Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[Larry_Russell]

Simmons/ Harris

for

Collins/ Gallinari/ Bogdanovic

Hawks add 1sts as necessary.

Atlanta has already let it be known that they have no interest in Harris

They also let it be known they wanted a lotto first for Reddish. Things change (and quickly in the NBA).

Could just re-route him to team X with aforementioned pick(s).

Issue is, who the heck wants Harris and that massive contract?

[GutUNC]

They are setting themselves up for a big trade.

Simmons/ Harris

for

Collins/ Gallinari/ Bogdanovic

Hawks add 1sts as necessary.

Atlanta has already let it be known that they have no interest in Harris

Hypothetically speaking, he is likely flipped to a 3rd team (Dallas? Sacramento?) for less onerous contracts on lesser on-court players. In other words, if they're both in the trade they likely aren't headed to the same place.

[Celts17Pride]

Simmons/ Harris

for

Collins/ Gallinari/ Bogdanovic

Hawks add 1sts as necessary.

Atlanta has already let it be known that they have no interest in Harris

Hypothetically speaking, he is likely flipped to a 3rd team (Dallas? Sacramento?) for less onerous contracts on lesser on-court players. In other words, if they're both in the trade they likely aren't headed to the same place.

Would be a huge win for Philly if that happens.

[CelticFaninLBC]

BOS gets Collins & Wright
ATL gets Jerami Grant & Smart
DET get Nesmith, PP, Bruno, Juancho, BOS FRP, CHA FRP

[tfribs45]

Atlanta has already let it be known that they have no interest in Harris

Hypothetically speaking, he is likely flipped to a 3rd team (Dallas? Sacramento?) for less onerous contracts on lesser on-court players. In other words, if they're both in the trade they likely aren't headed to the same place.

Would be a huge win for Philly if that happens.

no way Simmons brings in a haul like that........Morey and CO. are delusional if they think anyone will trade them for equal value, let alone get fleeced. lol Ben will need weeks to get into game shape etc...

[Jaqua92]

Hawks apparently open to trading anyone not named Trae/Capela.

Possible Simmons destination with Collins going the other way?

Could also eat Harris in the process and now have a pick to add instead of Reddish. Interesting.

I'd jump at adding Collins to the Jays if that was somehow in the realm of possibility.

Jesus Christ Brad. Get Collins here.

I'd love to build around Tatum and Collins. Find a pg after.

I wholeheartedly believe a lineup of

PG:?
SG: Brown
SF: Tatum
PF: Collins
C: Rob

Can legit be a contender.


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[Celts17Pride]

Hypothetically speaking, he is likely flipped to a 3rd team (Dallas? Sacramento?) for less onerous contracts on lesser on-court players. In other words, if they're both in the trade they likely aren't headed to the same place.

Would be a huge win for Philly if that happens.

no way Simmons brings in a haul like that........Morey and CO. are delusional if they think anyone will trade them for equal value, let alone get fleeced. lol Ben will need weeks to get into game shape etc...

I did say "if".

[keevsnick1]

Heard this one from @dangercart (Ryan Bernardoni) on a Celtics Podcast. How do people feel about:

Al Horford+ Dennis Schroder to Minnesota for Malik Beasley + Taurean prince.

At first it doesn't sound all that enticing, Prince is an expiring and Malik Beasley has one year (after this one) plus a plus a team option both at around 15 million. So the upside is you save a roughly 5.4 million dollar chunk of change, gets you at least close to out of the tax. Of course I don't really care about tax savings.

Beasley is having a down shooting year, at only 37.4% overall and 34.6% from three. Buuuut, he is for his career a 43.2/38% shooter so you're hoping there's a decent chance he bounces back, he was 40% and 42% from three the two years prior. And the team option is a nice thing to have as security. He's also only 25.

You also save 11 million dollars next year by downsizing from Al at 26 to Beasley. That could make it easier to use our 17.1 million TPE next summer.

Meanwhile the Timberwolves do it because Schroder/Horford gives them a talent upgrade in a playoff push this year.

[fallguy]

Heard this one from @dangercart (Ryan Bernardoni) on a Celtics Podcast. How do people feel about:

Al Horford+ Dennis Schroder to Minnesota for Malik Beasley + Taurean prince.

At first it doesn't sound all that enticing, Prince is an expiring and Malik Beasley has one year (after this one) plus a plus a team option both at around 15 million. So the upside is you save a roughly 5.4 million dollar chunk of change, gets you at least close to out of the tax. Of course I don't really care about tax savings.

Beasley is having a down shooting year, at only 37.4% overall and 34.6% from three. Buuuut, he is for his career a 43.2/38% shooter so you're hoping there's a decent chance he bounces back, he was 40% and 42% from three the two years prior. And the team option is a nice thing to have as security. He's also only 25.

You also save 11 million dollars next year by downsizing from Al at 26 to Beasley. That could make it easier to use our 17.1 million TPE next summer.

Meanwhile the Timberwolves do it because Schroder/Horford gives them a talent upgrade in a playoff push this year.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

[keevsnick1]

Heard this one from @dangercart (Ryan Bernardoni) on a Celtics Podcast. How do people feel about:

Al Horford+ Dennis Schroder to Minnesota for Malik Beasley + Taurean prince.

