Trades and Transactions, 2022 Edition

Chanel Bomber · Post #801 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:14 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Would like to see what Randle can do with Turner

I don't want Randle as my starting 4, and I don't think Obi's starting 4 material right now, but there's no denying that both could benefit from playing with a stretch 5 like Turner.

I love Mitch, but he doesn't fit with Randle and Obi. Or vice versa. Perspective.

F N 11 · Post #802 » by **F N 11** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:17 pm

Time for disappointment season. We will end up with some former Thibs player.

DaGawd · Post #803 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:30 pm

F N 11 wrote:Time for disappointment season. We will end up with some former Thibs player.

KAT

Appleshampoo · Post #804 » by **Appleshampoo** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:32 pm

What point guards are available?

Knicksfan1992 · Post #805 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:38 pm

I wonder if the Knicks interest in Grant has to either do with plans to send Mitch out or use him in a 3 way deal to get a bigger fish.

Detroit is one of the rare teams who probably won't mind taking on Fournier's long term money because most of their talent is on rookie or cheap deals anyway and since they are one of the worst shooting teams in the league they can use a real shooter next to Cade while they tank. They also could rehab Fournier's value like they did with Grant to try and get an asset from a contender down the line from him like they are doing with Grant- right now.

Knicks could give Detroit the assets they likely want (a 1st or 2 w/ Mitch + Fournier's money) and then re-route Grant somewhere like Portland for CJ or Philly for Simmons. I think that's mainly where the interest in Grant lies. But also while he isn't a great fit with our current roster we have a desperate need for wing sized guys who can actually defend. He provides that at the very least and he's better money than Fournier is. So out of pure value I think it would be a good deal to get. Guys in his archetype always fetch something decent on the market.

DOT · Post #806 » by **DOT** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:41 pm

I can see it now:

Burks
RJ
Grant
Randle
Mitch (we fail to get Turner)

Finish the season with a 38-44 record

thebuzzardman · Post #807 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:06 pm

F N 11 wrote:Time for disappointment season. We will end up with some former Thibs player.

Gorgui Dieng, Anthony Tolliver and Tony Snell incoming
Mitch, Obi and Grimes outgoing

thebuzzardman · Post #808 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:08 pm

K-DOT wrote:I can see it now:

Burks
RJ
Grant
Randle
Mitch (we fail to get Turner)

Finish the season with a 38-44 record

Watch on YouTube

thebuzzardman · Post #809 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:11 pm

K-DOT wrote:I can see it now:

Burks
RJ
Grant
Randle
Mitch (we fail to get Turner)

Finish the season with a 38-44 record

Watch on YouTube

Spoiler:

F N 11 · Post #810 » by **F N 11** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:28 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
F N 11 wrote:Time for disappointment season. We will end up with some former Thibs player.

Gorgui Dieng, Anthony Tolliver and Tony Snell incoming
Mitch, Obi and Grimes outgoing

Richard4444 · Post #811 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:29 pm

Appleshampoo wrote:What point guards are available?

Fox - It is the best name available (I dont believe Haliburton is). But it would be expensive and not a good fit with Randle (both are not great shooters and Fox plays fast while Randle plays slow).
Collin Sexton (for next season only due to his injury)
Jalen Brunson (he will be UFA next season, he is playing really well lately although too short for my taste)
Dennis Schroder (I hope not. He is not a great fit although he can be a cheap rental)
Derrick White (it will be great to have 2 Derricks as PGs)
Ben Simmons (I hope not, expensive and terrible fit)
Dragic (he is not so old...and should not be expensive)
Afernee Simmons (he will be RFA next season and it will be difficult to the Portland afford him due to luxury taxes, but he is not a floor general in any way)
Tyus Jones (he will be UFA next season, he is playing well although too short for my taste)
Kevin Porter Jr (to bring some fire to the locker room literaly)
Russel Westbrook (please god, no).
John Wall (we can dump some contracts...)
Caris LeVert (he cant shoot to be a SG...He can be a reasonable playmaker and a good slasher)
Eric Bledsoe (we could dump some contracts...)
Thomas Satoransky (he can be cheap because he is awful lately).
Markelle Fultz (Orlando has a logjam in PGs and Fultz is the odd man out. He can be cheap and he can learn how to shoot eventually. That strategy does not work out with Mudlay, DSJr, Frank and Payton. But once there is always a first time, right?)
Eldrid Payton - He is not playing in Phoenix. We know Thibs and Randle miss him very much...

