NBA Trade Thread # 5

[StunnerKO]

TJ not suppose to play till mid late Jan , playoffs aren’t till April 16th that’s plenty of time for him to get into a groove . He’s been a professional scorer at all phases of his basketball career and highly efficient at it .

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[StunnerKO]

A guy to keep your eye on is T.J. Warren. He’s expected to return soon from a foot injury, but if healthy, he’d be a great fit at power forward. He shows up in the playoffs (dropped 53).

Chicago Receives:
T.J. Warren
Torrey Craig
Isaiah Jackson

Indiana Receives:
Patrick Williams
Derrick Jones Jr.

It would be tough to move Patrick Williams, but Isaiah Jackson is a guy I loved coming out. 6’10” 7’5” Wingspan with the quickness to stay in front of point guards. Hustles his @ss off. Has upside.

Torrey Craig is a menace on defense and would be nice insurance if Warren has any setbacks.

this the trade I came up with I’m not moving Pat it’s Coby honestly the player I’m sending with the blazers pick . TJ is a a rental since he’s an expiring I wouldn’t give up all too much but getting him and Craig for a playoff push would be great for us . The players talked about he’s the best scorer out of Barnes and Grant . Coby / TBJ / Blazers pick for Tj and Craig could get it done with Coby recent play and if he keeps it up. TJ would replace Coby’s scoring and provides are more consistent scorer especially helps Lavine and derozan not having to play with the bench more and grab an extra 3-4 mins or rest in games . Craig is a really good defender , AK helped get him with his time in Denver and from what we saw he gave derozan some problems before the game winner . Bulls defense slipped because they were missing two of their best point of the attack defenders in Lonzo and Caruso mostly . This would be a good turn out I think at the deadline because at least if you like TJ you could bring him back
If not he’s an expiring and then you keep Pat possibly .

Chicago:
TJ Warren
Torrey Craig
Isaiah Jackson
Justin Holiday

Indiana:
Coby White
TBJ
DJJ
2022 1st (POR)

Lonzo Ball / Alex Caruso / Max McClung
Zach LaVine / Justin Holiday / Ayo Dosunmu
DeMar DeRozan / Torrey Craig / Patrick Williams
TJ Warren / JaVonte Green / Isaiah Jackson
Nikola Vucevic / Tony Bradley / Marko Simonovic

This is doing too much you keep adding more lol just keep it simple no need to be greedy asking for all of that for Coby white and a pick that might not convey

[Wingy]

A guy to keep your eye on is T.J. Warren. He’s expected to return soon from a foot injury, but if healthy, he’d be a great fit at power forward. He shows up in the playoffs (dropped 53).

Chicago Receives:
T.J. Warren
Torrey Craig
Isaiah Jackson

Indiana Receives:
Patrick Williams
Derrick Jones Jr.

It would be tough to move Patrick Williams, but Isaiah Jackson is a guy I loved coming out. 6’10” 7’5” Wingspan with the quickness to stay in front of point guards. Hustles his @ss off. Has upside.

Torrey Craig is a menace on defense and would be nice insurance if Warren has any setbacks.

Hard pass. If we turn our best asset into TJ Warren I would riot. Patrick only moves for a real needle mover. If Patrick is getting traded it should be in a blockbuster or close to blockbuster trade.

What do you not like about TJ Warren? He has nearly averaged 20PPG for multiple seasons and would be a massive upgrade. Patrick Williams hasn’t shown enough to be treated like an untradeable asset.

Not a big fan either, not that you asked me. Availability is one of the most important abilities. Even beyond the significant foot injury, he has sucked in this area throughout his career.

[KissedByaRose1]

Bulls send
Coby White
DJJ
TBJ
2022 2nd (or our next available)

Kings Send
Harrison Barnes

[gobullschi]

Hard pass. If we turn our best asset into TJ Warren I would riot. Patrick only moves for a real needle mover. If Patrick is getting traded it should be in a blockbuster or close to blockbuster trade.

