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Re: [Woj] Teams have described Sixers asking price for Simmons' as growing... 

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Post#102 » by Hipster Doofus » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:34 am

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Re: [Woj] Teams have described Sixers asking price for Simmons' as growing... 

Post#103 » by Hipster Doofus » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:37 am

RoyceDa59 wrote:But which top 25 player from those teams will be available in trade for Ben? There’s definitely demand for Ben, there’s no demand at Moreys asking price.


If the Sixers are able to snatch one of: Jaylen Brown, Anthony Edwards, Bradley Beal, Brandon Ingram, Dame Lillard ... that's 6 players right there who I'd consider top 25.

All are on struggling teams out of the playoffs. All probably not very happy right now. Stranger things have happened in NBA trades, especially if someone sweetens the deal a little. All it takes is for one of those guys to say something or be discontent with their current team, and then who knows...
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Re: [Woj] Teams have described Sixers asking price for Simmons' as growing... 

Post#104 » by Balls Deep » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:39 am

Why don’t teams just let Simmons rot for the next few years and not help the Sixers? Why would anyone trade for him after what he’s done? I don’t get it.
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Post#105 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:41 am

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Lol, I love the “bookmark this for later” posters…. As though anyone gives a **** lmao.


Lol, OK, let's just all write all types of **** for the heck of it. No fact checking, no coming back to it, not re-assessing and re-examining. We can all say whatever the heck we want.

I'll go first. So I heard Chris Paul is a pretty good point guard, but I bet my house that Cole Anthony, starting point guard of the Orlando Magic, will have a better career and be a better player. Any bet takers? Bookmark it maybe? :D


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Post#106 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:42 am

Balls Deep wrote:Why don’t teams just let Simmons rot for the next few years and not help the Sixers? Why would anyone trade for him after what he’s done? I don’t get it.


That essentially seems to be what other teams are doing. They’re locking Morey out of getting the top 30 player he wants via a trade.

At this point, if that’s the return Morey wants, he’s gonna need to go about it a different way (get back picks and expiring contracts and sign the top 30 player via FA).
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Post#107 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:45 am

Canadian6ersFan wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:But which top 25 player from those teams will be available in trade for Ben? There’s definitely demand for Ben, there’s no demand at Moreys asking price.


If the Sixers are able to snatch one of: Jaylen Brown, Anthony Edwards, Bradley Beal, Brandon Ingram, Dame Lillard ... that's 6 players right there who I'd consider top 25.

All are on struggling teams out of the playoffs. All probably not very happy right now. Stranger things have happened in NBA trades, especially if someone sweetens the deal a little. All it takes is for one of those guys to say something or be discontent with their current team, and then who knows...


Pretty sure the Wolves are in the playoffs and Celtics are in the play-in.
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Re: [Woj] Teams have described Sixers asking price for Simmons' as growing... 

Post#108 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:49 am

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RoyceDa59 wrote:But which top 25 player from those teams will be available in trade for Ben? There’s definitely demand for Ben, there’s no demand at Moreys asking price.


If the Sixers are able to snatch one of: Jaylen Brown, Anthony Edwards, Bradley Beal, Brandon Ingram, Dame Lillard ... that's 6 players right there who I'd consider top 25.

All are on struggling teams out of the playoffs. All probably not very happy right now. Stranger things have happened in NBA trades, especially if someone sweetens the deal a little. All it takes is for one of those guys to say something or be discontent with their current team, and then who knows...


Pretty sure the Wolves are in the playoffs and Celtics are in the play-in.


Meanwhile, the Lillard and Beal have said nothing about wanting to leave and their respective teams have been completely steadfast in saying they have no intention of trading them and want to continue building around them. Keep hanging your hat on that dream there buddy...

