[Kyle Neubeck] The Kings are open to trading De’Aaron Fox and/or Tyrese Haliburton for the right deals

[_qubik]

You don't think the upgrade from Green to Barnes is similar to the upgrade from Fox to Simmons?

I think that Barnes is duplicative with Harris, who is still a Sixer after this deal. So Green for Barnes just means the Sixers are down a wing and have a 20M backup PF. Also there needs to be somewhat significant value added to Fox to get Simmons.

Philly's the one who's going to be adding pieces here buddy. Nobody is trading a star for complimentary piece like Simmons, you'd think eight months of getting zilch would have taught you that already.

Also, Barnes is a 3+D guy who can defend SFs and PFs well, he's like the opposite of Harris. He's averaging 16/6 on 41% from 3, you're high if you think Green for Barnes isn't a significant upgrade.

hmm, I agree with him, and disagree with you. Ok to consider Fox a star, I might do it too, but he is a rising one, that commit a lot of errors, isnt a great shooter, what would be ideal to pair Embiid with, but yes, he is a star. Fox isnt a young player anymore, he is already on a max deal, we should expect a high level of play. Also I agree that Simmons is a complementary piece, the point here is, Simmons is one of the best complementary pieces on the league on my view, in the right roster he will play on the fastbreaks, pass to the open man, help on the boards and be a defensive nightmare, while Fox is among the lesser stars, for me a great complementary piece is better than a so so star.

Barnes is very good, and I wished Miami to chase him in a trade, he would be very nice in our roster, though PJ Tucker is playing very nice. Though Barnes cant play the 3, or better saying, he is much better playing the 4, and Tobias too, the Sixers know he isnt a viable 3, its redundant. Talent wise its nice return for Simmons, but not the best fit for the Sixers. They have Embiid, who might be a viable fulcrum of a title team, they cant make a mistake with a big trade now, it would be hard to get off of Fox contract if this doesnt work

[the_process]

Philly's the one who's going to be adding pieces here buddy. Nobody is trading a star for complimentary piece like Simmons, you'd think eight months of getting zilch would have taught you that already.

Also, Barnes is a 3+D guy who can defend SFs and PFs well, he's like the opposite of Harris. He's averaging 16/6 on 41% from 3, you're high if you think Green for Barnes isn't a significant upgrade.

Nah buddy, we’re fine down here keeping Simmons rather than taking some mediocre package. You would think you all would’ve figured this out after eight months, eh guy?

Man, Raps fans really are the cream de la cream.

Yeah, we're all aware, it's why you're the laughingstock of the league right now.

Keep on keeping on with whatever storylines you like to invent. I hear Tampa is nice this time of the year.

[WuriderX]

WTF does Philly think they are getting here? Haliburton or Fox would be home runs.

Nope. Better to hold Simmons than settle for Fox or Haliburton/Hield/pick.

I don't think people are paying attention to who Fox actually is as a player and that he's now making the max. This isn't some valuable asset. He's never going to be a top 10 PG.

Truest words spoken. Fox is now making max money.

[realball]

I think that Barnes is duplicative with Harris, who is still a Sixer after this deal. So Green for Barnes just means the Sixers are down a wing and have a 20M backup PF. Also there needs to be somewhat significant value added to Fox to get Simmons.

Philly's the one who's going to be adding pieces here buddy. Nobody is trading a star for complimentary piece like Simmons, you'd think eight months of getting zilch would have taught you that already.

Also, Barnes is a 3+D guy who can defend SFs and PFs well, he's like the opposite of Harris. He's averaging 16/6 on 41% from 3, you're high if you think Green for Barnes isn't a significant upgrade.

hmm, I agree with him, and disagree with you. Ok to consider Fox a star, I might do it too, but he is a rising one, that commit a lot of errors, isnt a great shooter, what would be ideal to pair Embiid with, but yes, he is a star. Fox isnt a young player anymore, he is already on a max deal, we should expect a high level of play. Also I agree that Simmons is a complementary piece, the point here is, Simmons is one of the best complementary pieces on the league on my view, in the right roster he will play on the fastbreaks, pass to the open man, help on the boards and be a defensive nightmare, while Fox is among the lesser stars, for me a great complementary piece is better than a so so star.

Barnes is very good, and I wished Miami to chase him in a trade, he would be very nice in our roster, though PJ Tucker is playing very nice. Though Barnes cant play the 3, or better saying, he is much better playing the 4, and Tobias too, the Sixers know he isnt a viable 3, its redundant. Talent wise its nice return for Simmons, but not the best fit for the Sixers. They have Embiid, who might be a viable fulcrum of a title team, they cant make a mistake with a big trade now, it would be hard to get off of Fox contract if this doesnt work

Dude what the hell are you talking about? Barnes literally started at the 3 for a championship team. You would rather have a complimentary piece than a actual star? We've already seen how that plays out in the playoffs. Why would Fox be anymore difficult to move than Simons right now? Just the most bizarre reasons to not make a trade... anyone with a brain is going to choose a lead who can drop 20 ppg over a complimentary piece giving you 12 ppg. You think the Sixers would have rather had Seth Curry or Ben Simmons in the playoffs.

