Should Fred Van Vleet be an all-star?

[alevirfe]

The all star game isn't played on some nerds excel file. It's called All "Star" for a reason, and Fred ain't one.

Tell me you don't understand advanced statistics without telling me you don't understand advanced statistics

So… advanced stats say he’s better than KD. You’re right I don’t understand them, I’ll go with the old fashioned eye test.

which part of your eye is not working? what are you possibly seeing that negates Fred as an all-star? dude is ballin' putting up 21/7/5 on 58% TS and great defense lol

check out some of the numbers here. just crazy:
https://ca.nba.com/news/fred-vanvleet-raptors-nba-all-star-2022/yikk6thfq7r21pg067y9tboyf

[gpoon]

Fred simply isn't the guy who strikes me as All Star material. Stop trying to get guys into the big boy game who aren't stars. Whose spot is he taking? Tatum, Brown, Beal? C'mon man those guys are actual big name stars.

Funny how two of your big name stars play for the same team and have a worst record

[LivingLegend]

It's going to come down to Beal/Garland/FVV for 1 spot and the player/coaches vote is going to have people pulling their hair out.

If the Wiz keep sliding, team record might eliminate Beal. Then it will be FVV or Garland. Team record and the fact the game is in Cleveland might give the nod to Garland at the end of the day if the race is that tight

[PapaBear53]

Fred won this game in four mins in the 3rd quarter. Yeah Jazz were missing their best guys but Raps were playing their 4th in 6 nights, dog tired, no energy, and Fred just decided he wasn't going to let them lose and that was that.

He definitely should be an all star. He probably should make all nba if he keeps this up. What a performance!

The Jazz had exactly one, count 'em, one rotation player available tonight. So "All-Star" Fred VanVleet carried his team to victory over the Jazz' G League team. Congrats there, big guy!

Personally I'm not sure I'd put that on my resume.

[Big J]

Fred simply isn't the guy who strikes me as All Star material. Stop trying to get guys into the big boy game who aren't stars. Whose spot is he taking? Tatum, Brown, Beal? C'mon man those guys are actual big name stars.

Funny how two of your big name stars play for the same team and have a worst record

Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

[basketballRob]

Fred won this game in four mins in the 3rd quarter. Yeah Jazz were missing their best guys but Raps were playing their 4th in 6 nights, dog tired, no energy, and Fred just decided he wasn't going to let them lose and that was that.

He definitely should be an all star. He probably should make all nba if he keeps this up. What a performance!

The Jazz had exactly one, count 'em, one rotation player available tonight. So "All-Star" Fred VanVleet carried his team to victory over the Jazz' G League team. Congrats there, big guy!

Personally I'm not sure I'd put that on my resume.

He's been playing that way for several games. The Jazz G-league players played great.

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[VanWest82]

Fred won this game in four mins in the 3rd quarter. Yeah Jazz were missing their best guys but Raps were playing their 4th in 6 nights, dog tired, no energy, and Fred just decided he wasn't going to let them lose and that was that.

He definitely should be an all star. He probably should make all nba if he keeps this up. What a performance!

The Jazz had exactly one, count 'em, one rotation player available tonight. So "All-Star" Fred VanVleet carried his team to victory over the Jazz' G League team. Congrats there, big guy!

Personally I'm not sure I'd put that on my resume.

Right, and Fred practically apologized for having to come to the rescue in his postgame interview. The Jazz C team was playing really well and so he decided to go get the ball and score every time down for like 3-4 mins straight. It's always impressive when guys take over like that regardless of which NBA back ups they're playing against.

[pingpongrac]

Fred won this game in four mins in the 3rd quarter. Yeah Jazz were missing their best guys but Raps were playing their 4th in 6 nights, dog tired, no energy, and Fred just decided he wasn't going to let them lose and that was that.

He definitely should be an all star. He probably should make all nba if he keeps this up. What a performance!

The Jazz had exactly one, count 'em, one rotation player available tonight. So "All-Star" Fred VanVleet carried his team to victory over the Jazz' G League team. Congrats there, big guy!

Personally I'm not sure I'd put that on my resume.

