Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[raleigh]

[size=124]Atlanta Hawks Receive: Jerami Grant

Detroit Pistons Receive: Danilo Gallinari, Cam Reddish, 2022 first-round pick (top-20 protection in 2022; top-18 protection in 2023; top-16 protection in 2024; turns into two seconds thereafter)

That'd be a great deal for the Hawks.

The protection would have to be lower and perhaps could be pushed to a 2023 first-round pick?

[Years90Suns]

And/or Haliburton ? The guy is the first SAC player with a series of 20pts/10ast in recent games, and they ready to trade him... We don't know what they would like though.

I was dreaming of the opportunity to get both Okongwu and Haliburton in their draft, it would be great to get him, but for who

On a side note, and after some many games they can't play with both Capela and Okongwu, I would have sign Cousins now, especially after the way he played with MIL. Sometimes, our biggest problem is not this bad defense but offense in 4th... another offensive weapon can't be a bad thing

Cousins would solve some of our problems on offense and outside shooting if we get someone like Simmons. The problem is not pairing Simmons with Capela. The problem is not having anyone who can shoot on the bench.

A crazy thing to do would be to play Collins at the 4 all the time, with Cousins or Dieng, Okongwu and Simmons and Gallinari playing inside (4s and 5s). That would give us a lot of versatility, but we would be on the verge of just being an average team with no different tools.

To get that team we would need to send Capela to a third team to trade for Simmons. Or to use Reddish and Okongwu for Simmons.

Young
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Simmons
Collins
--------------------
Richardson
Huerter
Gallinari
Okongwu
Cousins

[D21]

Right, I was just thinking about signing Cousins in case Capela or Okongwu would miss some games again, but it also actually adds the option of having a C that can shoot the 3 and open a bit more the possibility to add Simmons.

Thinking about it now, I don't know if Schlenk contacted Cousins and he preferred DEN, but if Schlenk did not tried to sign him, it would show for me that Simmons is less a priority than what the rumors are saying.

[Years90Suns]

And/or Haliburton ? The guy is the first SAC player with a series of 20pts/10ast in recent games, and they ready to trade him... We don't know what they would like though.

I was dreaming of the opportunity to get both Okongwu and Haliburton in their draft, it would be great to get him, but for who

On a side note, and after some many games they can't play with both Capela and Okongwu, I would have sign Cousins now, especially after the way he played with MIL. Sometimes, our biggest problem is not this bad defense but offense in 4th... another offensive weapon can't be a bad thing

Cousins would solve some of our problems on offense and outside shooting if we get someone like Simmons. The problem is not pairing Simmons with Capela. The problem is not having anyone who can shoot on the bench.

A crazy thing to do would be to play Collins at the 4 all the time, with Cousins or Dieng, Okongwu and Simmons and Gallinari playing inside (4s and 5s). That would give us a lot of versatility, but we would be on the verge of just being an average team with no different tools.

To get that team we would need to send Capela to a third team to trade for Simmons. Or to use Reddish and Okongwu for Simmons.

Young
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Simmons
Collins
--------------------
Richardson
Huerter
Gallinari
Okongwu
Cousins

Again I would say that the Warriors, the Cavs and the Spurs play 2 or even 3 guys who cannot shoot (at all) and play very good to decent basketball
Even the Bucks play Giannis and Tucker, who are terrible shooters, together. Then their PG is not so good a shooter.

Teams win because they are unique at what they do. If the NBA is shooting like crazy, maybe the way to beat them is getting more lay-ups and more rebounds, more defense and more team game.

[jayu70]

And/or Haliburton ? The guy is the first SAC player with a series of 20pts/10ast in recent games, and they ready to trade him... We don't know what they would like though.

I was dreaming of the opportunity to get both Okongwu and Haliburton in their draft, it would be great to get him, but for who

On a side note, and after some many games they can't play with both Capela and Okongwu, I would have sign Cousins now, especially after the way he played with MIL. Sometimes, our biggest problem is not this bad defense but offense in 4th... another offensive weapon can't be a bad thing

Cousins would solve some of our problems on offense and outside shooting if we get someone like Simmons. The problem is not pairing Simmons with Capela. The problem is not having anyone who can shoot on the bench.

A crazy thing to do would be to play Collins at the 4 all the time, with Cousins or Dieng, Okongwu and Simmons and Gallinari playing inside (4s and 5s). That would give us a lot of versatility, but we would be on the verge of just being an average team with no different tools.

To get that team we would need to send Capela to a third team to trade for Simmons. Or to use Reddish and Okongwu for Simmons.

Young
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Simmons
Collins
--------------------
Richardson
Huerter
Gallinari
Okongwu
Cousins

Again I would say that the Warriors, the Cavs and the Spurs play 2 or even 3 guys who cannot shoot (at all) and play very good to decent basketball
Even the Bucks play Giannis and Tucker, who are terrible shooters, together. Then their PG is not so good a shooter.

Teams win because they are unique at what they do. If the NBA is shooting like crazy, maybe the way to beat them is getting more lay-ups and more rebounds, more defense and more team game.