[the_process]

Philly's the one who's going to be adding pieces here buddy. Nobody is trading a star for complimentary piece like Simmons, you'd think eight months of getting zilch would have taught you that already.

Also, Barnes is a 3+D guy who can defend SFs and PFs well, he's like the opposite of Harris. He's averaging 16/6 on 41% from 3, you're high if you think Green for Barnes isn't a significant upgrade.

hmm, I agree with him, and disagree with you. Ok to consider Fox a star, I might do it too, but he is a rising one, that commit a lot of errors, isnt a great shooter, what would be ideal to pair Embiid with, but yes, he is a star. Fox isnt a young player anymore, he is already on a max deal, we should expect a high level of play. Also I agree that Simmons is a complementary piece, the point here is, Simmons is one of the best complementary pieces on the league on my view, in the right roster he will play on the fastbreaks, pass to the open man, help on the boards and be a defensive nightmare, while Fox is among the lesser stars, for me a great complementary piece is better than a so so star.

That was 7 years ago. Barnes is not a 3 anymore.
Barnes is very good, and I wished Miami to chase him in a trade, he would be very nice in our roster, though PJ Tucker is playing very nice. Though Barnes cant play the 3, or better saying, he is much better playing the 4, and Tobias too, the Sixers know he isnt a viable 3, its redundant. Talent wise its nice return for Simmons, but not the best fit for the Sixers. They have Embiid, who might be a viable fulcrum of a title team, they cant make a mistake with a big trade now, it would be hard to get off of Fox contract if this doesnt work

Dude what the hell are you talking about? Barnes literally started at the 3 for a championship team. You would rather have a complimentary piece than a actual star? We've already seen how that plays out in the playoffs. Why would Fox be anymore difficult to move than Simons right now? Just the most bizarre reasons to not make a trade... anyone with a brain is going to choose a lead who can drop 20 ppg over a complimentary piece giving you 12 ppg. You think the Sixers would have rather had Seth Curry or Ben Simmons in the playoffs.

[the_process]

Philly's the one who's going to be adding pieces here buddy. Nobody is trading a star for complimentary piece like Simmons, you'd think eight months of getting zilch would have taught you that already.

Also, Barnes is a 3+D guy who can defend SFs and PFs well, he's like the opposite of Harris. He's averaging 16/6 on 41% from 3, you're high if you think Green for Barnes isn't a significant upgrade.

hmm, I agree with him, and disagree with you. Ok to consider Fox a star, I might do it too, but he is a rising one, that commit a lot of errors, isnt a great shooter, what would be ideal to pair Embiid with, but yes, he is a star. Fox isnt a young player anymore, he is already on a max deal, we should expect a high level of play. Also I agree that Simmons is a complementary piece, the point here is, Simmons is one of the best complementary pieces on the league on my view, in the right roster he will play on the fastbreaks, pass to the open man, help on the boards and be a defensive nightmare, while Fox is among the lesser stars, for me a great complementary piece is better than a so so star.

Barnes is very good, and I wished Miami to chase him in a trade, he would be very nice in our roster, though PJ Tucker is playing very nice. Though Barnes cant play the 3, or better saying, he is much better playing the 4, and Tobias too, the Sixers know he isnt a viable 3, its redundant. Talent wise its nice return for Simmons, but not the best fit for the Sixers. They have Embiid, who might be a viable fulcrum of a title team, they cant make a mistake with a big trade now, it would be hard to get off of Fox contract if this doesnt work

Dude what the hell are you talking about? Barnes literally started at the 3 for a championship team. You would rather have a complimentary piece than a actual star? We've already seen how that plays out in the playoffs. Why would Fox be anymore difficult to move than Simons right now? Just the most bizarre reasons to not make a trade... anyone with a brain is going to choose a lead who can drop 20 ppg over a complimentary piece giving you 12 ppg. You think the Sixers would have rather had Seth Curry or Ben Simmons in the playoffs.

That was 7 years ago. Barnes is not a 3 anymore.

[art_tatum]

Kings are clowns if they trade away Hali

[SNPA]

hmm, I agree with him, and disagree with you. Ok to consider Fox a star, I might do it too, but he is a rising one, that commit a lot of errors, isnt a great shooter, what would be ideal to pair Embiid with, but yes, he is a star. Fox isnt a young player anymore, he is already on a max deal, we should expect a high level of play. Also I agree that Simmons is a complementary piece, the point here is, Simmons is one of the best complementary pieces on the league on my view, in the right roster he will play on the fastbreaks, pass to the open man, help on the boards and be a defensive nightmare, while Fox is among the lesser stars, for me a great complementary piece is better than a so so star.

