When is Isaac Returning? Ruled out for the entire 2021-2022 season

[MAGICian619]

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

[PrimeThyme]

It’s just such a shame his career took the trajectory it did. Personally, I think Isaac realizes that his future as a right wing media personality is brighter than his future as a professional basketball player after the injuries he’s suffered.

I don’t want to overreact, but I’ve tried to stay patient and have kept my mouth shut over the last year. Now, it’s hard to look at the situation any other way.

As an African American NBA player who’s standing up for “free speech” and “freedom of choice” conservatives are naturally rallying around him and uplifting him as a pillar of their movement. He can fill a void in that space and will probably continue to gain support, acclaim, and popularity from doing so.

Just look at the support he’s getting on twitter and Instagram with this recent documentary announcement. This is all while having done relatively nothing during his basketball career and not having played in 18 months. People in that space don’t care about that reality though, so why should he?

Its safe to say that I’m extremely concerned about his future with this team, && equally concerned that we just extended the guys who gave him this contract.

[AaronB]

Uhmmmm ... Ben Shapiro has not worked for Fox for quite some time.

That is the Daily Wire if I read it correctly.

However, that he is doing anything other than getting his "core strength" back just shows that he is not a great teammate.

(Note: I try to not be negative toward the players as they are human and being human is a lifelong struggle)

I actually support many (not all) of his views, but what is absolutely clear is that there are maturity and professionalism issues.

If you want to know the mentality he needs to have, then read either of Tim Grover's books (relentless, winning)

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

[3ddman23]

Honest as much I like issac on the floor mental I'm checking out with him. Especially with the emergence with franz and this up coming draft potentially bringing another high end forward.

If the magic end up with Smith or banchero this next draft why not mive on from him. At this point is he really giving us much? Plus the Injury history. Idk I'm just over him already...

[swarlesbarkley]

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

JI may be "original" in that his views are different from a majority of NBA players but he is most definitely not original in comparison to alt-right conservative Americans which is why he's starting to pander to them for clothing/book/doc sales.

JI seems like a guy who is doing the minimum to act like he cares about the Orlando Magic and basketball in general but clearly has his mind set on something other than basketball in the short and long term.

Regardless of political affiliation, how many NBA players have used their rehab time to appear on non basketball related talk shows/interviews to promote sales of a non basketball related personal product?

[zaymon]

Honest as much I like issac on the floor mental I'm checking out with him. Especially with the emergence with franz and this up coming draft potentially bringing another high end forward.

If the magic end up with Smith or banchero this next draft why not mive on from him. At this point is he really giving us much? Plus the Injury history. Idk I'm just over him already...

I would like to do that aswell but if you think about defensive strategies he enables..... there are not 5 players in the nba right know who can do that. The latest addition to that player pool is Mobley and we can all see what he does to the defense, and Isaac was even better.
Holmgren is cool but he doesnt have Isaac foot speed on perimeter. Its impossible to replicate JI impact.
Suggs, Wagner, Isaac, Carter could be devastating defensive core but Isaac is sadly the key. Wagner is almost same height and he is not swallowing opponents like JI did.

[FFBlitzace]

You guys jump to too many conclusions. It's ridiculous to assume that he doesn't really care about basketball anymore and wants to be a right wing media personality once he inevitably retires any day now. And then it's ridiculous to then assume even more things about why he has the views he has and his motivations behind them.

He almost certainly has a daily workout/rehab schedule designed by the medical staff. After that, he can spend his time however he wants. Give it a rest with some of this nonsense.

[MAGICian619]

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

JI may be "original" in that his views are different from a majority of NBA players but he is most definitely not original in comparison to alt-right conservative Americans which is why he's starting to pander to them for clothing/book/doc sales.

JI seems like a guy who is doing the minimum to act like he cares about the Orlando Magic and basketball in general but clearly has his mind set on something other than basketball in the short and long term.

Regardless of political affiliation, how many NBA players have used their rehab time to appear on non basketball related talk shows/interviews to promote sales of a non basketball related personal product?

