NBA Trade Thread # 5

OldSchoolNoBull · Post #181 » by **OldSchoolNoBull** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 6:42 am

panthermark wrote:We have a TPE
Knicks are toast
Taj Gibson?

Could be a solid move as long as we aren't giving up anything of value.

I haven't watched any Knicks games besides when we played them...how is Taj's defense these days?

panthermark · Post #182 » by **panthermark** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:00 am

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
panthermark wrote:We have a TPE
Knicks are toast
Taj Gibson?

Could be a solid move as long as we aren't giving up anything of value.

I haven't watched any Knicks games besides when we played them...how is Taj's defense these days?

Good question. I was just looking at salaries from players on bad teams. I would hate to waste a TPE.

panthermark · Post #183 » by **panthermark** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:19 am

Clint Eastwood wrote:Boy would Kuzma be a good fit with the bulls. And he is not expensive and is 26 and i really liked what i saw from him defensively. With them having Avdija and Harrell, might they want to balance their team a bit and take Coby and DJJ for him?

PWill and TBJ would work salary wise as well.
I think his level of play would put this team over the top. He is very streaky...and wears ugly sweaters....but his "level" of play and length would put this team over the top IMO.

He has two years left on his deal after this year, but the last year is a player option...so I'm guessing he opts out (maybe). Played with Caruso for 4 years and has a ring.

Bulls2021 · Post #184 » by **Bulls2021** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:25 am

From what I've read, Larry Nance Jr has been an above average defender during his career. He's 6'7 with a 7'1 wingspan. Mainly a PF, can play C too. Became respectable from the 3 last year, but has kind of lost it. Is a trade revolving around him for DJJ a lateral move?

I know a lot of people have been saying the Portland pick has the most value to Portland because the protection limits their ability to trade the pick until it conveys. Is this trade below an overpay?

DJJ + Portland protected 1st
Larry Nance Jr and the 2022 Portland 2nd

Portland is pretty bad and looks like they'll be bad this entire season due to injuries. The 2nd will be a high pick. That 1st rounder also may not convey for a long time. AKME did have the chance to get Nance this offseason though and opted for DJJ and the 1st of I recall. The trade might be an overpay too. Nance just seems like a great fit, especially if he can become respectable from the 3 pt line again.

ChiCitySPORTS#1 · Post #185 » by **ChiCitySPORTS#1** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:29 am

Bulls2021 wrote:From what I've read, Larry Nance Jr has been an above average defender during his career. He's 6'7 with a 7'1 wingspan. Mainly a PF, can play C too. Became respectable from the 3 last year, but has kind of lost it. Is a trade revolving around him for DJJ a lateral move?

I know a lot of people have been saying the Portland pick has the most value to Portland because the protection limits their ability to trade the pick until it conveys. Is this trade below an overpay?

DJJ + Portland protected 1st
Larry Nance Jr and the 2022 Portland 2nd

Portland is pretty bad and looks like they'll be bad this entire season due to injuries. The 2nd will be a high pick. That 1st rounder also may not convey for a long time. AKME did have the chance to get Nance this offseason though and opted for DJJ and the 1st of I recall. The trade might be an overpay too. Nance just seems like a great fit, especially if he can become respectable from the 3 pt line again.

I’m not sure if you’re joking or not, but Larry Nance Jr was literally part of the trade that landed us DJJ and their pick….we decided against having him. You’re almost describing the exact trade that include Markkanen

Bulls2021 · Post #186 » by **Bulls2021** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:37 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Bulls2021 wrote:From what I've read, Larry Nance Jr has been an above average defender during his career. He's 6'7 with a 7'1 wingspan. Mainly a PF, can play C too. Became respectable from the 3 last year, but has kind of lost it. Is a trade revolving around him for DJJ a lateral move?

I know a lot of people have been saying the Portland pick has the most value to Portland because the protection limits their ability to trade the pick until it conveys. Is this trade below an overpay?

DJJ + Portland protected 1st
Larry Nance Jr and the 2022 Portland 2nd

Portland is pretty bad and looks like they'll be bad this entire season due to injuries. The 2nd will be a high pick. That 1st rounder also may not convey for a long time. AKME did have the chance to get Nance this offseason though and opted for DJJ and the 1st of I recall. The trade might be an overpay too. Nance just seems like a great fit, especially if he can become respectable from the 3 pt line again.

I’m not sure if you’re joking or not, but Larry Nance Jr was literally part of the trade that landed us DJJ and their pick….we decided against having him. You’re almost describing the exact trade that include Markkanen

I literally said that in my post. AKME opted to get DJJ and the protected 1st. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be useful to the team or AKME didn't want it. AKME probably wanted the 1st more than anything. I think it's likely an overpay, but a high 2nd round pick isn't MUCH worse than a top 16 protected 1st that may not convey for a long time.

