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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#621 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jan 7, 2022 9:49 pm

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Take Jrich out and change it to Schroder then I would consider it, just to potentially punt the season.

I am confident that in the offseason Westbrooks value will be higher than it is now. And that is if he actually opts in to his contract.

40+ million player option on next season. He could easily nab a multi year 20 million per season contract somewhere in the offseason, confident in that should he opt out.

Detroit and Knicks are destinations in a trade.

I would strongly consider this.


I genuinely think he'd help the Celtics since he could run their offense. He has led top offenses in the league for many years.

And yeah, if it doesn't work then moving him will be easier as an expiring.

Yeah you can't be serious on this one.

No one is taking Westbrook, even as an expiring, at $40+ million. Come on man.

Also, I've dealt with enough pain the last few years, I'm not sure I can deal with the pain of having Westbrook on my team.


You have defensive focused coach and two wings that in the absence of a distributor play excessive iso ball.

Westbrook is a simple solution to the Celtics problems. He is an offensive system that can distribute the ball to Tatum and Brown, he will improve their shooting %s like he's done with every star player he's played with and his leadership will help sort out locker room problems.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#622 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Jan 7, 2022 9:50 pm

Westbrook isn't an expiring. He has a player option for next year.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#623 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jan 7, 2022 10:02 pm

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I genuinely think he'd help the Celtics since he could run their offense. He has led top offenses in the league for many years.

And yeah, if it doesn't work then moving him will be easier as an expiring.

Yeah you can't be serious on this one.

No one is taking Westbrook, even as an expiring, at $40+ million. Come on man.

Also, I've dealt with enough pain the last few years, I'm not sure I can deal with the pain of having Westbrook on my team.


You have defensive focused coach and two wings that in the absence of a distributor play excessive iso ball.

Westbrook is a simple solution to the Celtics problems. He is an offensive system that can distribute the ball to Tatum and Brown, he will improve their shooting %s like he's done with every star player he's played with and his leadership will help sort out locker room problems.

Ok so there's so much wrong in this post but let's start with the obvious: what star did he actually improve the shooting percentage of? KD's was better since he left him. Paul George too. Is Beal the only one?

He also turns it over like crazy, can't shoot at all (and would be added to a team that already has no shooters), and doesn't play any defense so saying he's a fit on this team is **** nuts. Also, how is he a leader? When has he ever been a leader?

And then you remember the fact that his contract might be a top 3 bad one in the league and you question why you even ponder this in the first place.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#624 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Jan 7, 2022 10:17 pm

LOL. If the Lakers could give you 2-3 lottery picks for Westbrook, you might consider it, then just buy him out. But the Lakers used all of their assets on Anthony Davis.

Unlike the Lakers, Houston has assets, which is why John Wall might work in a salary dump scenario. Westbrook doesn't.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#625 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jan 7, 2022 10:23 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:Yeah you can't be serious on this one.

No one is taking Westbrook, even as an expiring, at $40+ million. Come on man.

Also, I've dealt with enough pain the last few years, I'm not sure I can deal with the pain of having Westbrook on my team.


You have defensive focused coach and two wings that in the absence of a distributor play excessive iso ball.

Westbrook is a simple solution to the Celtics problems. He is an offensive system that can distribute the ball to Tatum and Brown, he will improve their shooting %s like he's done with every star player he's played with and his leadership will help sort out locker room problems.

Ok so there's so much wrong in this post but let's start with the obvious: what star did he actually improve the shooting percentage of? KD's was better since he left him. Paul George too. Is Beal the only one?

He also turns it over like crazy, can't shoot at all (and would be added to a team that already has no shooters), and doesn't play any defense so saying he's a fit on this team is **** nuts. Also, how is he a leader? When has he ever been a leader?

And then you remember the fact that his contract might be a top 3 bad one in the league and you question why you even ponder this in the first place.


Durant, LeBron, Harden, Beal.. On-Off with them has them shot better with him playing alongside them

It's clear you haven't followed much of Westbrook if you think he can't shoot at all and isn't a leader. This isn't Ben Simmons we are talking about.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#626 » by Ed Pinkney » Fri Jan 7, 2022 10:48 pm

Westbrook? How are the Lakers going at the moment? Hovering around .500 only because James is scoring a million points a game. I know they ended up on different teams, but if the Lakers were to ring up and suggest a trade of Westbrook for Caruso, Harrell and Kuzma, it would take the other team all of about zero seconds to say no thanks and hang up the phone. And I am pretty sure in the end, the Thunder, the Rockets and the Wizards were all quite happy to see him go. And there are multiple reports that the Lakers would be as well.

The leadership I can't really comment on to be honest, but it is as clear as day that Westbrook is a well, well below average shooter, who doesn't play defense, and doesn't really make a team any better.