JI's views are conservative, not alt-right. For some reason, liberals like you think every conservative is alt-right. JI should be applauded for his views and thoughtful commentary, instead liberals would rather silence anything that doesn't 100% of the time agree with their POV. Sad.

[swarlesbarkley]

You guys jump to too many conclusions. It's ridiculous to assume that he doesn't really care about basketball anymore and wants to be a right wing media personality once he inevitably retires any day now. And then it's ridiculous to then assume even more things about why he has the views he has and his motivations behind them.

He almost certainly has a daily workout/rehab schedule designed by the medical staff. After that, he can spend his time however he wants. Give it a rest with some of this nonsense.

When there's no update from the org or from the player, we get to assume whatever we want - especially with the little information we're provided.

I look at Fultz in comparison to JI - Fultz has been doing basketball interviews and appearances during his rehab. Why has Fultz and not JI? Has WeHam told JI to not do any basketball related appearances? I'm guessing no. JI is choosing to do the minimum with the club while maximizing on the non-basketball things that gave him press. Smart move by him to set up his post-NBA career but fans of the Orlando Magic have the right to be frustrated by it - especially when he's the highest paid player on the team.

[pepe1991]

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

Tbh my political views by american standards would probably be closer to right wing... But that was not my point of picture. I find it funny that guy is doing everything but basketball related stuff in front of media.

[swarlesbarkley]

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

JI may be "original" in that his views are different from a majority of NBA players but he is most definitely not original in comparison to alt-right conservative Americans which is why he's starting to pander to them for clothing/book/doc sales.

JI seems like a guy who is doing the minimum to act like he cares about the Orlando Magic and basketball in general but clearly has his mind set on something other than basketball in the short and long term.

Regardless of political affiliation, how many NBA players have used their rehab time to appear on non basketball related talk shows/interviews to promote sales of a non basketball related personal product?

JI's views are conservative, not alt-right. For some reason, liberals like you think every conservative is alt-right. JI should be applauded for his views and thoughtful commentary, instead liberals would rather silence anything that doesn't 100% of the time agree with their POV. Sad.

I don't really care about his views. I don't agree with them and in some cases think they are more harmful than anything - but that's whatever to me. I definitely don't want to silence him.

I think going on The Blaze and meeting with Ben Shapiro is at the very least "radical conservative" and in a lot of cases "alt-right". But the designation doesn't really matter. He's pandering to a conservative America to sell his clothes/book/doc during his mysteriously extended rehab time and it just sits weird with me. I'd honestly feel the same way if he was promoting progressive left **** too while not talking basketball except only when he's forced to.

[swarlesbarkley]

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

Tbh my political views by american standards would probably be closer to right wing... But that was not my point of picture. I find it funny that guy is doing everything but basketball related stuff in front of media.

Yep. That's been my point too even though some people think I'm out to silence JI for being conservative.

[PrimeThyme]

You guys jump to too many conclusions. It's ridiculous to assume that he doesn't really care about basketball anymore and wants to be a right wing media personality once he inevitably retires any day now. And then it's ridiculous to then assume even more things about why he has the views he has and his motivations behind them.

Right, everyone should instead stick to the vast amount of information the front office has provided the fanbase and to the evidence from his social media that suggests the opposite.

Lambasting posters/fans for trying to make sense or conclude based on the information they've been given to work with is an interesting choice. Shame on them for suggesting potential motivations as he releases a book titled "Why I stand" and conducts an interview with Ben Shapiro on the Daily Wire following his publicized anti-vaccine stance and decision to stand during the National Anthem.

I'm not even interested in condemning his political views, but I mean seriously, do you expect nobody to raise questions or have problems as he does these highly publicized things during a somewhat unprecedented 18-month rehab that has no end in sight?

Also, not a single person has suggested sudden retirement. That's just a clear exaggeration.

[Skybox]

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

Tbh my political views by american standards would probably be closer to right wing... But that was not my point of picture. I find it funny that guy is doing everything but basketball related stuff in front of media.