Tucker can actually spread the floor and hit timely 3s, Clint cannot. Giannis isn't afraid to shoot and dive the ball - Ben is.

[D21]

Again I would say that the Warriors, the Cavs and the Spurs play 2 or even 3 guys who cannot shoot (at all) and play very good to decent basketball
Even the Bucks play Giannis and Tucker, who are terrible shooters, together. Then their PG is not so good a shooter.

Teams win because they are unique at what they do. If the NBA is shooting like crazy, maybe the way to beat them is getting more lay-ups and more rebounds, more defense and more team game.

Tucker can actually spread the floor and hit timely 3s, Clint cannot. Giannis isn't afraid to shoot and dive the ball - Ben is.

We wanted to say Portis ?
Because Tucker is now with MIA

[Years90Suns]

Again I would say that the Warriors, the Cavs and the Spurs play 2 or even 3 guys who cannot shoot (at all) and play very good to decent basketball
Even the Bucks play Giannis and Tucker, who are terrible shooters, together. Then their PG is not so good a shooter.

Teams win because they are unique at what they do. If the NBA is shooting like crazy, maybe the way to beat them is getting more lay-ups and more rebounds, more defense and more team game.

Tucker can actually spread the floor and hit timely 3s, Clint cannot. Giannis isn't afraid to shoot and dive the ball - Ben is.

We wanted to say Portis ?
Because Tucker is now with MIA

You are right. My fault. I wrote it and remembered he was not in MIL. But was too late to look for the information and change it.

The Sixers are trying to include Harris in any trade with Simmons, which will make things more difficult for them. Harris would be interesting if we did not have Hunter.

What I do not understand is how the Blazers have not pulled the trigger and have made a change using CJ or Lillard to get Simmons. They now have Simmons, McLemore and Powell, with CJ and Lillard. They clearly could use one or two players and a pick to get Simmons, as they are already 6-7 years trying to get a step farther with Lillard and CJ and it is working backwards...

Lillard+Nance+pick = Simmons

Simmons
CJ
Powell
Covington
Nurkic
--------------------
Simmons
McLemore
Snell
Little
Zeller

[jayu70]

Tucker can actually spread the floor and hit timely 3s, Clint cannot. Giannis isn't afraid to shoot and dive the ball - Ben is.

We wanted to say Portis ?
Because Tucker is now with MIA

You are right. My fault. I wrote it and remembered he was not in MIL. But was too late to look for the information and change it.

The Sixers are trying to include Harris in any trade with Simmons, which will make things more difficult for them. Harris would be interesting if we did not have Hunter.

What I do not understand is how the Blazers have not pulled the trigger and have made a change using CJ or Lillard to get Simmons. They now have Simmons, McLemore and Powell, with CJ and Lillard. They clearly could use one or two players and a pick to get Simmons, as they are already 6-7 years trying to get a step farther with Lillard and CJ and it is working backwards...

Lillard+Nance+pick = Simmons

Simmons
CJ
Powell
Covington
Nurkic
--------------------
Simmons
McLemore
Snell
Little
Zeller

Harri's contract is an anchor.
Philly wants Dame, they are holding out...I would surmise Portland has no interest in trading Dame, let alone and for Simmons and adding a pick. Lillard+Nance+pick = Simmons??? Wow I think you have the values reversed - Dame is valued higher than Simmons
I'm sure Portland would do Simmons for CJ but Philly won't.

[Years90Suns]

I would like to reach a roster like this one:

YOUNG
HUERTER
HUNTER
SIMMONS
SABONIS
---------------------
xxx
Bogdanovic

Gallinari or Okongwu
Dieng


Dieng or Gallinari or Okongwu, Collins, Capela, Reddish and two picks from the Hawks.
Sabonis from the Pacers.
Simmons and Harris from the Sixers.
A fourth team with a player appealing to the Pacers to play PF and willing to take Capela.

We could get Sabonis and Simmons
Pacers receive Harris, Gallinari or Okongwu and a pick.
Sixers receive Collins and Reddish, plus a pick.
X team receives Capela.

[Godaddycurse]

I would like to reach a roster like this one:

YOUNG
HUERTER
HUNTER
SIMMONS
SABONIS
---------------------
xxx
Bogdanovic

Gallinari or Okongwu
Dieng


Dieng or Gallinari or Okongwu, Collins, Capela, Reddish and two picks from the Hawks.
Sabonis from the Pacers.
Simmons and Harris from the Sixers.
A fourth team with a player appealing to the Pacers to play PF and willing to take Capela.

We could get Sabonis and Simmons
Pacers receive Harris, Gallinari or Okongwu and a pick.
Sixers receive Collins and Reddish, plus a pick.
X team receives Capela.

Capela can't be traded. Pacers can't afford harris.

[Years90Suns]

A different option would be to get Turner and Grant as defensive players, as well as Simmons.

Young
Huerter
Hunter
Simmons
Turner
-----------------
xxx
Bogdanovic
Grant
Gallinari
Dieng

gone: Reddish, Collins, Capela and picks. Bogdanovic could be also available or Huerter.

