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Post#21 » by ejftw » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:13 am

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Consequence wrote:Not much out there, I’d say. Maybe try to get in on the trade Charlotte makes for a better starting C and get something for taking Plumlee?


Yeah, that was my initial aim too but looking for any other alternates. Like would Detroit want a redo on Kelly O? Boston not want year 2 of Richardson?

But Charlotte is still where I circle back too since they do have a need for a C


OKC for Favors?


Maybe I'm getting too greedy in hoping for a team that needs a C to try to extract a second, which I don't foresee OKC doing to swap the two, but wonder if they'd take Winslow with Ibaka for Favors. Clears a roster spot for the Clips and $4m-ish for next year
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Post#22 » by babyjax13 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:25 am

NYG wrote:The players below are the ones mentioned in this article: https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33034686/2022-nba-trade-deadline-watch-potential-deals-all-30-teams

Who are the top 5 players in order on this list besides Ben Simmons?

Danilo Gallinari
Cam Reddish
Bogdan Bogdanovic
De'Andre Hunter

Dennis Schroder
Josh Richardson
Marcus Smart

Mason Plumlee
James Bouknight
PJ Washington

Patrick Williams

Ricky Rubio
Collin Sexton
Cedi Osman
Dylan Windler

Jerami Grant

Kevin Porter Jr.
Christian Wood
Eric Gordon
John Wall
D.J. Augustin

Myles Turner
Caris LeVert

Serge Ibaka

Talen Horton-Tucker
Kendrick Nunn
DeAndre Jordan

Donte DiVincenzo

D'Angelo Russell
Malik Beasley
Jarred Vanderbilt
Jaden McDaniels

Tomas Satoransky

Kevin Knox
Mitchell Robinson

Terrance Ross

Ben Simmons

Dario Saric
Jalen Smith

Robert Covington
Jusuf Nurkic

Everyone on the Kings possibly?

Thaddeus Young

Goran Dragic
Chris Boucher

Bojan Bogdanovic
Joe Ingles



Rough list...

1. Haliburton
2. Turner
3. Fox
4. Bojan
5. Nurkic

Would probably be my order for 'most impactful/best players.' Hali and Turner would probably be the only guys where I'd be happy on value if I was Morey and got them back. He should have taken Brogdon and the first.
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Post#23 » by K_chile22 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:53 am

I'm starting to think it's actually becoming possible we see a Russ-wall swap, assuming Russ would be more open to a big buyout than wall
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Post#24 » by wolves_89 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:12 am

NYG wrote:The players below are the ones mentioned in this article: https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33034686/2022-nba-trade-deadline-watch-potential-deals-all-30-teams

Who are the top 5 players in order on this list besides Ben Simmons?


For value this season, here are the top and bottom guys in terms of EPM gives (players done for the year not included):

Players with positive EPM:
Vanderbilt 2.7
Russell 2.2
Turner 2.1
Smart 2.0
J. Smith 1.5
Washington 1.5
Bogdanovic (UTA) 1.2
M. Robinson 1.2
Levert 0.8
Haliburton 0.8
J. Grant 0.7
Boucher 0.4
Osman 0.2
Wood 0.2

Players with an EPM below -3.0 (not ordered):
Reddish
Hunter
Bouknight
Augustine
THT
DiVincenzo
Satoransky
Knox

Everyone else on the list has an EPM between 0.0 and -3.0.
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Post#25 » by DoItALL9 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:34 am

LAC could offer OKC another pick swap, 2027, to help them get under the tax this year.


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Post#26 » by Devilanche » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:13 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:LAC could offer OKC another pick swap, 2027, to help them get under the tax this year.


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LAC is quite far in the tax to get totally out of it , irrespective of the cost of doing so which should be substantial .
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Post#29 » by Karmaloop » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:21 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:LAC could offer OKC another pick swap, 2027, to help them get under the tax this year.


