psman2 wrote:VCfor3 wrote:BOS/MEM/ORL
BOS in: Tyus
MEM in: Lopez, Pick swap with Boston (Lottery protected, if the swap doesn't convey we get a complicated 2023 Hou 2nd)
ORL in: Juan, cash, rights to swap 2nd rounders of some sort
I know Tyus highly likely outprices us this offseason and we lose him for nothing (or maybe get a 2nd in a S&T), but I still would be hesitant to move him unless we are blown away with an offer. I don't know if the above offer gets it done for me but thought I'd try to be creative. Watching teams that lack a quality backup PG struggle, I think I'd rather keep one of the best backup PGs for the season to keep pushing for home court this playoffs. If we could win a playoff series I think the experience would be invaluable for the rest of our young guys. Bane can cover backup PG enough that we probably still hold onto the 4th seed, but I think having Tyus helps our chances in the playoffs. Then this offseason we draft a PG to have as a cheap backup (Kennedy Chandler or TyTy Washington perhaps?).
Anderson has been really good too but I feel like we can replace his production much easier than Tyus so I'm more open to moving him. I don't think we can get a 1st but who knows. Maybe Chicago does DJJ+Por 1st for Anderson+two 2nds? Sac does Bagley+two 2nds? I'm fine if we sit pat because there isn't an offer that excites us.
I doubt Boston would do a 1st swap for Jones, that swap could be 5-10 spots in the 1st which is more than I think Jones could pull.
Here is my favorite trade with Orlando.
Tor in: Adams, future 2nd from Memphis
MEM in: Garry Harris, Bamba
ORL in: Dragic (buyout) and the better of the Mem/Utah pick
Harris has rebounded somewhat this year and would open up an Anderson trade. Bamba I think can really expand his game playing for some competent teammates, he has never played with a even average PG before. JJJ/Bamba can stretch the floor and protect the rim. 5 out all day and they could share the floor. Hopefully since there isn't a lot of cap space available this offseason we can retain him on a discount. I like 4/40 for him.
This opens up a big chuck of cap space and I think we put a big contract on Cam Johnson and steal him away from Phoenix since they will be a a big salary crunch with Ayton wanting the max and already paying Bridges. Cam is shooting lights out and has a well rounded game. There is not a lot of good FA targets this year, I am really zeroing on Cam as a guy we could land.
Harris has played well this year but barring an injury I'm not sure how much run he'd get for us seeing as our SG rotation is pretty full, not that it matters much since he is an expiring and Bamba is the prize. I think Bamba will want a deal similar to WCJ so it may be close to 4/50 to retain him. I do like the idea of Cam as a target though.
If we did move Tyus then maybe we try to get Dragic ourselves and send Culver to Orlando as the salary filler while keeping the rest of the trade intact. We also really need a consolidation trade especially if we do add Cam in the offseason. JJJ, Clarke, Cam, Tillie at PF assuming we move Anderson. Bamba, Tillman, Santi?, and some JJJ at center.
As for the Boston deal I was kind of struggling with the compensation component. I think to get Tyus it will take an overpay but it has to be a reasonable overpay since Tyus may just be a rental for Boston. Boston is too bad for a 1st to make sense so was trying to see if a swap might be better. They need to right the ship and Tyus would help with a lot of what they need. Boston also is super low on 2nds. I think they have like 3-4 total available to be traded but maybe two 2nds would work for us depending on the 2nds? The pick swap protections can be increased a bit as well to help. I tried to leave it mildly vague on purpose, but would prefer the pick swap to be on our pick next season seeing as we already have so much draft capital in this draft. It also lets Boston have a clean slate at sending a lower pick to us and on their end maybe they feel Memphis will be swapping them a better pick next year as the West gets healthier. I'd be willing to go up some on the protections anyway. Top 16-18 protected? I feel like moving up 5 spots in the draft is very reasonable for Tyus, but moving up 10 not so much.