[saloonyk8]

I can't believe I spent time to make these numbers work:

Hawks get Derrick White, McDermott, & B Simmons

Spurs get Cam reddish & Tobias Harris and 2 FRP unprotected

Sixers get Bogdanovic, Gallinari, Delon, and Thad Young

Sixers save money and get shooters in Bogi and Gallo, get out from Tobias contract. They may want Hunter instead of Delon.

Bottom line I got the numbers to work lol

[Jamaaliver]

A different option would be to get Turner and Grant as defensive players, as well as Simmons.

Young
Huerter
Hunter
Simmons
Turner
-----------------

That's a fairly solid starting 5. We'd struggle against top rebounding teams, but we'd be better defensively and still maintain a top-10 offense.

NATE would need to emphasize more fast break opportunities with both Simmons and Trae on the court.

[raleigh]

The Hawks <4 weeks to show some signs of life. Should they not, I think there are two potential steps:

1) Trade Gallo to an aspiring playoff team to get his $5M guarantee off of next year's books. Some suggested options:

a) For G. Dragic (TOR), who is waived to free up a roster spot.
b) For Prince/Okogie (MIN), to bring in Josh to see if he can function at all next to Trae.

2) Dump Bogdanovic for a pick or less pricey rotation player on a team with tax room to add salary. If there's one redundancy left on the roster, it's the Bogi/Huerter one. I'm not convinced TS wants to go this direction, so I've only dug up one example each of these.

a) For Protected 1st/Temple/Satoransky (NOP)
b) For Hart/Satoransky (NOP)

Should they manage to string together some wins, I think they may try to add some small salary back via trading one of Dieng or Knox.

[raleigh]

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Could use another one of these guys...

[jayu70]

The only thing that probably gets the Hawks to consider moving Collins is talking about Jaylen Brown in a deal (with Collins and more heading back to Boston) and league sources indicate Boston isn’t willing to go there with the All-Star this year. There could be some smaller deals that make sense with Atlanta and Boston but I don’t see Collins involved in any of them.

 

– via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers

[tbhawksfan1]

The only thing that probably gets the Hawks to consider moving Collins is talking about Jaylen Brown in a deal (with Collins and more heading back to Boston) and league sources indicate Boston isn’t willing to go there with the All-Star this year. There could be some smaller deals that make sense with Atlanta and Boston but I don’t see Collins involved in any of them.

 

– via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers

I've been down on JC since he turned down Schlenk's initial offer. Guy can't function as a dominating big, can't defend in space and has almost no ability to create for himself or others, yet he's whinning that he needs to be the priority on the team

I would be happy to see him moved in a big deal. Heck the only thing that he does better than Simmons is hit open threes. Despite Simmons obvious shooting/FT woes at least he has some high level skills to contribute

[Andrew McCeltic]

The only thing that probably gets the Hawks to consider moving Collins is talking about Jaylen Brown in a deal (with Collins and more heading back to Boston) and league sources indicate Boston isn’t willing to go there with the All-Star this year. There could be some smaller deals that make sense with Atlanta and Boston but I don’t see Collins involved in any of them.

 

– via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers

I've been down on JC since he turned down Schlenk's initial offer. Guy can't function as a dominating big, can't defend in space and has almost no ability to create for himself or others, yet he's whinning that he needs to be the priority on the team

I would be happy to see him moved in a big deal. Heck the only thing that he does better than Simmons is hit open threes. Despite Simmons obvious shooting/FT woes at least he has some high level skills to contribute

What do you all think of Jaylen/Horford for Collins/Bogdanovic/Hunter? Don't know if it works for either team but the Hawks consolidate for an upgrade, Boston gets out of Horford's money and gambles on Bogi's health and Hunter's upside..

[tbhawksfan1]

The only thing that probably gets the Hawks to consider moving Collins is talking about Jaylen Brown in a deal (with Collins and more heading back to Boston) and league sources indicate Boston isn’t willing to go there with the All-Star this year. There could be some smaller deals that make sense with Atlanta and Boston but I don’t see Collins involved in any of them.

 

– via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers

I've been down on JC since he turned down Schlenk's initial offer. Guy can't function as a dominating big, can't defend in space and has almost no ability to create for himself or others, yet he's whinning that he needs to be the priority on the team

I would be happy to see him moved in a big deal. Heck the only thing that he does better than Simmons is hit open threes. Despite Simmons obvious shooting/FT woes at least he has some high level skills to contribute

What do you all think of Jaylen/Horford for Collins/Bogdanovic/Hunter? Don't know if it works for either team but the Hawks consolidate for an upgrade, Boston gets out of Horford's money and gambles on Bogi's health and Hunter's upside..

No thanks. Horford is a huge neg and had a bad parting with the Hawks. Collins and Bogs seems like about enough to me. No Hunter

[raleigh]

What do you all think of Jaylen/Horford for Collins/Bogdanovic/Hunter?

That's probably fair. I'd love to hang on to Hunter but Brown is a definite upgrade.