TrueWarrior · Post #812 » by **TrueWarrior** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:33 pm

Can someone explain why Turner and Sabonis dont work together?

Turner is a 5 you’d think works with most everyone since he can shoot and protect the paint. That’s exactly the type of 5 Sabonis needs next to him too. So whats the deal? We think its going to be different with Randle?

Dont see what the Pacers would even want from us in a trade. Id imagine a 3rd team would need to be involved. Mitch wouldnt make sense for them at all if Turner doesnt. Obi wouldnt fit unless they move Sabonis too. Maybe RJ, but Turner is more valuable than him.

Just dont see how it happens unless we give em a bunch of picks or whatever.

bleedblue3303 · Post #813 » by **bleedblue3303** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:41 pm

Evan and Mitch to Toronto
for
Scottie Barnes and Chris Boucher

Whose in?

ophdog · Post #814 » by **ophdog** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:50 pm

bleedblue3303 wrote:Evan and Mitch to Toronto
for
Scottie Barnes and Chris Boucher

Whose in?

haha this would be an easy yes for Knicks raptors would laugh at you

bleedblue3303 · Post #815 » by **bleedblue3303** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:54 pm

Julius Randle for John Collins
whose in?

Nazrmohamed · Post #816 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:13 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:I wonder if the Knicks interest in Grant has to either do with plans to send Mitch out or use him in a 3 way deal to get a bigger fish.

Detroit is one of the rare teams who probably won't mind taking on Fournier's long term money because most of their talent is on rookie or cheap deals anyway and since they are one of the worst shooting teams in the league they can use a real shooter next to Cade while they tank. They also could rehab Fournier's value like they did with Grant to try and get an asset from a contender down the line from him like they are doing with Grant- right now.

Knicks could give Detroit the assets they likely want (a 1st or 2 w/ Mitch + Fournier's money) and then re-route Grant somewhere like Portland for CJ or Philly for Simmons. I think that's mainly where the interest in Grant lies. But also while he isn't a great fit with our current roster we have a desperate need for wing sized guys who can actually defend. He provides that at the very least and he's better money than Fournier is. So out of pure value I think it would be a good deal to get. Guys in his archetype always fetch something decent on the market.

Why would you rerout him and why don't you think he fits?

Monk1718 · Post #817 » by **Monk1718** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:13 pm

Kevin Knox for Michael Jordan

Jalen Bluntson · Post #818 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:01 am

31 days to the deadline. Feel the excitement building yet? Neither do I.

Richard4444 · Post #819 » by **Richard4444** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:23 am

bleedblue3303 wrote:Evan and Mitch to Toronto
for
Scottie Barnes and Chris Boucher

Whose in?

What about:
Randle for Curry
RJ for Haliburton
Knox for Doncic
Obi for Mobley
Burks + Noel + Taj for Embiid

br7knicks · Post #820 » by **br7knicks** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:34 am

Richard4444 wrote:
Appleshampoo wrote:What point guards are available?

Fox - It is the best name available (I dont believe Haliburton is). But it would be expensive and not a good fit with Randle (both are not great shooters and Fox plays fast while Randle plays slow).
Colleen Sexton (for next season only due to his injury)
Jalen Brunson (he will be UFA next season, he is playing really well lately although too short for my taste)
Dennis Schroder (I hope not. He is not a great fit although he can be a cheap rental)
Derrick White (it will be great to have 2 Derricks as PGs)
Ben Simmons (I hope not, expensive and terrible fit)
Dragic (he is not so old...and should not be expensive)
Afernee Simmons (he will be RFA next season and it will be difficult to the Portland afford him due to luxury taxes, but he is not a floor general in any way)
Tyus Jones (he will be UFA next season, he is playing well although too short for my taste)
Kevin Porter Jr (to bring some fire to the locker room literaly)
Russel Westbrook (please god, no).
John Wall (we can dump some contracts...)
Caris LeVert (he cant shoot to be a SG...He can be a reasonable playmaker and a good slasher)
Eric Bledsoe (we could dump some contracts...)
Thomas Satoransky (he can be cheap because he is awful lately).
Markelle Fultz (Orlando has a logjam in PGs and Fultz is the odd man out. He can be cheap and he can learn how to shoot eventually. That strategy does not work out with Mudlay, DSJr, Frank and Payton. But once there is always a first time, right?)
Eldrid Payton - He is not playing in Phoenix. We know Thibs and Randle miss him very much...

collin's slightly whiter aunt is still available as knicks' starting PG