What do you not like about TJ Warren? He has nearly averaged 20PPG for multiple seasons and would be a massive upgrade. Patrick Williams hasn’t shown enough to be treated like an untradeable asset.

Not a big fan either, not that you asked me. Availability is one of the most important abilities. Even beyond the significant foot injury, he has sucked in this area throughout his career.

The more opinions the better. Just throwing ideas around and I hadn’t seen his name brought up. He fits that hybrid 3/4 that both AK and BD seem to want at power forward.

I agree that his injury history is a serious concern, but that’s also why his salary and trade value are far less than a typical 6’8” wing that can score at all three levels.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Bulls send
Coby White
DJJ
TBJ
2022 2nd (or our next available)

Kings Send
Harrison Barnes

I would rather just keep Coby and DJJ tbh. That seems like more of a lateral move than anything, if not worse with the way Coby is playing.

I know this doesn’t fit normal logic, but in order to become legit contenders we need to really win a trade. Like take advantage of a bad situation or just fleece someone. Add a real piece without losing pretty much anything of real value.

Otherwise, I might just try to find a 6-9 version of Javonte Green on the cheap. A defensive minded 4 that can guard the paint.

[TheSuzerain]

Bulls send
Coby White
DJJ
TBJ
2022 2nd (or our next available)

Kings Send
Harrison Barnes

I would rather just keep Coby and DJJ tbh. That seems like more of a lateral move than anything, if not worse with the way Coby is playing.

I know this doesn’t fit normal logic, but in order to become legit contenders we need to really win a trade. Like take advantage of a bad situation or just fleece someone. Add a real piece without losing pretty much anything of real value.

Otherwise, I might just try to find a 6-9 version of Javonte Green on the cheap. A defensive minded 4 that can guard the paint.

That is a no-brainer accept for us if the Kings will deal Barnes for that stuff.

[sco]

Bulls send
Coby White
DJJ
TBJ
2022 2nd (or our next available)

Kings Send
Harrison Barnes

I would rather just keep Coby and DJJ tbh. That seems like more of a lateral move than anything, if not worse with the way Coby is playing.

I know this doesn’t fit normal logic, but in order to become legit contenders we need to really win a trade. Like take advantage of a bad situation or just fleece someone. Add a real piece without losing pretty much anything of real value.

Otherwise, I might just try to find a 6-9 version of Javonte Green on the cheap. A defensive minded 4 that can guard the paint.

Barring a trade for Grant, I suspect our trade fodder will be limited to the POR pick and salary filler from TBJ, Bradley, and Thomas. Maybe it's me, but IMO Barnes doesn't offer enough upside over White (or Pat) to mess with.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Stacey King was on the latest episode of The Lowe Post.

Just his opinion, but trades came up that would help the Bulls make the finals. He brought up Jerami Grant and Myles Turner as solution he liked. Was really high on Turner.

Lowe straight up asked him, and said it was the most popular trade proposal in league circles, would he trade Pat Williams for Jerami Grant. King said that is a really tough answer, but did mention, hey, you have to give up something to get something. Depends on whether they think the FO sees Pat as a franchise cornerstone, or a nice rotational player.

[gobullschi]

Stacey King was on the latest episode of The Lowe Post.

Just his opinion, but trades came up that would help the Bulls make the finals. He brought up Jerami Grant and Myles Turner as solution he liked. Was really high on Turner.

Lowe straight up asked him, and said it was the most popular trade proposal in league circles, would he trade Pat Williams for Jerami Grant. King said that is a really tough answer, but did mention, hey, you have to give up something to get something. Depends on whether they think the FO sees Pat as a franchise cornerstone, or a nice rotational player.

I don’t get the love for Myles Turner. We already have Vucevic. Please explain this one to me.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Stacey King was on the latest episode of The Lowe Post.

Just his opinion, but trades came up that would help the Bulls make the finals. He brought up Jerami Grant and Myles Turner as solution he liked. Was really high on Turner.

