Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#21 » by Wargreymon » Sat Jan 8, 2022 6:57 pm

30 is the new 20. Curry will be MVP and finals MVP this year for the first time in his career during the same year. We all know Iggy stole the FMVP from Curry like Kawhi stole one from Tim Duncan.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#22 » by JN61 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:06 pm

KGtabake wrote:Every time a thread like this one appears, Steph goes nuclear.


Last 15 games he is averaging 25.5ppg, 5.3 ast and 3.7 turnovers. On 37.9% FG and 35.6% 3point%. He has in this span of games, 6 games over 40% shooting... So sure maybe he goes one game where he shoots 60% and has 40 points but he will follow that with 5 games with bellow 40% shooting and more than likely missing 8 or more 3 point shots on almost all of those games.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#23 » by canada_dry » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:07 pm

Ever since the warriors stupidly put it out there that he might make the last 16 threes in one game to break the record, hes been playing inconsistently and just shooting bad. Check the game log.

He'll come out of it tho. Things will even out.

The question is has he forfeited that mvp that looked to be his for the taking, even if he rebounds from this?

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#24 » by MrBigShot » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:18 pm

He will never reach 2015-2016 regular season levels, but this is more of a shooting slump than anything. He was playing excellent early on in the season and leading the MVP convo.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#25 » by JN61 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:20 pm

canada_dry wrote:Ever since the warriors stupidly put it out there that he might make the last 16 threes in one game to break the record, hes been playing inconsistently and just shooting bad. Check the game log.

He'll come out of it tho. Things will even out.

The question is has he forfeited that mvp that looked to be his for the taking, even if he rebounds from this?

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Nah. It's not just 3 point shooting.. He is almost 10% worse from inside than his normal scoring accuracy combined with career low numbers scored inside basically. He is definitely on a decline and can't blow past people. Defenders still fearing his old shooting is basically the only reason he gets some layups in games these days on contested layups he shoots pretty poorly.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#26 » by Winsome Gerbil » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:26 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:In other words, another "exposed" thread.

Phraudcat would be proud.


Curry's a couple of months from being 34, and an injury prone 34 at that. One of these "exposed" threads very soon is going to turn out to be right. For a small guard, it's definitely about time.

One thing to note though is that the reason his FG% is so low is because he's just become a complete one-dimensional 3pt chucker. Back in his MVP days 55% of hsi shots were threes, which was ridiculous. But now it's up to 65%, and he's not hitting them as well. And part of that is his inability to get clear and finish cleanly inside. Which itself could be age/quickness related. He looks awkward when not shooting a three, and the threes, even for Curry, begin to be giveups after a while.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#27 » by canada_dry » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:28 pm

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canada_dry wrote:Ever since the warriors stupidly put it out there that he might make the last 16 threes in one game to break the record, hes been playing inconsistently and just shooting bad. Check the game log.

He'll come out of it tho. Things will even out.

The question is has he forfeited that mvp that looked to be his for the taking, even if he rebounds from this?

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Nah. It's not just 3 point shooting.. He is almost 10% worse from inside than his normal scoring accuracy combined with career low numbers scored inside basically. He is definitely on a decline and can't blow past people. Defenders still fearing his old shooting is basically the only reason he gets some layups in games these days on contested layups he shoots pretty poorly.
Its scoring in general i know. But it started since then. Ive been following along.

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#28 » by Lalouie » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:34 pm

curry is not 6'11 like kd or 6'8/255 like lebron

his game will last because shooters can always shoot. he will probably be able to outshhot players 10 yrs from now.

but his legs will go and his quickness with drop, and again,,,he's not "physically" overpowering like kd or lebron
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#29 » by Lunartic » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:44 pm

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Lunartic wrote:If we're just going by his shooting numbers declining, it's possible it's simply due to his teammates being the worst he's played with since he broke out.

It's much easier to be efficient when playing next to the second GOAT shooter and possibly the second GOAT scorer


It's pretty obvious his teammates are better this year than last.



I meant from his MVP seasons to now, and last season's 3% was lower than the most of the seasons that proceeded it. It would mark the second worst 3% of his career.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#30 » by UcanUwill » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:54 pm

3 bad games shooting the ball and the sky is falling for some people.... This board never learn
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#31 » by levon » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:22 pm

I don't think Steph is close to his cliff at 33-34. That said, he's posting his lowest TS% in the last 10 years if you ignore the 5 bs games he played in 19-20. I expect that to climb or skyrocket with Klay back.

