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Time: 7:00pm
Place: Moda Center
TV: Root+
GLB of the game Brookes Nader
Moderators: Moonbeam, DeBlazerRiddem, The Sebastian Express
Devilzsidewalk wrote:DB is like the ultimate Wolves troll
DusterBuster wrote:Simons play is really making the interm-GM's job considerably more complicated. Simons is an RFA this summer if I'm not mistaken and he's in line to get PAID once the time comes. You can't afford to have 4 high-priced undersized guards... deals have to be made.
Can the Blazers dump CJ to pay Simons... will another team even offer an expiring for CJ knowing the Blazers predicament or will they make Portland pay a premium for salary dumps?
Do the Blazers just go to Dame and say it's time to split and hand the reigns off to Simons entirely?
Should they cash out on Simons while his value is sky-high to invest in the last few years of prime Dame?
Wizenheimer wrote:DusterBuster wrote:Simons play is really making the interm-GM's job considerably more complicated. Simons is an RFA this summer if I'm not mistaken and he's in line to get PAID once the time comes. You can't afford to have 4 high-priced undersized guards... deals have to be made.
Can the Blazers dump CJ to pay Simons... will another team even offer an expiring for CJ knowing the Blazers predicament or will they make Portland pay a premium for salary dumps?
Do the Blazers just go to Dame and say it's time to split and hand the reigns off to Simons entirely?
Should they cash out on Simons while his value is sky-high to invest in the last few years of prime Dame?
well, it would be so like Portland to make premature reactionary moves based upon 4-5 good games from Simons. He's been impressive but it's almost certain he's not quite as good as the recent hot-streak, anymore than CJ was as good as that 12 game streak at the beginning of last year; or Dame was as good ast that 10 game 40 & 10 streak about 18 months ago; or Nurkic was as good as his Nurkic-fever streak. If you look at the defensive guards Simons has faced over the last few games there was only one and that was Kyle Lowry. And Simons did almost nothing in that Miami game until after Lowry was ejected. He's going to get scouted and he won't be playing all games at the Moda where he's much better. The road lurks
really, nothing has changed except for maybe Simons looking at a higher salary on his offer-sheet next summer. The Blazers still have the same issue: way too much usage and salary invested in 6'3 & under guards who play crappy defense. That really doesn't change much even if Portland trades CJ for a front-court player. That would still leave Dame, Powell, and Ant as the guard rotation; that's too much ball-dominance and too little length and defense. Imbalance. It might be workable but it would always be awkward. And if Ant gets a salary similar to Powell, then Portland is paying 90M/ year for those three small guards. That will be around 75% of the salary cap and over 60% of the entire cap thru the apron. That would just perpetuate the olshey-era mismanagement
I don't think there is any finessing this. There are only 2 doors. One with Dame and one without Dame. If Portland keeps Dame and attempts an honest effort at building a contender around him, then at least 2 of CJ-Powell-Simons should be shopped hard. The 'undersized-ball-dominant-no-defense-backcourt' experiment has to end ASAP. Dame needs a back court partner who is at minimum as good as Wesley Matthews was at defense before his injury. And one at least as big as Matthews, if not bigger. That's not Powell and it's not Simons
behind the other door is blowing up the roster and a total rebuild. Trade Dame and every other player over 24. get as many future picks, young players, and expiring contracts as possible. Get bad and tank the season, and maybe the next one. Add high lottery picks to the collection of other picks and pray that somehow, someway, the team gets as lucky as they did when they drafted Lillard, and gets lucky twice.
but I'm anticipating the path Portland will take will be the worst one. Cronin is one of those corporate survivors. he knows how to keep his head down. I have no confidence he'll make necessary moves. So what I'm expecting is the Blazers will make a minor move or two before the deadline, make the play-in, lose their draft pick, then get curb-stomped in the 1st round. That the Blazers will continue to straddle every fence in sight
I hope I'm wrong and Cronin surprises me. I guess I'm jaded from a decade of olshey-speak-and-olshey-do
Devilzsidewalk wrote:DB is like the ultimate Wolves troll
DusterBuster wrote:
I don't necessarily disagree with anything said here, and I'm certainly not all rainbows and sunshine about the Blazers prospects at the moment, but I'm willing to give Cronin a chance. I think you're being unnecessarily pessimistic on him for no good reason and with no evidence other than to be negative for the sake of being negative. I don't know what to expect from the guy, so I'm willing to give him a shot and a clean slate in terms of my opinion on him.