ChiCitySPORTS#1 · Post #187 » by **ChiCitySPORTS#1** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:40 am

Bulls2021 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Bulls2021 wrote:From what I've read, Larry Nance Jr has been an above average defender during his career. He's 6'7 with a 7'1 wingspan. Mainly a PF, can play C too. Became respectable from the 3 last year, but has kind of lost it. Is a trade revolving around him for DJJ a lateral move?

I know a lot of people have been saying the Portland pick has the most value to Portland because the protection limits their ability to trade the pick until it conveys. Is this trade below an overpay?

DJJ + Portland protected 1st
Larry Nance Jr and the 2022 Portland 2nd

Portland is pretty bad and looks like they'll be bad this entire season due to injuries. The 2nd will be a high pick. That 1st rounder also may not convey for a long time. AKME did have the chance to get Nance this offseason though and opted for DJJ and the 1st of I recall. The trade might be an overpay too. Nance just seems like a great fit, especially if he can become respectable from the 3 pt line again.

I’m not sure if you’re joking or not, but Larry Nance Jr was literally part of the trade that landed us DJJ and their pick….we decided against having him. You’re almost describing the exact trade that include Markkanen

I literally said that in my post. AKME opted to get DJJ and the protected 1st. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be useful to the team or AKME didn't want it. AKME probably wanted the 1st more than anything. I think it's likely an overpay, but a high 2nd round pick isn't MUCH worse than a top 16 protected 1st that may not convey for a long time.

Oh, you did. But why ask the question when we know with actual certainty that it’s not going to happen. Like we have proof that it won’t lol.

Bulls2021 · Post #188 » by **Bulls2021** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:41 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Bulls2021 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:

I’m not sure if you’re joking or not, but Larry Nance Jr was literally part of the trade that landed us DJJ and their pick….we decided against having him. You’re almost describing the exact trade that include Markkanen

I literally said that in my post. AKME opted to get DJJ and the protected 1st. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be useful to the team or AKME didn't want it. AKME probably wanted the 1st more than anything. I think it's likely an overpay, but a high 2nd round pick isn't MUCH worse than a top 16 protected 1st that may not convey for a long time.

Oh, you did. But why ask the question when we know with actual certainty that it’s not going to happen. Like we have proof that it won’t lol.

How do we have proof that it won't happen?

Dez · Post #189 » by **Dez** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:08 am

Bulls2021 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Bulls2021 wrote:I literally said that in my post. AKME opted to get DJJ and the protected 1st. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be useful to the team or AKME didn't want it. AKME probably wanted the 1st more than anything. I think it's likely an overpay, but a high 2nd round pick isn't MUCH worse than a top 16 protected 1st that may not convey for a long time.

Oh, you did. But why ask the question when we know with actual certainty that it’s not going to happen. Like we have proof that it won’t lol.

How do we have proof that it won't happen?

That they chose DJJ and the 1st.......

Dez · Post #190 » by **Dez** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:09 am

panthermark wrote:
Clint Eastwood wrote:Boy would Kuzma be a good fit with the bulls. And he is not expensive and is 26 and i really liked what i saw from him defensively. With them having Avdija and Harrell, might they want to balance their team a bit and take Coby and DJJ for him?

PWill and TBJ would work salary wise as well.
I think his level of play would put this team over the top. He is very streaky...and wears ugly sweaters....but his "level" of play and length would put this team over the top IMO.

He has two years left on his deal after this year, but the last year is a player option...so I'm guessing he opts out (maybe). Played with Caruso for 4 years and has a ring.

Kyle Kuzma puts nobody over the top.

ChiCitySPORTS#1 · Post #191 » by **ChiCitySPORTS#1** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:15 am

Dez wrote:
Bulls2021 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Oh, you did. But why ask the question when we know with actual certainty that it’s not going to happen. Like we have proof that it won’t lol.

How do we have proof that it won't happen?

That they chose DJJ and the 1st.......

Lolol this exact scenario has already happened

pipfan · Post #192 » by **pipfan** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:30 am

When we did the Lauri deal, we wanted a 1st. I highly doubt AKME had anything against Nance. Honestly, I like DJJ more than Lauri-so that trade was a huge win
But, that doesn't mean we wouldn't want Nance-he is one of my targets due to his great fit
Problem is, we can't trade DJJ back to Port

Bulls2021 · Post #193 » by **Bulls2021** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:35 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Dez wrote:
Bulls2021 wrote:How do we have proof that it won't happen?

That they chose DJJ and the 1st.......

Lolol this exact scenario has already happened

You missed the part about getting their 2nd rounder I see.