You Sixer fans who are so stuck on the idea of getting Lillard, Tatum, Brown, or Beal in a direct Simmons deal are just cringe-worthy embarrassing. Think out of a box a little more. As I've been saying, if the Sixers really want a guy of that caliber, they're better off doing it by other means like FA vs trying to do it via trade because the teams you guys keep bringing up time and time and time again aren't interested in it.

Dump salary and then take a swing at James Harden this summer... that's a far more realistic way for Morey and you Sixer fans to get the quality of player you want than this trade pipedream you all are smoking.
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Post#109 » by falcolombardi » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:54 am

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RoyceDa59 wrote:But which top 25 player from those teams will be available in trade for Ben? There’s definitely demand for Ben, there’s no demand at Moreys asking price.


If the Sixers are able to snatch one of: Jaylen Brown, Anthony Edwards, Bradley Beal, Brandon Ingram, Dame Lillard ... that's 6 players right there who I'd consider top 25.

All are on struggling teams out of the playoffs. All probably not very happy right now. Stranger things have happened in NBA trades, especially if someone sweetens the deal a little. All it takes is for one of those guys to say something or be discontent with their current team, and then who knows...


the crux of the issue is that all those guys right now have higher value than simmons before even getting into the character issues of ben

if those guys wanted out it would be one thingh, but simmons is literally holding out

this is not like 2020 potential harden x simmons trade. back then harden was the more valuable player but he was asking out so simmons seemed a fair prize for him

now simmons is the one holding out, but morey wants to trade him for better players who are not asking out

normally when a player does what ben simmons is doing you are forced to trade him for 50 cents the dollar, morey wants to trade him for 1.50...
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Post#110 » by sacking123 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:55 am

Time for the NBA to step in. They simply can't afford to let both parties troll each other like this. Just trade the damn man. Morey is acting like a jilted lover at this point.
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Re: [Woj] Teams have described Sixers asking price for Simmons' as growing... 

Post#111 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:56 am

falcolombardi wrote:
Canadian6ersFan wrote:
RoyceDa59 wrote:But which top 25 player from those teams will be available in trade for Ben? There’s definitely demand for Ben, there’s no demand at Moreys asking price.


If the Sixers are able to snatch one of: Jaylen Brown, Anthony Edwards, Bradley Beal, Brandon Ingram, Dame Lillard ... that's 6 players right there who I'd consider top 25.

All are on struggling teams out of the playoffs. All probably not very happy right now. Stranger things have happened in NBA trades, especially if someone sweetens the deal a little. All it takes is for one of those guys to say something or be discontent with their current team, and then who knows...


the crux of the issue is that all those guys right now have higher value than simmons before even getting into the character issues of ben

if those guys wanted out it would be one thingh, but simmons is literally holding out

this is not like 2020 potential harden x simmons trade. back then harden was the more valuable player but he was asking out so simmons seemed a fair prize for him

now simmons is the one holding out, but morey wants to trade him for better players who are not asking out

normally when a player does what ben simmons is doing you are forced to trade him for 50 cents the dollar, morey wants to trade him for 1.50...


Dude, this is using wayyyyy too much logic, common sense, and reality. Nah... better to just wait for the sky to rain candy and sprinkles and money to grow from trees.
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Post#112 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:57 am

simonbampfield wrote:Time for the NBA to step in. They simply can't afford to let both parties troll each other like this. Just trade the damn man. Morey is acting like a jilted lover at this point.


I think the league will let it play out for the season and into the summer, but if this drags into August/Sept of next year... I'll be curious if the league doesn't try to force some sort of resolution. No way the league wants this to drag on into another season.
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Post#113 » by mattao313 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:01 am

Balls Deep wrote:Why don’t teams just let Simmons rot for the next few years and not help the Sixers? Why would anyone trade for him after what he’s done? I don’t get it.
Exactly how I feel, no GM is going to risk his job to deal with a headcase like Simmons. Simmons is a buy low type of guy.

Imo Simmons is close to a salary filler to maneuver a deal adding picks to him.