Barnes is very good, and I wished Miami to chase him in a trade, he would be very nice in our roster, though PJ Tucker is playing very nice. Though Barnes cant play the 3, or better saying, he is much better playing the 4, and Tobias too, the Sixers know he isnt a viable 3, its redundant. Talent wise its nice return for Simmons, but not the best fit for the Sixers. They have Embiid, who might be a viable fulcrum of a title team, they cant make a mistake with a big trade now, it would be hard to get off of Fox contract if this doesnt work

Dude what the hell are you talking about? Barnes literally started at the 3 for a championship team. You would rather have a complimentary piece than a actual star? We've already seen how that plays out in the playoffs. Why would Fox be anymore difficult to move than Simons right now? Just the most bizarre reasons to not make a trade... anyone with a brain is going to choose a lead who can drop 20 ppg over a complimentary piece giving you 12 ppg. You think the Sixers would have rather had Seth Curry or Ben Simmons in the playoffs.

That was 7 years ago. Barnes is not a 3 anymore.

He starts at the three.

[the_process]

Dude what the hell are you talking about? Barnes literally started at the 3 for a championship team. You would rather have a complimentary piece than a actual star? We've already seen how that plays out in the playoffs. Why would Fox be anymore difficult to move than Simons right now? Just the most bizarre reasons to not make a trade... anyone with a brain is going to choose a lead who can drop 20 ppg over a complimentary piece giving you 12 ppg. You think the Sixers would have rather had Seth Curry or Ben Simmons in the playoffs.

That was 7 years ago. Barnes is not a 3 anymore.

He starts at the three.

That could have something to do with why the Kings are where they are. I’m not playing him at the 3 on my team.

[SNPA]

That was 7 years ago. Barnes is not a 3 anymore.

He starts at the three.

That could have something to do with why the Kings are where they are. I’m not playing him at the 3 on my team.

Yeah, no. That’s not the reason lol.

Barnes can play the three just fine. He can play the four too.

[agkagk]

Kings are clowns if they trade away Hali

Then his bags are packed.

[realball]

That was 7 years ago. Barnes is not a 3 anymore.

He starts at the three.

That could have something to do with why the Kings are where they are. I’m not playing him at the 3 on my team.

And Simmons is the reason why you guys can't get past the second round lol. No one who wants their team to succeed is investing much in him.

[Lalouie]

what in god's name does sac expect in return who would markely improve the team????:banghead:
this is a clear example of why sac should be sold and move

a bad team wanting to move it's best players because it's best players are not moving the needle, to get other players who will be equally inept at moving the needle

[BoogieTime]

Morey is smoking something (he has been the entire time). Hali isnt moving for Simmons, and he would be lucky to get Fox if Fox continues his current play

[the_process]

He starts at the three.

That could have something to do with why the Kings are where they are. I’m not playing him at the 3 on my team.

And Simmons is the reason why you guys can't get past the second round lol. No one who wants their team to succeed is investing much in him.

Inexplicably rent free. Divisional jealousy or something? ***** envy maybe?

[realball]

That could have something to do with why the Kings are where they are. I’m not playing him at the 3 on my team.

And Simmons is the reason why you guys can't get past the second round lol. No one who wants their team to succeed is investing much in him.

Inexplicably rent free. Divisional jealousy or something? ***** envy maybe?

Yeah I'm soooo envious, I wish my team had role-player being paid the max and sitting out the season.

[Got Nuffin]

I would rather Haliburton on my team than Simmons any day. Simmons seems happier not even playing tbh, last I heard he was having a wonderful romance with tv presenter Maya James. Good on him enjoying the good life. f basketball lol

Hoping the Raptors get in on the Haliburton sweep stakes

On the Philly side, Simmons to the underperforming Hawks for Gallinari / Reddish / Huerter makes a lot of sense.

[the_process]

I would rather Haliburton on my team than Simmons any day. Simmons seems happier not even playing tbh, last I heard he was having a wonderful romance with tv presenter Maya James. Good on him enjoying the good life. f basketball lol

Hoping the Raptors get in on the Haliburton sweep stakes

On the Philly side, Simmons to the underperforming Hawks for Gallinari / Reddish / Huerter makes a lot of sense.

No it doesn’t.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I would think the Kings would move Fox before Haliburton, especially if you're potentially getting Simmons back. From a roster construction standpoint Mitchell, Haliburton and Simmons is a solid core, because both the guards can play on or off the ball and getting rid of Fox opens the door to starting Mitchell to ball hawk opposing guards, combine that with Simmons on defense and you get something cooking. Long term they'd have to dump Holmes and get a stretch 5, but I can see Simmons, Haliburton and Mitchell working better than Fox + Simmons.

[thamadkant]

Fox and Simmons are not ideal together.. one of them should be paired with an off the ball player who can shoot.

Kings should trade Fox for Beal.
Then trade Haliburton, Barnes, Picks for Simmons.

Beal, Simmons.... as SG, SF combo.... Kings then sign a spot shooter for PG.