Bulls2021 · Post #194 » by **Bulls2021** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:42 am

pipfan wrote:When we did the Lauri deal, we wanted a 1st. I highly doubt AKME had anything against Nance. Honestly, I like DJJ more than Lauri-so that trade was a huge win
But, that doesn't mean we wouldn't want Nance-he is one of my targets due to his great fit
Problem is, we can't trade DJJ back to Port

Good call. They would need a 3rd team involved, which shouldn't be too difficult

Dez · Post #195 » by **Dez** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:49 am

Bulls2021 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Dez wrote:
That they chose DJJ and the 1st.......

Lolol this exact scenario has already happened

You missed the part about getting their 2nd rounder I see.

You missed the part where they chose DJJ and the 1st instead of Nance, if they wanted him then they would've traded for him originally.

RSP83 · Post #196 » by **RSP83** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 12:50 pm

The trade deadline is due in a month, and I think its fair to say that we still haven't seen this team at its full potential. Earlier we didn't have Coby, then when he's back and playing at his full strength, Caruso and Javonte went down. Despite that here we are the top of the East riding on a 9 game winning streak. It's not crazy to think that when everybody is back 100% we are going to be scary good. We're already leading the league on offense now, and when Caruso and Javonte returns, we should be going back to playing Top 10 defense.

So on one side, I'll be ok with staying pat. However, I also know that Derozan and Vuc's clock is ticking and we don't want to waste their prime year. Maybe if there is a significant key piece we can get that's really worth it, then we should go for it. I'm just not sure what is available out there. I'm just going to trust AK on this.

NecessaryEvil · Post #197 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 2:05 pm

Bradley, TBJ, Portland Pick, 2nd rounders etc. That's where I'm at with tradeable assets. Atleast, guys I'd be willing to move for better parts. I feel like the addition of Mckinnie somewhat, makes TBJ expendable as they can do much of the same things.

Zach, Vooch, DeMar, Coby, Ball, Caruso, Green, DJJ, Pat & Ayo are the true keepers in my eyes. Let that core continue to build continuity and it will pay off before Deebo is ready for an extension. I believe it.

RSP83 · Post #198 » by **RSP83** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 2:08 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Bradley, TBJ, Portland Pick, 2nd rounders etc. That's where I'm at with tradeable assets. Atleast, guys I'd be willing to move for better parts. I feel like the addition of Mckinnie somewhat, makes TBJ expendable as they can do much of the same things.

Zach, Vooch, DeMar, Coby, Ball, Caruso, Green, DJJ, Pat & Ayo are the true keepers in my eyes. Let that core continue to build continuity and it will pay off before Deebo is ready for an extension. I believe it.

If adding Pat to that list gets you Jerami Grant or Harrison Barnes, would you do it?

NecessaryEvil · Post #199 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 2:11 pm

RSP83 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Bradley, TBJ, Portland Pick, 2nd rounders etc. That's where I'm at with tradeable assets. Atleast, guys I'd be willing to move for better parts. I feel like the addition of Mckinnie somewhat, makes TBJ expendable as they can do much of the same things.

Zach, Vooch, DeMar, Coby, Ball, Caruso, Green, DJJ, Pat & Ayo are the true keepers in my eyes. Let that core continue to build continuity and it will pay off before Deebo is ready for an extension. I believe it.

If adding Pat to that list gets you Jerami Grant or Harrison Barnes, would you do it?

I'm not sure. The answer should be 'yes' but, I have high hopes for Pat.

At the same time, Grant is ultimately what you what Pat to be in the long term but IMO Pat has higher upside.

If you can get that level of veteran production for Pat right now, I believe you have to.

So, yeah, I would. I've been a fan of Jerami since OKC. I saw it very early but didn't think he'd be THIS good.

We're going to have to make sacrafices at some point but I wouldn't move Pat for Harrison. I'd rather wait on a better upgrade.

Besides, we all know what having two all-star wings plus a Grant at PF can get you in Chicago.

StunnerKO · Post #200 » by **StunnerKO** » Sat Jan 8, 2022 2:36 pm

Bulls2021 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
Bulls2021 wrote:I literally said that in my post. AKME opted to get DJJ and the protected 1st. That doesn't mean he still wouldn't be useful to the team or AKME didn't want it. AKME probably wanted the 1st more than anything. I think it's likely an overpay, but a high 2nd round pick isn't MUCH worse than a top 16 protected 1st that may not convey for a long time.

Oh, you did. But why ask the question when we know with actual certainty that it’s not going to happen. Like we have proof that it won’t lol.

How do we have proof that it won't happen?

First off you can’t trade a player back to the team he was trade from in the same season