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They need to clear nearly $32M in salary without taking back any other salary just to dip under the luxury tax. Even if they managed to find a taker for Eric Bledsoe and Luke Kennard, they'd need to clear another ~$1M just to dip below the luxury tax. The only team with notable cap space is Oklahoma City, and they don't have enough to take on both.
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Post#30 » by oldncreaky » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:24 pm

ejftw wrote:What teams have a two year deal around 9.5-10M they'd deal for an expiring Ibaka? Or 14-15M for Ibaka and Winslow? Hopefully also willing to toss in a decent SRP or two.

Just looking for options to relay Ibaka's deal got a potential deal ballast during the summer



Dario Saric in Phoenix is $8.5M this year and $9.2M next. Out with a knee injury, but should be at least neutral value next year.
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Post#31 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:07 pm

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DoItALL9 wrote:LAC could offer OKC another pick swap, 2027, to help them get under the tax this year.


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They need to clear nearly $32M in salary without taking back any other salary just to dip under the luxury tax. Even if they managed to find a taker for Eric Bledsoe and Luke Kennard, they'd need to clear another ~$1M just to dip below the luxury tax. The only team with notable cap space is Oklahoma City, and they don't have enough to take on both.


I think OKC could get almost $34m under the cap by renouncing their TPE’s and cap holds. :dontknow:
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Post#32 » by cucad8 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:24 pm

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Local portland radio interviewed windhorst, he hints at Turner interest from portland.
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Post#33 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:44 pm

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Local portland radio interviewed windhorst, he hints at Turner interest from portland.


Yeah, I think I've seen several different major guys all hint the same.
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Post#34 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:01 pm

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DoItALL9 wrote:LAC could offer OKC another pick swap, 2027, to help them get under the tax this year.


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They need to clear nearly $32M in salary without taking back any other salary just to dip under the luxury tax. Even if they managed to find a taker for Eric Bledsoe and Luke Kennard, they'd need to clear another ~$1M just to dip below the luxury tax. The only team with notable cap space is Oklahoma City, and they don't have enough to take on both.



Shedding any even though not all, will result in a big savings though.
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Post#35 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:03 pm

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Local portland radio interviewed windhorst, he hints at Turner interest from portland.


Yeah, I think I've seen several different major guys all hint the same.


Who would Indy be interested in on Portland?

I think RoCo would be a nice PF fit for Sabonis. But I don't see the value gap getting closed to be worth Turner
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Post#36 » by HornetJail » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:09 pm

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the entire league wants Turner
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Post#37 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:49 pm

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Local portland radio interviewed windhorst, he hints at Turner interest from portland.


Yeah, I think I've seen several different major guys all hint the same.


Who would Indy be interested in on Portland?

I think RoCo would be a nice PF fit for Sabonis. But I don't see the value gap getting closed to be worth Turner



That’s the problem. RoCo is a fine filler contract. Simons is in his last year. Little is still hard to project. They owe a well protected first to Chicago so it may be awhile until someone else could get a first out of Portland. It’s tough.
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Post#38 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:10 am

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Yeah, I think I've seen several different major guys all hint the same.


Who would Indy be interested in on Portland?

I think RoCo would be a nice PF fit for Sabonis. But I don't see the value gap getting closed to be worth Turner



That’s the problem. RoCo is a fine filler contract. Simons is in his last year. Little is still hard to project. They owe a well protected first to Chicago so it may be awhile until someone else could get a first out of Portland. It’s tough.


Any way that CJ is considered? Is Indy still liking LeVert?
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Post#39 » by Soulyss » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:37 am

babyjax13 wrote:With Lillard out, I think Portland has several players Utah could use, especially Nance (but also Covington, Snell, and Little).


Nance is under a reasonable contract for next year, and I have my doubts that Portland would consider trading Little at this point.

Snell, Covington, and Nurk all likely to be elsewhere before the deadline... They will try to move CJ too.
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Post#40 » by Roy The Natural » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:41 am

zimpy27 wrote:
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cucad8 wrote:
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Local portland radio interviewed windhorst, he hints at Turner interest from portland.


Yeah, I think I've seen several different major guys all hint the same.


Who would Indy be interested in on Portland?

I think RoCo would be a nice PF fit for Sabonis. But I don't see the value gap getting closed to be worth Turner


Simons and RoCo? I'm thinking that Simons probably is getting traction as having really good value with his play in increased minutes and his upside.

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