My problem with Curry is actually his playmaking against ball pressure. That Memphis play-in elimination game doesn't get talked about enough. I expect that to decline because he won't be able to create the clean angles to make those passes as he ages.

He'll always be lethal as a shooter, but the amount he runs will also decline.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#32 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:32 pm

I think this has more to do with the amount of attention Curry is drawing by playing without a real 2nd option for a long stretch. The Warriors have a lot of great depth pieces and even a great 3rd option in Wiggins and 4th option in Poole but no one respects these guys enough to stay at home at Currys expense.

Getting Klay back will surely open things up for him as Klay gets his rhythm back. I'll wait to judge him at the end of the year.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#33 » by DoItALL9 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:33 pm

He needs a teammate who can really help take some of the pressure off of him so he can get cleaner looks.

I think this can be arranged.

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#34 » by theoilslick » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:06 pm

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Curry's a couple of months from being 34, and an injury prone 34 at that. One of these "exposed" threads very soon is going to turn out to be right. For a small guard, it's definitely about time.

One thing to note though is that the reason his FG% is so low is because he's just become a complete one-dimensional 3pt chucker. Back in his MVP days 55% of hsi shots were threes, which was ridiculous. But now it's up to 65%, and he's not hitting them as well. And part of that is his inability to get clear and finish cleanly inside. Which itself could be age/quickness related. He looks awkward when not shooting a three, and the threes, even for Curry, begin to be giveups after a while.


Riiight….In “3pt chucker” Curry’s 2020-21 RS his TS% 65.5, 3P% 42.1 and eFG% 60.1.

His “awkward” 2021-22 RS shows TS% 59.1, 3P% 38.8 and eFG% 54.5.

His 3P% is at its lowest, but compare this season’s point guards as they are 34.9 for the average 3P%. He’s still shooting 3s more efficiently than the average PG Joe.

And on behalf of analysts, please get off your FG% jockstrap. It’s inaccurate for measuring true offense efficiency.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#35 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:18 pm

He's probably 90% of what he was last year and next year he will probably be 90% of what he was this year. Which is usually what starts to happen once a guy turns 31-32. Which for 90% of guys means they are out of the league at 34 or 35 if that. He's still easily a top 10 player since box score doesn't fully reflect his team value but its sort of silly to expect him to still be at close to his best at 33 given that he's had two season ending injuries in his career plus a few other minor injuries mostly all to his ankles and knees.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#36 » by KembaWalker » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:22 pm

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#37 » by SpreeChokeJob » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:24 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:I think this has more to do with the amount of attention Curry is drawing by playing without a real 2nd option for a long stretch. The Warriors have a lot of great depth pieces and even a great 3rd option in Wiggins and 4th option in Poole but no one respects these guys enough to stay at home at Currys expense.

Getting Klay back will surely open things up for him as Klay gets his rhythm back. I'll wait to judge him at the end of the year.


This. Guy has three guys hugging him throughout the game. His numbers may not look good, but the others numbers look a ton better. If you look at a game without Curry like the one against the Pelicans. The other guys without Curry were not getting any separation from their defender at all. Wiggins was the only player that could create some sort of shot on his own.

The second thing is that since he’s become stronger, he plays more aggressively on defense. Unlike other stars that take plays off. He plays hard on both ends in the minutes he’s in there.

Add in the whole circus of the record thing. It’s been a wild first half of the year. I think things will stabilize at latter half of the year. Going by Dell’s genes, his father’s three point shot didn’t slip until he reached 36. Curry’s got another 2 more years, probably tack on one more with today’s medical advances.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#38 » by Ballerhogger » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:25 pm

Pharmact you can’t fool me!! But he’s had bad month or so… but he started out great
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#39 » by Ballerhogger » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:26 pm

KembaWalker wrote:GSW fans, if you're paying dudes under the table to make threads like this, I'm available

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#40 » by LesGrossman » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:30 pm

When everything is said and done, Steph will be the GOAT of the 2000's. He just succeeds with every group he plays with, without stacking the deck, flipping between clubs to gain an advantage, without drama and while massively helping with the development of talent again and again. Who else can look at such a body of work in this generation? Pop, maybe.
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