Lowe straight up asked him, and said it was the most popular trade proposal in league circles, would he trade Pat Williams for Jerami Grant. King said that is a really tough answer, but did mention, hey, you have to give up something to get something. Depends on whether they think the FO sees Pat as a franchise cornerstone, or a nice rotational player.

I don’t get the love for Myles Turner. We already have Vucevic. Please explain this one to me.

I agree, I don’t like Myles Turner, especially for what the cost will be. Same reason I don’t like Wood. Neither can work at the 4, and you can try that, but it’s been proven to fail.

I’m just providing info on what King stated, more than anything.

[WindyCityBorn]

TJ not suppose to play till mid late Jan , playoffs aren’t till April 16th that’s plenty of time for him to get into a groove . He’s been a professional scorer at all phases of his basketball career and highly efficient at it .

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He will not fix our rebounding or defensive deficiencies. Neither will Grant or Barnes. We don’t need a scorer at PF.

[StunnerKO]

TJ not suppose to play till mid late Jan , playoffs aren’t till April 16th that’s plenty of time for him to get into a groove . He’s been a professional scorer at all phases of his basketball career and highly efficient at it .

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He will not fix our rebounding or defensive deficiencies. Neither will Grant or Barnes. We don’t need a scorer at PF.

He’s replacing Coby as a more consistent scorer( tho if this the real
Coby he can stay ) with size and adding Torrey Craig another strong defender with more muscle to play the 4/3 . That’s what the trade is for it was never meant to fix our bigs prob which we could possibly address in the buyout market . If you looking at grant or Barnes who prob be overpay I suggested Warren as a cheaper option.

[Ugly Duckling]

you know what, i always thought the prob was with reinsdorf (jerry). the blame tended to fall on krause and gar/pax, but who was the one hiring/overseeing them? i always jokingly said oprah or kanye should buy the bulls. but with michael, we've effectively had a change in ownership. there was some momentum there with gar/pax, but he went out and got akme and now were feasting

[Wingy]

you know what, i always thought the prob was with reinsdorf (jerry). the blame tended to fall on krause and gar/pax, but who was the one hiring/overseeing them? i always jokingly said oprah or kanye should buy the bulls. but with michael, we've effectively had a change in ownership. there was some momentum there with gar/pax, but he went out and got akme and now were feasting

Not buying it. Pony up and pay the tax for this team to bring in another difference maker, and then I might believe in real change.

[Dan Z]

What do you think of Jalen Smith on the Suns? There's a thread about him in the General Board.

He's young and is starting due to Ayton being out. The Suns also didn't exercise his option so he's a free agent at the end of the year (which means they might be willing to trade him, but I could be wrong about that).

I don't know a lot about him, but he seems like a young player who has potential.

[Clint Eastwood]

Boy would Kuzma be a good fit with the bulls. And he is not expensive and is 26 and i really liked what i saw from him defensively. With them having Avdija and Harrell, might they want to balance their team a bit and take Coby and DJJ for him?

[nomorezorro]

Lowe straight up asked him, and said it was the most popular trade proposal in league circles, would he trade Pat Williams for Jerami Grant.

this is really interesting. this feels like the most "logical" trade we can make, and in a best-case scenario grant is pretty close to the idealized fit for this team. but the trade working is dependent on him becoming a completely different player than he is right now. i don't know how you can feel comfortable pulling the trigger unless you backchannel that grant is OK being the #4 option and focusing on being a defense-first guy.

otherwise, if you're just crossing your fingers that a guy miraculously turns into an older version of himself, you might as well just save yourself some assets and go after robert covington

[gobullschi]

Boy would Kuzma be a good fit with the bulls. And he is not expensive and is 26 and i really liked what i saw from him defensively. With them having Avdija and Harrell, might they want to balance their team a bit and take Coby and DJJ for him?

Hachimura comes back too.

[panthermark]

We have a TPE
Knicks are toast
Taj Gibson?