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Post#114 » by payton2kemp » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:02 am

Whose more valuable? Fred Van Vleet or Simmons? Looks like its FVV by a mile!

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Post#115 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:04 am

therealozzykhan wrote:Whose more valuable? Fred Van Vleet or Simmons? Looks like its FVV by a mile!

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2155908


To be fair, that's just the Raptor fans. Largest fan base by a mile on RGM and they always pad the votes in any poll regarding a Raptor player or the team as a whole. Not even worth a grain of salt.

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Post#116 » by Balls Deep » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:08 am

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Balls Deep wrote:Why don’t teams just let Simmons rot for the next few years and not help the Sixers? Why would anyone trade for him after what he’s done? I don’t get it.


That essentially seems to be what other teams are doing. They’re locking Morey out of getting the top 30 player he wants via a trade.

At this point, if that’s the return Morey wants, he’s gonna need to go about it a different way (get back picks and expiring contracts and sign the top 30 player via FA).


I mean don’t make any offers or try to trade for him ever. Let him rot for the duration of his contract then go to China or something.
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Post#117 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:11 am

Balls Deep wrote:
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Balls Deep wrote:Why don’t teams just let Simmons rot for the next few years and not help the Sixers? Why would anyone trade for him after what he’s done? I don’t get it.


That essentially seems to be what other teams are doing. They’re locking Morey out of getting the top 30 player he wants via a trade.

At this point, if that’s the return Morey wants, he’s gonna need to go about it a different way (get back picks and expiring contracts and sign the top 30 player via FA).


I mean don’t make any offers or try to trade for him ever. Let him rot for the duration of his contract then go to China or something.


Fun thought and all, but someone would trade something to get him. Sixers aren't directly getting the Top 30 player they want for him, but they could position it to happen indirectly by sending him and Harris out and getting largely expiring contracts back.
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Post#118 » by Pointgod » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:16 am

God damn Sixers fans are delusional. This Woj article is just repeating what anyone with common sense has been saying all along. Simmons’ value has only gotten worse since Morey decided to stubbornly play chicken instead of trading him when his value was highest.

I gotta get a laugh out of the posters here. Washington, Boston and the Hawks are underperforming so they’ll trade their best players for half a season of a guy who hasn’t played in months. :lol: :lol: This has to be the definition of delusional.

The problem with Simmons is that no one in their right mind is trading a 25 player for him and he’s of no value to a team that’s trying to tank. The fact that Morey just dragged this situation on even longer just meant that teams settled into their situation and there’s zero incentive to give into Morey’s insane trade demands.
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Post#119 » by Pointgod » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:17 am

Balls Deep wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Balls Deep wrote:Why don’t teams just let Simmons rot for the next few years and not help the Sixers? Why would anyone trade for him after what he’s done? I don’t get it.


That essentially seems to be what other teams are doing. They’re locking Morey out of getting the top 30 player he wants via a trade.

At this point, if that’s the return Morey wants, he’s gonna need to go about it a different way (get back picks and expiring contracts and sign the top 30 player via FA).


I mean don’t make any offers or try to trade for him ever. Let him rot for the duration of his contract then go to China or something.


You’re on drugs if you think Simmons isn’t getting close to a max contract once his contract expires.
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Post#120 » by Tottery » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:19 am

Not trying to **** post, but one thing I'm learning from this situation is that Morey and 76ers fans are delusional. Simmons aint coming back and teams are not going to give you the type of player you want for him. Legit wasting Embiid's precious years.

Someone talked about the Hawks and other teams being desperate because they're on the playoff cusp...what are you gonna get from those teams that makes you title favorites? Young and others aren't going anywhere.

This will end with a trade package of a bunch of mediocre players and picks for Simmons or him sitting out for seasons. Whole thing is goofy. They tried hard as hell to trade Simmons for Harden and that fell through. Most teams move players that are disgruntled, this is simply Morey trying to flex and force a move on Simmons that will not come. He will never play for the 76ers on home court again.

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