He's been doing this for a while. 30 PPG, 5 REB, 8 APG on 45/48/97 shooting the last 7 games with just 8 total turnovers. Overall, 22/5/7 on 59 TS% for the season while leading the league in deflections and right near the top in almost every metric that measures impact.

Also, do you think people care about Klay's 37-point quarter coming against a bad Kings team? Nope. Scoring 20 points (7/7 from the field, 3 threes, 3/3 FT) with 3 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block and 1 assist in a 4-minute span is absolutely incredible regardless of the competition.

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[wayoftheroad]

Alot of posters here need to look in the mirror with their hot garbage takes on FVV. I am not the biggest FVV fan but he deserves it over guys like Lamelo, Garland, Trae and a handful of others. Bunch or scrubs on this board need to put some respect on his name.

[GSP]

He should easily. Demar being counted as a guard is ridiculous hes been a forward ever since he was a Spur

East guards should be Lavine, Harden, Trae, Fvv

[visionquest]

Read on Twitter

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Freddie "Logo" is a lock

[CoachD]

Yea why the hell is demar listed as a guard when he hasn't been one since 2017-18?

The nba all star ballot is casual

[Saciid11]

It's going to come down to Beal/Garland/FVV for 1 spot and the player/coaches vote is going to have people pulling their hair out.

If the Wiz keep sliding, team record might eliminate Beal. Then it will be FVV or Garland. Team record and the fact the game is in Cleveland might give the nod to Garland at the end of the day if the race is that tight

FVV plays at both end ... if it's down to those three guys then he definitely deserves it if Raptors keep playing like the way they are playing.

[Caped Crusader]

Fred simply isn't the guy who strikes me as All Star material. Stop trying to get guys into the big boy game who aren't stars. Whose spot is he taking? Tatum, Brown, Beal? C'mon man those guys are actual big name stars.

Funny how two of your big name stars play for the same team and have a worst record

Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

Define "star power". Sounds like you're just making things up along the way with vague statements.

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[Saciid11]

Funny how two of your big name stars play for the same team and have a worst record

Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

Define "star power". Sounds like you're just making things up along the way with vague statements.

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That is why Fans voting has ruined the All Star game ... Guys who deserve to be All Star are snubbed because they are not flashy. FVV is having amazing season not just at the offensive, but defensively he is an elite and gives 100% at that end .. but never gets the recognition he deserves.

[HurricaneKid]

I'm blown away that there are people that follow basketball that believe Beal and his 28.8% 3 pt % and his .540TS% (league avg is .556) while playing on a worse team should get in over FVV.

Can believe the embarrassment of this thread. FVV is absolutely an AS. It's not all that close.

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

He should be an all-star.


I desperately wanted the Knicks to sign him when he was a FA, love his game, he's basically Lowry the sequel.

[yoyoboy]

It's going to come down to Beal/Garland/FVV for 1 spot and the player/coaches vote is going to have people pulling their hair out.

If the Wiz keep sliding, team record might eliminate Beal. Then it will be FVV or Garland. Team record and the fact the game is in Cleveland might give the nod to Garland at the end of the day if the race is that tight

FVV plays at both end ... if it's down to those three guys then he definitely deserves it if Raptors keep playing like the way they are playing.

Garland’s been a rock solid defender this year, so that doesn’t apply. The Cavs have a 101.8 DRTG with Garland ON and both Allen and Mobley OFF the floor this season. Garland ranks 8th in the NBA in defensive RAPM this year and is a big contributor to the Cavs’ 3rd ranked DRTG. He’s a smart team defender who rotates well and competes 1 on 1, is the most vocal communicator on that end on the team, and plays the passing lanes.

[Wargreymon]

People saying Beal, Tatum and Brown deserve to get in ahead of FVV are going by reputation and “sexy” picks. Those 3 guys have some of the worst volume chucking efficiency stats and it’s no coincidence their teams are out of the playoff picture. Only 5 guards in the East I would consider over FvV are Lavine, DeFrozen, James Soften, Garland, and maybe Trae Young but not even sure about him since team record is trash

[djsunyc]

there's a whole lotta teams that don't deserve 2 all stars in the east especially since all the records are so close together.