There is very little I like about the Celtics at the moment, but Westbrook is one of the few players that would make me like them even less.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#627 » by Marvel » Fri Jan 7, 2022 11:05 pm

Westbrook, please no.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#628 » by Bohemian » Fri Jan 7, 2022 11:27 pm

Get Boogie. At least we will have someone who shows emotion and toughness.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#629 » by Theocy » Fri Jan 7, 2022 11:27 pm

Dont know how i feel about the shooting issues but a trio of Tatum Brown and Simmons is something that i would maybe like to see. Not sure if there’s even a way to do it - probably needs involvment of a team like Kings who might be willing to part with Fox (to 76ers) and take back picks and dross.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#630 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jan 8, 2022 12:04 am

Tatum, Brown and Simmons would be a disaster, from a salary cap perspective and a basketball perspective.
Unless Morey is willing to eat crow, Simmons won't be traded until the Summer. Oh sure, between now and the deadline there will a rumor every other day that this team is interested or that team is interested, but most of it will be complete BS that most likely originated in Philly.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#631 » by Ed Pinkney » Sat Jan 8, 2022 12:47 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Tatum, Brown and Simmons would be a disaster, from a salary cap perspective and a basketball perspective.
Unless Morey is willing to eat crow, Simmons won't be traded until the Summer. Oh sure, between now and the deadline there will a rumor every other day that this team is interested or that team is interested, but most of it will be complete BS that most likely originated in Philly.



Despite his very obvious flaws, I wouldn't mind seeing the Celtics giving Simmons a go if it didn't cost Tatum or Brown (which is unlikely). This current Celtics team is going nowhere (and seems to be breaking), having Tatum, Brown and Simmons means they would have three young All Star level players who are under contract for multiple seasons. If it works - great, if it doesn't work then they can see which two of the three seem like the better longer term fit and use the third player to trade for other more complimentary pieces.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#632 » by playa-hater » Sat Jan 8, 2022 12:49 am

In the madness of this season we're actually arguing about Westbrook in a trade thread.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#633 » by Feed Your Head » Sat Jan 8, 2022 1:03 am

Russell Westbrook?

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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#634 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jan 8, 2022 1:24 am

Sign Jordan Crawford. Couldn't hurt at this point. And GiGi Datome for shooting.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#635 » by djFan71 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 1:39 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Sign Jordan Crawford. Couldn't hurt at this point. And GiGi Datome for shooting.

Fun fact. GiGi actually stands for GoatGoat.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#636 » by reload141 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 1:43 am

zimpy27 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
I genuinely think he'd help the Celtics since he could run their offense. He has led top offenses in the league for many years.

And yeah, if it doesn't work then moving him will be easier as an expiring.

Yeah you can't be serious on this one.

No one is taking Westbrook, even as an expiring, at $40+ million. Come on man.

Also, I've dealt with enough pain the last few years, I'm not sure I can deal with the pain of having Westbrook on my team.


You have defensive focused coach and two wings that in the absence of a distributor play excessive iso ball.

Westbrook is a simple solution to the Celtics problems. He is an offensive system that can distribute the ball to Tatum and Brown, he will improve their shooting %s like he's done with every star player he's played with and his leadership will help sort out locker room problems.


Yep.

I'm onboard with this. Considering the cost of doing the trade too we can't really sink any lower and this is like a Chris Paul move (God I wish it was him, I was wanting him years ago) but we need some sort of PG.

Westbrook can drive/distribute and draw players away from Brown & Tatum who will have more open shots.

And he actually shows emotion and can be some sort of leader. At the end of the day, what ELSE is out there? Let's hear some other players that can be obtained while keeping Brown/Tatum/RWIII/Smart?
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#637 » by GoCeltics123 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 1:52 am

zimpy27 wrote:
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You have defensive focused coach and two wings that in the absence of a distributor play excessive iso ball.

Westbrook is a simple solution to the Celtics problems. He is an offensive system that can distribute the ball to Tatum and Brown, he will improve their shooting %s like he's done with every star player he's played with and his leadership will help sort out locker room problems.

Ok so there's so much wrong in this post but let's start with the obvious: what star did he actually improve the shooting percentage of? KD's was better since he left him. Paul George too. Is Beal the only one?

He also turns it over like crazy, can't shoot at all (and would be added to a team that already has no shooters), and doesn't play any defense so saying he's a fit on this team is **** nuts. Also, how is he a leader? When has he ever been a leader?

And then you remember the fact that his contract might be a top 3 bad one in the league and you question why you even ponder this in the first place.


Durant, LeBron, Harden, Beal.. On-Off with them has them shot better with him playing alongside them

It's clear you haven't followed much of Westbrook if you think he can't shoot at all and isn't a leader. This isn't Ben Simmons we are talking about.

You're right.

He's a lot worse than Ben Simmons. Ben plays defense at least.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#638 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jan 8, 2022 2:21 am

John Wall, anyone?
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#639 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat Jan 8, 2022 2:47 am

Curmudgeon wrote:John Wall, anyone?


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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#640 » by GoGreen » Sat Jan 8, 2022 3:26 am

I have no clue what this team can do and idk if the FO does, either. What an absolute dumpster fire.

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