cannot match that. could be a pure rental sitiuation.

[brownbobcat]

Thoughts on targeting Batum with the MLE? I know he's 33 and there's no "upside" there, but he seems like a guy who could still provide 25-30 mins of high quality play for another 3-4 years, similar to PJ Tucker or Suns-era Grant Hill. I think he'll get his pick of wherever he wants to play, though.

[Morris_Shatford]

Thoughts on targeting Batum with the MLE? I know he's 33 and there's no "upside" there, but he seems like a guy who could still provide 25-30 mins of high quality play for another 3-4 years, similar to PJ Tucker or Suns-era Grant Hill. I think he'll get his pick of wherever he wants to play, though.

I dont know if its an organizational thing or just a Bryan Colangelo thing.
There recall there was a lot of static from his camp around the 2008 draft.

Apparently the Raps found something during a workout in Toronto (Heart related I think?) which in hindsight he may or may not have had and the feeling was it cost him several draft spots and he dropped to 25.

Not sure if he would ever come here based on that.

[wegotthabeet]

Is Jakob Poeltl attainable at a reasonable price?

[Morris_Shatford]

Is Jakob Poeltl attainable at a reasonable price?

Maybe?

He is on a pretty solid contract with 19m-ish owned over this season and next.
Making under 10m a season and playing 29MPG is a pretty sweet deal for what he brings.

The Spurs are nowhere near the tax and will have a fair bit of cap space this summer so the fiscal relief angle wouldn't work and he isnt blocking the development path for anyone on the Spurs. If he is not part of their immediate plans maybe pick or prospect?

I think an expiring and an FRP is likely where the discussion starts.

[goinrogue]

Not saying I want this to happen but do you guys think Masai would trade og snd goran for Simmons? I remember a beat writer predicted this a while ago, the idea being that Philly would settle for this after realizing they’re not getting Lillard or Beal. Not saying it’s a good idea but I think Masai would consider it if he thinks there’s overlap with Barnes and OG.

[Spida888]

Not saying I want this to happen but do you guys think Masai would trade og snd goran for Simmons? I remember a beat writer predicted this a while ago, the idea being that Philly would settle for this after realizing they’re not getting Lillard or Beal. Not saying it’s a good idea but I think Masai would consider it if he thinks there’s overlap with Barnes and OG.

I don't think Masai does it, he's pretty tight with OG and he's one of our most attractive assets that has upside (Barnes/OG/Picks).

Masai would probably consider Fred/Siakam for Simmons before OG, but I think at this point trading any one of those guys for Simmons is a big risk and a bad look.

It's interesting to think about Fred though mainly because of his contract situation. If he makes the all star team, he's going to get a pay day in a couple of years. With him basically expiring next year, its food for thought.

Totally unrelated, but recently I was thinking with Pascal's stock going up and Celtics losing, if some deal like Brown + Schroder (to match salary) for Pascal + protected FRP + SRP is a consideration.

[mdenny]

Has anyone else considered going after delon wright in the off season? What is his situation right now? Are the hawks expected to resign him? Seems dubious given their cap. They'd be paying 3 times whatever his salary is for him.

What do we think he's expected to get? Can't be much more than he's already making. How hard would it be to clear enough cap space? Would it be easier to trade for him? Do the hawks have a need for boucher?

Just asking.

Another guard is clearly the priority right now. Maybe he's the perfect fit?

[goinrogue]

I see your point on selling high with Fred or pascal. Trading Fred would mean going all in on the all big lineup.

[MikeM]

Is Jabari Parker really worse than 15 guys on our team? 6'8" and a TS around .600 every year.

[Psubs]

Is Jabari Parker really worse than 15 guys on our team? 6'8" and a TS around .600 every year.

Like Kemba, no defense.

[DreamTeam09]

Dragic for Joe Harris + James johnson

[Tripod]

It seems real obvious that we could use a big C who can play which pushes GTJ to the bench which helps to fix t he bench scoring issues. And that C doesn't need to be a big scorer. Rim protector and lob finisher and rebounder. Be able to make a 2-3 ft shot/gimmie. The rest of our guys will get their shots so someone who cares about the things we need and not points, would do wonders.

[Butch_Coolidge]

It seems real obvious that we could use a big C who can play which pushes GTJ to the bench which helps to fix t he bench scoring issues. And that C doesn't need to be a big scorer. Rim protector and lob finisher and rebounder. Be able to make a 2-3 ft shot/gimmie. The rest of our guys will get their shots so someone who cares about the things we need and not points, would do wonders.

Myles Turner