Time to discuss josh Green

[Bob8]

I need to say a few things about my boy Josh Green. Watching the past few games and I am more and more impressed with his understanding of the game(especially on offense). There are so many little things that he shows/makes, that have the potential to make a huge difference. And what once were only flashes that he has shown, are now stretches, and that is huge IMO.

For example this play. He immediately recognizes that KP is left alone for a second and about to have a missmatch in the post and gives a sign to Bullock. Great at recognizing advantages and communicating. This play was at around 6:10 in the 2nd quater vs SAC


Now we all know that he is a good cutter, but let me tell you something else. He is great! Once again great at realizing that his defender has lost him, he cuts and then our favourite former Mav HB has no other choice than to help. Which leaves DFS wiiiiiiiideeeeeeee open for the 3.



As for the other aspects of his game... First of all let me say, that he basically had no offseason to work on his game. The first year was the COVID lockdown, a really uniqe situation, and the last offseason, he was with the Aussies at the Olympics. There are no major tournaments this year, so he should have time to work on his game this following offseason. I think there are 2 major aspects of his game that need to be polished:
1st one is ballhandling - He gets sloppywith the ball and attacking the basketball. A better handle would work miracles for him. It would be easier forhim toattack the basket, to pass, basically everything would be easier.
2nd one is shooting and I think that I don't need to explain that part. He was able to shoot in college, he can hit his freethrow, he just needs to work on it,becouse he has shown in the previous years that he can shoot.

Oh and something for my friend Bob... He is still half a year younger than Bey when he played his first NBA game...

Glas is younger than Green and can shoot already.

Or what about Klavzar born in 2004? How many offseasons he had to become good shooter?

[Teffer10]

Green should be a nice DFS replacement if somr team offers DFS $18M or something similar to Jerami Grant money.

Yeah, my thoughts too.
Josh seems to have the upside and attitude to get to DFS's level if he gets the opportunity.
Mavs should consider moving Brunson and DFS before the deadline because there is a good chance the Mavs will overpay for those two or let them walk. Green could become a decent and cheap replacement for DFS in either scenario.

[Bob8]

I have to admit he looked great yesterday.

[dirkdiggler4177]

The dude got talent, but he can't shoot the 3 pointers and for that reason, he won't get playing time. He got court vision, timing, athletic ability, but you can't play him because he is not good enough to handle the ball and he won't give you any spacing. If he develops a decent 3 point shot he can definitely become a starter and a replacement for DFS, but it does not look very good

[arkuo]

I'm skeptical of Josh Green's numbers now the same way I'm skeptical of Jalen Brunson's numbers due to a lot of players being out to covid. But one of those guys is waiting for a big contract this summer. The other is signed on the minimum. Yeah, I'd keep Green now and find a trading partner for Brunson before the deadline before you're hostaged into paying him big bucks.

[Mavrelous]

I'm skeptical of Josh Green's numbers now the same way I'm skeptical of Jalen Brunson's numbers due to a lot of players being out to covid. But one of those guys is waiting for a big contract this summer. The other is signed on the minimum. Yeah, I'd keep Green now and find a trading partner for Brunson before the deadline before you're hostaged into paying him big bucks.

But Mavs have full wing rotation now, Bullock played 18, SBrown 10, and THJ only 28 which below his average, he actually took their minutes.

[Archx]

I'm skeptical of Josh Green's numbers now the same way I'm skeptical of Jalen Brunson's numbers due to a lot of players being out to covid. But one of those guys is waiting for a big contract this summer. The other is signed on the minimum. Yeah, I'd keep Green now and find a trading partner for Brunson before the deadline before you're hostaged into paying him big bucks.

Brunson is the most consistent guy on this team. He's also well aware of what his role is, takes the matters in his own hand when he has to but also lets Luka be Luka when it's his time. Mavs have to find a way to re-sign him. If you have to create space and money i would rather trade THJ since Bullock started showing flashes of his old self.

[Mavrelous]

I hope Cuban doesn't start penny pinching now, it's 2 years of tax, and then KP deal comes off the books, he should be able to handle it easily with the low budget he's been operating under for years.

[arkuo]

I'm skeptical of Josh Green's numbers now the same way I'm skeptical of Jalen Brunson's numbers due to a lot of players being out to covid. But one of those guys is waiting for a big contract this summer. The other is signed on the minimum. Yeah, I'd keep Green now and find a trading partner for Brunson before the deadline before you're hostaged into paying him big bucks.

Brunson is the most consistent guy on this team. He's also well aware of what his role is, takes the matters in his own hand when he has to but also lets Luka be Luka when it's his time. Mavs have to find a way to re-sign him. If you have to create space and money i would rather trade THJ since Bullock started showing flashes of his old self.

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

[41Dirk41]

It seems that our guys have some trade value so make trades... Let's how much capable is Nico.

[Archx]

I'm skeptical of Josh Green's numbers now the same way I'm skeptical of Jalen Brunson's numbers due to a lot of players being out to covid. But one of those guys is waiting for a big contract this summer. The other is signed on the minimum. Yeah, I'd keep Green now and find a trading partner for Brunson before the deadline before you're hostaged into paying him big bucks.