I find it funny if JI thinks anybody will give a crap about his non-basketball views if he can't play bball anymore.

(Im not saying he believes that or that he isn't engaged in bball/rehab to play bball, but the narratives here are full of assumptions, so I added mine)

[Bensational]

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

JI may be "original" in that his views are different from a majority of NBA players but he is most definitely not original in comparison to alt-right conservative Americans which is why he's starting to pander to them for clothing/book/doc sales.

JI seems like a guy who is doing the minimum to act like he cares about the Orlando Magic and basketball in general but clearly has his mind set on something other than basketball in the short and long term.

Regardless of political affiliation, how many NBA players have used their rehab time to appear on non basketball related talk shows/interviews to promote sales of a non basketball related personal product?

JI's views are conservative, not alt-right. For some reason, liberals like you think every conservative is alt-right. JI should be applauded for his views and thoughtful commentary, instead liberals would rather silence anything that doesn't 100% of the time agree with their POV. Sad.

He will be applauded by those who support his views and criticised by those who don’t. If disagreement means silence then Isaac is trying to silence other voices simply by standing in opposition. If you recognise his actions as standing against something then recognise something is standing against his beliefs, too.

I’ve got no interest in his book beyond a curisoisty into how he handled the turn of events as a Christian man refusing to take a knee for another movement and then having his knee taken from him - arguably by god via his beliefs - and how he reconciled that. He seems to have taken it as a calling to continue further down that road instead of being humbled and focusing more on basketball.

[MagicHolland]

You guys jump to too many conclusions. It's ridiculous to assume that he doesn't really care about basketball anymore and wants to be a right wing media personality once he inevitably retires any day now. And then it's ridiculous to then assume even more things about why he has the views he has and his motivations behind them.

He almost certainly has a daily workout/rehab schedule designed by the medical staff. After that, he can spend his time however he wants. Give it a rest with some of this nonsense.

Thank you!

We live in a strange world where we judge people based on their social media accounts. The one thing I don’t get is why JI or especially the Magic don’t update the fans. Just protect your player for a bad rep.

We just don’t know if JI is up at 6 in the morning working on his body. We don’t know if management had told him not to rush anything because the season is a big loss already. We don’t know anything.

I’m going to assume management/trainers are doing everything to get JI ready or keep up his little trade value.

[MAGICian619]

JI may be "original" in that his views are different from a majority of NBA players but he is most definitely not original in comparison to alt-right conservative Americans which is why he's starting to pander to them for clothing/book/doc sales.

JI seems like a guy who is doing the minimum to act like he cares about the Orlando Magic and basketball in general but clearly has his mind set on something other than basketball in the short and long term.

Regardless of political affiliation, how many NBA players have used their rehab time to appear on non basketball related talk shows/interviews to promote sales of a non basketball related personal product?

JI's views are conservative, not alt-right. For some reason, liberals like you think every conservative is alt-right. JI should be applauded for his views and thoughtful commentary, instead liberals would rather silence anything that doesn't 100% of the time agree with their POV. Sad.

I don't really care about his views. I don't agree with them and in some cases think they are more harmful than anything - but that's whatever to me. I definitely don't want to silence him.

I think going on The Blaze and meeting with Ben Shapiro is at the very least "radical conservative"and in a lot of cases "alt-right". But the designation doesn't really matter. He's pandering to a conservative America to sell his clothes/book/doc during his mysteriously extended rehab time and it just sits weird with me. I'd honestly feel the same way if he was promoting progressive left **** too while not talking basketball except only when he's forced to.

More problems with your assumptions:

1) in some cases think (his views) are more harmful than anything

2) Ben Shapiro is at the very least "radical conservative" and in a lot of cases "alt-right"

Let's be real man. You are just someone who dislikes conservatives and loves spewing liberal talking points. Ben Shapiro is far from a radical conservative. Unfortunately for those on the left, he is a very bright guy who speaks well and constantly makes liberals look like fools which is why he has gotten that rep.

