Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

cl2117 · Post #861 » by **cl2117** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:14 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Could you do Smart/Horford for Gallo/Reddish/Delon Wright? Hawks (fans, at least) only want to trade Gallo/Cam for a major upgrade.

Think you could do Gallo/Bogi and/or Wright at a push. Reddish has too much value.

Larry_Russell · Post #862 » by **Larry_Russell** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:33 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Schroder for Jalen Smith

Then just have to find a home for Horford for, Ideally, a shooter.

Not to rain on your parade, But I really don't see any team wanting Schroder. Barring a packaged trade or a team losing a PG to injury. This Painful demoralizing season will have Schroder on it for the whole year..

Actually posted this Phoenix's board and they thought there was no way Celtics make that deal.

Its cause of the contract status of Smith. most his current team can offer is 4.7 million. HE is unrestricted, so good chance he leaves.

Larry_Russell · Post #863 » by **Larry_Russell** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:35 pm

ddb wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Well, if you want a realistic Smart deal: Smart, Timelord and Juancho for Porzingis and Jaylen Brunson. I would also want a 2023 first rounder for taking on the Zinger's really ugly contract, with that player option for $36M in 2023-24.

Yuck!

Zinger/Brunson for Smart/Timelord/Juancho? Call me crazy, but if I'm Boston I do that deal!

Doesnt work financially

Horford, Schroder for KP and Brunson is closer too valuewise, imo.

Larry_Russell · Post #864 » by **Larry_Russell** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:50 pm

Horford, Bruno and 2 seconds to Brooklyn
for
Harris, Sharpe and Carter

Brooklyn upgrades Center position BIG TIME

Boston upgrades shooting BIGTIME

Smart/Pritch/Carter/Schroder
Harris/Richardson/Nesmith
Brown/Romeo/
Tatum/Grant/Juancho
Timelord/Kanter/Carter

Move Schroder for a wing upgrade off bench

Andrew McCeltic · Post #865 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:58 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
ddb wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Yuck!

Zinger/Brunson for Smart/Timelord/Juancho? Call me crazy, but if I'm Boston I do that deal!

Doesnt work financially

Horford, Schroder for KP and Brunson is closer too valuewise, imo.

I don't know Porzingis' value at this point.. I wouldn't deal Rob for him (he's too injury prone, he doesn't rebound consistently, he doesn't have the defensive impact you expect with his talent level, size and length, and so far he's only able to score when he's the offensive focus), but Horford/Schroeder isn't enough, that's just a salary dump for Dallas.

GotDaSauce · Post #866 » by **GotDaSauce** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:00 pm

ddb wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Well, if you want a realistic Smart deal: Smart, Timelord and Juancho for Porzingis and Jaylen Brunson. I would also want a 2023 first rounder for taking on the Zinger's really ugly contract, with that player option for $36M in 2023-24.

Yuck!

Zinger/Brunson for Smart/Timelord/Juancho? Call me crazy, but if I'm Boston I do that deal!

Brunson is great but I think he is up for a new deal after this year. Zinger is just alright for me but if its him or get Beal in the offseason then I say no thank you to Dallas!

Btw.... Beal has joined the vaccinated gang gang so all aboard the Beal hype train again! :lol:

Curmudgeon · Post #867 » by **Curmudgeon** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:21 pm

Beal is an unattainable white whale at this point. Why would he want to join the Boston sh*tshow? Don't give me the BS about how close he is with Tatum. Beal will go where he has a chance to win.

Yes, Brunson is up for a new deal and Porzingis is a gimpy overpaid unicorn. But Smart, Timelord and other assets for those two is the only realistic deal I can see involving Smart that brings back a legitimate point guard, and Stevens can try to sell the Zinger as a third star.

As for Schroder, nobody wants him. The Cavs never even called when Rubio got hurt.

Bohemian · Post #868 » by **Bohemian** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:23 pm

bisme37 wrote:Shams:

* Celtics have indicated to rival teams that they want to build around Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. No interest to split them right now. Boston appears open for business around other players.

* Hawks are an emerging potential landing spot for Ben Simmons. Other suitors include the Kings, Trail Blazers, Timberwolves and Pacers.

* John Collins has grown increasingly frustrated over his role in Atlanta.

* Mavericks and Knicks are expressing interest in trading for Myles Turner.

* Cavaliers are among the teams interested in Caris LeVert.

* Knicks, Wizards, Blazers and Lakers are among the teams pursuing Pistons forward Jerami Grant.

* Teams are expressing interest in John Wall should he become free on the market. But with $91.7 million remaining on Wall’s contract through next season, a trade or buyout remains unlikely.