Brunson is the most consistent guy on this team. He's also well aware of what his role is, takes the matters in his own hand when he has to but also lets Luka be Luka when it's his time. Mavs have to find a way to re-sign him. If you have to create space and money i would rather trade THJ since Bullock started showing flashes of his old self.

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

[41Dirk41]

Brunson is the most consistent guy on this team. He's also well aware of what his role is, takes the matters in his own hand when he has to but also lets Luka be Luka when it's his time. Mavs have to find a way to re-sign him. If you have to create space and money i would rather trade THJ since Bullock started showing flashes of his old self.

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

Both

[Archx]

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

Both

Why? Brunson is everything we all screamed for before the season ... Who do you want to get for him, or even a better question, who CAN you get for him?

Brunson WITHOUT Doncic this season 20/4/8 and only 2TO per game on 49% FG.

Now find me players around the league that can average these numbers and win games. And then have no issues taking a sit back to Luka and let him and KP do the work. If you trade him and don't get almost an all star back in return, you'll just have another Seth Curry situation.

Brunson would probably start on 26 or 27 teams right now including championship contenders.

[gottamakeit]

Brunson is the most consistent guy on this team. He's also well aware of what his role is, takes the matters in his own hand when he has to but also lets Luka be Luka when it's his time. Mavs have to find a way to re-sign him. If you have to create space and money i would rather trade THJ since Bullock started showing flashes of his old self.

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

100% trade Timmy. in fact, we should try to move him by the deadline. His decline + his contract will be the death of us.

[41Dirk41]

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

Both

Why? Brunson is everything we all screamed for before the season ... Who do you want to get for him, or even a better question, who CAN you get for him?

Brunson WITHOUT Doncic this season 20/4/8 and only 2TO per game on 49% FG.

Now find me players around the league that can average these numbers and win games. And then have no issues taking a sit back to Luka and let him and KP do the work. If you trade him and don't get almost an all star back in return, you'll just have another Seth Curry situation.

Brunson would probably start on 26 or 27 teams right now including championship contenders.

I hope the other GMs around the league thinking the same things so we can trade him very high.
Obviously i never trade him for a Seth Curry guy then it's better keep him.
I try to make a package with him+picks+players for a second star like Beal.

I like him but i still have doubts about its real efficiency in the PO.

[arkuo]

Brunson is the most consistent guy on this team. He's also well aware of what his role is, takes the matters in his own hand when he has to but also lets Luka be Luka when it's his time. Mavs have to find a way to re-sign him. If you have to create space and money i would rather trade THJ since Bullock started showing flashes of his old self.

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

Yeah I dont think a $80M (4 years at $20M per) contract for Jalen Brunson is a smart thing to do. I think it's a bit too much.

Most people forget that Brunson is already 25. Played all 4 years in college. His ceiling is pretty much that. Now if he were 18 years old and all, maybe you consider paying him a good amount for potential. But at this point, I dont know man. Maybe a team like Detroit who needs a PG can take him. Brunson + DFS + Powell for Jerami Grant. Something like that.

[41Dirk41]

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

100% trade Timmy. in fact, we should try to move him by the deadline. His decline + his contract will be the death of us.

The Timmy's contract is his the better quality

[gottamakeit]

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

100% trade Timmy. in fact, we should try to move him by the deadline. His decline + his contract will be the death of us.

The Timmy's contract is his the better quality

I posted this elsewhere, i don't think we overpaid him considering his recent post-season.
I just think this contract is going to age poorly for us. I think we move him proactively rather than wait for him to show other teams that he's declined. He's basically our Bertans, we should trade him before other teams realize this.

[Mavrelous]

Nico knew what he's getting into with Timmy, that's why he signed him to declining deal, it's 74/4 now, next year it's 53/3 (Will Barton money), the year after it's 33/2, which isn't much.
Even when Timmy isn't hitting his shots he still brings a lot to this team in veteran leadership.
Brunson stock will depend on what he does in the PO, and that will depend on the matchup.

[Archx]

No question about his consistency. The question is how much you need to cough up to keep him. If some team like Charlotte throws a $20M per year contract at him, that is an overpay you don't want to match. You'll have Most of the cap tied to Luka, KP, THJ and Brunson. That is no way a finals contender.

Is it really an overpay? Between his 20M and THJ's, who would you rather trade away?

Yeah I dont think a $80M (4 years at $20M per) contract for Jalen Brunson is a smart thing to do. I think it's a bit too much.

Most people forget that Brunson is already 25. Played all 4 years in college. His ceiling is pretty much that. Now if he were 18 years old and all, maybe you consider paying him a good amount for potential. But at this point, I dont know man. Maybe a team like Detroit who needs a PG can take him. Brunson + DFS + Powell for Jerami Grant. Something like that.

I understand your point of view but 25 is still not old in my opinion. It's not even a basketball prime yet. I would 100% roll the dice with Brunson this season since he has shown significant improvement. He has only 2% higher USG% but 9% higher AST% from last season. It's like he heard us when we complained that he plays too selfish. Just his overall game and presence on the floor inspires confidence.

I try to make a package with him+picks+players for a second star like Beal.

I like him but i still have doubts about its real efficiency in the PO.

Yeah, that's what i mean. If i can get a player like Beal for him in somekind of a package, 100% do it. But like i said earlier, i'm willing to roll the dice and see what Brunson can do this year in the playoffs.