His views are not "more harmful than anything." Again, this is what people on the left think but all you need to do is open your eyes to what a Biden presidency had done to this country over the last year and realize that maybe its your views that are "more harmful that anything."

[swarlesbarkley]

JI's views are conservative, not alt-right. For some reason, liberals like you think every conservative is alt-right. JI should be applauded for his views and thoughtful commentary, instead liberals would rather silence anything that doesn't 100% of the time agree with their POV. Sad.

I don't really care about his views. I don't agree with them and in some cases think they are more harmful than anything - but that's whatever to me. I definitely don't want to silence him.

I think going on The Blaze and meeting with Ben Shapiro is at the very least "radical conservative"and in a lot of cases "alt-right". But the designation doesn't really matter. He's pandering to a conservative America to sell his clothes/book/doc during his mysteriously extended rehab time and it just sits weird with me. I'd honestly feel the same way if he was promoting progressive left **** too while not talking basketball except only when he's forced to.

More problems with your assumptions:

1) in some cases think (his views) are more harmful than anything

2) Ben Shapiro is at the very least "radical conservative" and in a lot of cases "alt-right"

Let's be real man. You are just someone who dislikes conservatives and loves spewing liberal talking points. Ben Shapiro is far from a radical conservative. Unfortunately for those on the left, he is a very bright guy who speaks well and constantly makes liberals look like fools which is why he has gotten that rep.

His views are not "more harmful than anything." Again, this is what people on the left think but all you need to do is open your eyes to what a Biden presidency had done to this country over the last year and realize that maybe its your views that are "more harmful that anything."

We really don't need to go down this road. I think it's interesting that I provided information and context without ever mentioning anything about you and/or your character while your reply was to come at me.

[MAGICian619]

I don't really care about his views. I don't agree with them and in some cases think they are more harmful than anything - but that's whatever to me. I definitely don't want to silence him.

I think going on The Blaze and meeting with Ben Shapiro is at the very least "radical conservative"and in a lot of cases "alt-right". But the designation doesn't really matter. He's pandering to a conservative America to sell his clothes/book/doc during his mysteriously extended rehab time and it just sits weird with me. I'd honestly feel the same way if he was promoting progressive left **** too while not talking basketball except only when he's forced to.

More problems with your assumptions:

1) in some cases think (his views) are more harmful than anything

2) Ben Shapiro is at the very least "radical conservative" and in a lot of cases "alt-right"

Let's be real man. You are just someone who dislikes conservatives and loves spewing liberal talking points. Ben Shapiro is far from a radical conservative. Unfortunately for those on the left, he is a very bright guy who speaks well and constantly makes liberals look like fools which is why he has gotten that rep.

His views are not "more harmful than anything." Again, this is what people on the left think but all you need to do is open your eyes to what a Biden presidency had done to this country over the last year and realize that maybe its your views that are "more harmful that anything."

We really don't need to go down this road. I think it's interesting that I provided information and context without ever mentioning anything about you and/or your character while your reply was to come at me.

You are right, we don't need to go down this road. But it is very lefty of you to throw shade against conservatives and then say its time to move on. Right on cue. My point was and still is your snobbish tone against conservatives is wrong and if you open your eyes in real life and you will realize that snobbish tone lacks real world awareness.

[basketballRob]

Bunch of time to prepare his body... to be host of fox news i guess

This must be very tough for some of you guys to see a pro athlete that doesn't just regurgitate what he is told to say and has the ability to create his own thoughts and opinions. Attacking him for that ability is pretty comical. You would think this last year of Biden would get some of you guys to realize you have no idea what you are talking about.

Tbh my political views by american standards would probably be closer to right wing... But that was not my point of picture. I find it funny that guy is doing everything but basketball related stuff in front of media.

Usually, the front office doesn't allow injured players to do basketball stuff in front of the media.

I'm on the opposite side of his political views but I admire how well-spoken he is.