* Cavaliers continue to discuss improving their backcourt, with rival teams showing interest in a package around Ricky Rubio’s expiring deal and draft picks.

https://t.co/I6I9d6GzUi

Keith Smith wrote something else about the Celtics in the Shams article, but I haven´t seen it mentioned there. Maybe he made a mistake?

Read on Twitter

Andrew McCeltic · Post #869 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:01 pm

What the hell could the Simmons trades be? They've talked to Philly or they've talked to themselves? I can't see any path for them to get Ben in a multi-team deal unless it's like Dwight Howard to LA where the team getting the star gives up the least value and the other teams manage to sort out the imbalance with each other.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #870 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:03 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Horford, Bruno and 2 seconds to Brooklyn
for
Harris, Sharpe and Carter

Brooklyn upgrades Center position BIG TIME

Boston upgrades shooting BIGTIME

Smart/Pritch/Carter/Schroder
Harris/Richardson/Nesmith
Brown/Romeo/
Tatum/Grant/Juancho
Timelord/Kanter/Carter

Move Schroder for a wing upgrade off bench

I wondered about that - Brooklyn supposedly cooling on Harris, maybe being willing to take Al for a title run.. don't like putting Tatum back at the 4, but it helps us.

Fencer reregistered · Post #871 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:01 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Beal is an unattainable white whale at this point. Why would he want to join the Boston sh*tshow? Don't give me the BS about how close he is with Tatum. Beal will go where he has a chance to win.

Yes, Brunson is up for a new deal and Porzingis is a gimpy overpaid unicorn. But Smart, Timelord and other assets for those two is the only realistic deal I can see involving Smart that brings back a legitimate point guard, and Stevens can try to sell the Zinger as a third star.

As for Schroder, nobody wants him. The Cavs never even called when Rubio got hurt.

How do you know that?

Fencer reregistered · Post #872 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:03 pm

Bohemian wrote:
bisme37 wrote:Shams:

* Celtics have indicated to rival teams that they want to build around Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. No interest to split them right now. Boston appears open for business around other players.

* Hawks are an emerging potential landing spot for Ben Simmons. Other suitors include the Kings, Trail Blazers, Timberwolves and Pacers.

* John Collins has grown increasingly frustrated over his role in Atlanta.

* Mavericks and Knicks are expressing interest in trading for Myles Turner.

* Cavaliers are among the teams interested in Caris LeVert.

* Knicks, Wizards, Blazers and Lakers are among the teams pursuing Pistons forward Jerami Grant.

* Teams are expressing interest in John Wall should he become free on the market. But with $91.7 million remaining on Wall’s contract through next season, a trade or buyout remains unlikely.

* Cavaliers continue to discuss improving their backcourt, with rival teams showing interest in a package around Ricky Rubio’s expiring deal and draft picks.

https://t.co/I6I9d6GzUi

Keith Smith wrote something else about the Celtics in the Shams article, but I haven´t seen it mentioned there. Maybe he made a mistake?

Read on Twitter

The "Simmons but not for Brown" interest story is old. I'd guess late off-season/pre-season. More recently it came up again and Brad publicly said that he privately told Jaylen that Brown-for-Simmons was not under consideration.

Curmudgeon · Post #873 » by **Curmudgeon** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:04 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Beal is an unattainable white whale at this point. Why would he want to join the Boston sh*tshow? Don't give me the BS about how close he is with Tatum. Beal will go where he has a chance to win.

Yes, Brunson is up for a new deal and Porzingis is a gimpy overpaid unicorn. But Smart, Timelord and other assets for those two is the only realistic deal I can see involving Smart that brings back a legitimate point guard, and Stevens can try to sell the Zinger as a third star.

As for Schroder, nobody wants him. The Cavs never even called when Rubio got hurt.

How do you know that?

Because if they had, Schroder would be gone. Stevens nay be a coward, but he isn't stupid.

Larry_Russell · Post #874 » by **Larry_Russell** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:16 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Horford, Bruno and 2 seconds to Brooklyn
for
Harris, Sharpe and Carter

Brooklyn upgrades Center position BIG TIME

Boston upgrades shooting BIGTIME

Smart/Pritch/Carter/Schroder
Harris/Richardson/Nesmith
Brown/Romeo/
Tatum/Grant/Juancho
Timelord/Kanter/Carter

Move Schroder for a wing upgrade off bench

I wondered about that - Brooklyn supposedly cooling on Harris, maybe being willing to take Al for a title run.. don't like putting Tatum back at the 4, but it helps us.

Tatum is better at the 4. And considerably better at it actually.