DusterBuster wrote:It still really bums me out how the Blazers don't have full access to their FRP this season right now to make a deadline deal. Being able to package that pick as only lightly protected (or fully unprotected for the right player) along with CJ and/or Simons with some filler contract could bring back some really strong value at this years deadline. But tying up that pick with the Nance deal completely killed any chance of making a trade with this years FRP before the draft... such a bad trade.
Wizenheimer wrote:DusterBuster wrote:
I don't necessarily disagree with anything said here, and I'm certainly not all rainbows and sunshine about the Blazers prospects at the moment, but I'm willing to give Cronin a chance. I think you're being unnecessarily pessimistic on him for no good reason and with no evidence other than to be negative for the sake of being negative. I don't know what to expect from the guy, so I'm willing to give him a shot and a clean slate in terms of my opinion on him.
obviously I'll give him a chance. I'm just saying I'm pessimistic and it's not just because of the unknown Cronin, It's also because of the known Vulcan management. I'm pessimistic because I think there is little appetite is Seattle for Portland taking the necessary risks to be a contender. I'm not sure Portland contending even registers as a priority in the Vulcan flagshipDusterBuster wrote:It still really bums me out how the Blazers don't have full access to their FRP this season right now to make a deadline deal. Being able to package that pick as only lightly protected (or fully unprotected for the right player) along with CJ and/or Simons with some filler contract could bring back some really strong value at this years deadline. But tying up that pick with the Nance deal completely killed any chance of making a trade with this years FRP before the draft... such a bad trade.
there is one possibility: an early trade of RoCo to Chicago for their pick back, then adding that pick to a susequent trade. IIRC, the Bull have even been listed as a an interested party in RoCo. Trouble is there aren't any matchable contracts on the Bulls unless it's Derrick Jones and I'm not sure Portland can trade for him legally
Devilzsidewalk wrote:DB is like the ultimate Wolves troll
DusterBuster wrote:Wizenheimer wrote:DusterBuster wrote:
I don't necessarily disagree with anything said here, and I'm certainly not all rainbows and sunshine about the Blazers prospects at the moment, but I'm willing to give Cronin a chance. I think you're being unnecessarily pessimistic on him for no good reason and with no evidence other than to be negative for the sake of being negative. I don't know what to expect from the guy, so I'm willing to give him a shot and a clean slate in terms of my opinion on him.
obviously I'll give him a chance. I'm just saying I'm pessimistic and it's not just because of the unknown Cronin, It's also because of the known Vulcan management. I'm pessimistic because I think there is little appetite is Seattle for Portland taking the necessary risks to be a contender. I'm not sure Portland contending even registers as a priority in the Vulcan flagshipDusterBuster wrote:It still really bums me out how the Blazers don't have full access to their FRP this season right now to make a deadline deal. Being able to package that pick as only lightly protected (or fully unprotected for the right player) along with CJ and/or Simons with some filler contract could bring back some really strong value at this years deadline. But tying up that pick with the Nance deal completely killed any chance of making a trade with this years FRP before the draft... such a bad trade.
there is one possibility: an early trade of RoCo to Chicago for their pick back, then adding that pick to a susequent trade. IIRC, the Bull have even been listed as a an interested party in RoCo. Trouble is there aren't any matchable contracts on the Bulls unless it's Derrick Jones and I'm not sure Portland can trade for him legally
From the Vulcan perspective, sure. You’ll find no argument for me on that end. So far they’ve been willing to spend when asked, but hard to say where their heads are at with that… though I’ve got a good idea of where their heads are usually placed…
Yeah, I would love for Portland to get that pick back somehow so it can be used before the deadline, but just not sure that’s very likely.
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