CelticFaninLBC · Post #875 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:55 pm

cl2117 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Collins doesn't seem like a good fit for Philly.

Wonder what else ATL needs besides Smart for Collins??
I can't imagine you get Collins for smart at all. I think you would probably need to add a pic and probably another player as well

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Think you roll in a trade for someone like Jerami Grant with the C's paying the price for him.

BOS: Collins
ATL: Grant, Smart, Grant Williams
DET: Gallinari, Nesmith, 1st from Boston

C's get their 3rd banana, ATL gets defense, Detroit cash in on Jerami.

Good trade for Atlanta and Boston. Can't see Detroit wanting Gallo, who is guaranteed $5m next year. Maybe something like...

BOS - Collins
ATL: Grant & Smart
DET: Jalen Johnson, Nesmith, BOS FRP, LouWill & Bruno

Andrew McCeltic · Post #876 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:56 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Beal is an unattainable white whale at this point. Why would he want to join the Boston sh*tshow? Don't give me the BS about how close he is with Tatum. Beal will go where he has a chance to win.

Yes, Brunson is up for a new deal and Porzingis is a gimpy overpaid unicorn. But Smart, Timelord and other assets for those two is the only realistic deal I can see involving Smart that brings back a legitimate point guard, and Stevens can try to sell the Zinger as a third star.

As for Schroder, nobody wants him. The Cavs never even called when Rubio got hurt.

How do you know that?

Because if they had, Schroder would be gone. Stevens nay be a coward, but he isn't stupid.

Haha, wtf are you talking about, he's a "coward"?

Andrew McCeltic · Post #877 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:57 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:I can't imagine you get Collins for smart at all. I think you would probably need to add a pic and probably another player as well

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Think you roll in a trade for someone like Jerami Grant with the C's paying the price for him.

BOS: Collins
ATL: Grant, Smart, Grant Williams
DET: Gallinari, Nesmith, 1st from Boston

C's get their 3rd banana, ATL gets defense, Detroit cash in on Jerami.

Good trade for Atlanta and Boston. Can't see Detroit wanting Gallo, who is guaranteed $5m next year. Maybe something like...

BOS - Collins
ATL: Grant & Smart
DET: Jalen Johnson, Nesmith, BOS FRP, LouWill & Bruno

Eh, maybe. Would need to fold in Juancho for Delon Wright.

Larry_Russell · Post #878 » by **Larry_Russell** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:59 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
cl2117 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:I can't imagine you get Collins for smart at all. I think you would probably need to add a pic and probably another player as well

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

Think you roll in a trade for someone like Jerami Grant with the C's paying the price for him.

BOS: Collins
ATL: Grant, Smart, Grant Williams
DET: Gallinari, Nesmith, 1st from Boston

C's get their 3rd banana, ATL gets defense, Detroit cash in on Jerami.

Good trade for Atlanta and Boston. Can't see Detroit wanting Gallo, who is guaranteed $5m next year. Maybe something like...

BOS - Collins
ATL: Grant & Smart
DET: Jalen Johnson, Nesmith, BOS FRP, LouWill & Bruno

Collins unhappy being second banana to tre think he is going to like being 3rd banana?

Also cannot expect schroder to be the starting pg with that lineup.

Bad trade that does not help the team

Post #879 » by **Darthlukey** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:59 pm

GotDaSauce wrote:
ddb wrote:
Half-Full wrote:
Yuck!

Zinger/Brunson for Smart/Timelord/Juancho? Call me crazy, but if I'm Boston I do that deal!

Brunson is great but I think he is up for a new deal after this year. Zinger is just alright for me but if its him or get Beal in the offseason then I say no thank you to Dallas!

Btw.... Beal has joined the vaccinated gang gang so all aboard the Beal hype train again!

Dallas would balk at that deal due to Brunson being included, I dont think they much care about Zinger but they really like Brunson apparently

CelticFaninLBC · Post #880 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:03 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
cl2117 wrote:Think you roll in a trade for someone like Jerami Grant with the C's paying the price for him.

BOS: Collins
ATL: Grant, Smart, Grant Williams
DET: Gallinari, Nesmith, 1st from Boston

C's get their 3rd banana, ATL gets defense, Detroit cash in on Jerami.

Good trade for Atlanta and Boston. Can't see Detroit wanting Gallo, who is guaranteed $5m next year. Maybe something like...

BOS - Collins
ATL: Grant & Smart
DET: Jalen Johnson, Nesmith, BOS FRP, LouWill & Bruno

Eh, maybe. Would need to fold in Juancho for Delon Wright.

Could do that.