At first it doesn't sound all that enticing, Prince is an expiring and Malik Beasley has one year (after this one) plus a plus a team option both at around 15 million. So the upside is you save a roughly 5.4 million dollar chunk of change, gets you at least close to out of the tax. Of course I don't really care about tax savings.

Beasley is having a down shooting year, at only 37.4% overall and 34.6% from three. Buuuut, he is for his career a 43.2/38% shooter so you're hoping there's a decent chance he bounces back, he was 40% and 42% from three the two years prior. And the team option is a nice thing to have as security. He's also only 25.

You also save 11 million dollars next year by downsizing from Al at 26 to Beasley. That could make it easier to use our 17.1 million TPE next summer.

Meanwhile the Timberwolves do it because Schroder/Horford gives them a talent upgrade in a playoff push this year.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Its not exciting. But it gets you a potential shooter for next season while getting off Al's contract without giving up any picks. If you can then use the TPE+ a first round pick to bring in a 6'7+ wing shooter, and add a center via the MLE then you're onto something as a solid team.

[Curmudgeon]

Schroder, Juancho and Pritchard to Portland for Covington. The Blazers need help at the point, and get local hero Pritchard plus two expiring contracts. They probably weren't going to resign Covington anyway.

Or if Portland really wants to blow it up (they should): Horford, Schroder and Pritchard for McCollum. The question is whether the Celtics want to gamble on McCollum's health. He's had a partially collapsed lung and other issues, and he's expensive.

[keevsnick1]

Schroder, Juancho and Pritchard to Portland for Covington. The Blazers need help at the point, and get local hero Pritchard plus two expiring contracts. They probably weren't going to resign Covington anyway.

Or if Portland really wants to blow it up (they should): Horford, Schroder and Pritchard for McCollum. The question is whether the Celtics want to gamble on McCollum's health. He's had a partially collapsed lung and other issues, and he's expensive.

The Covington one is fine value wise, it just feels sort of weird to chase an exciting guy when we aren't doing much this year. Also I fear Covington may simply be in decline.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Heard this one from @dangercart (Ryan Bernardoni) on a Celtics Podcast. How do people feel about:

Al Horford+ Dennis Schroder to Minnesota for Malik Beasley + Taurean prince.

At first it doesn't sound all that enticing, Prince is an expiring and Malik Beasley has one year (after this one) plus a plus a team option both at around 15 million. So the upside is you save a roughly 5.4 million dollar chunk of change, gets you at least close to out of the tax. Of course I don't really care about tax savings.

Beasley is having a down shooting year, at only 37.4% overall and 34.6% from three. Buuuut, he is for his career a 43.2/38% shooter so you're hoping there's a decent chance he bounces back, he was 40% and 42% from three the two years prior. And the team option is a nice thing to have as security. He's also only 25.

You also save 11 million dollars next year by downsizing from Al at 26 to Beasley. That could make it easier to use our 17.1 million TPE next summer.

Meanwhile the Timberwolves do it because Schroder/Horford gives them a talent upgrade in a playoff push this year.

Great deal for ownership. When is the last time ownership paid the luxury tax? Seems like it was a while ago.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Schroder, Juancho and Pritchard to Portland for Covington. The Blazers need help at the point, and get local hero Pritchard plus two expiring contracts. They probably weren't going to resign Covington anyway.

Or if Portland really wants to blow it up (they should): Horford, Schroder and Pritchard for McCollum. The question is whether the Celtics want to gamble on McCollum's health. He's had a partially collapsed lung and other issues, and he's expensive.

Portland's a luxury tax team. Remove Schroder from the deal and they might take it. Can't imagine they want to pay luxury tax with Lillard out.

[Curmudgeon]

Schroder, Juancho and Pritchard to Portland for Covington. The Blazers need help at the point, and get local hero Pritchard plus two expiring contracts. They probably weren't going to resign Covington anyway.

Or if Portland really wants to blow it up (they should): Horford, Schroder and Pritchard for McCollum. The question is whether the Celtics want to gamble on McCollum's health. He's had a partially collapsed lung and other issues, and he's expensive.

Portland's a luxury tax team. Remove Schroder from the deal and they might take it. Can't imagine they want to pay luxury tax with Lillard out.

Yes, I suppose that's right. But would the Celtics be willing to pay multiple years of luxury tax for McCollum? Would Portland? You can't just look at this year.

[BK_2020]

Only a handful of teams pay the luxury tax in any given season.

[Andrew McCeltic]

BOS gets Collins & Wright
ATL gets Jerami Grant & Smart
DET get Nesmith, PP, Bruno, Juancho, BOS FRP, CHA FRP

Detroit is getting way too much

[Curmudgeon]

BOS gets Collins & Wright
ATL gets Jerami Grant & Smart
DET get Nesmith, PP, Bruno, Juancho, BOS FRP, CHA FRP

Detroit is getting way too much

So is Atlanta.

[bfchs123]

Heard this one from @dangercart (Ryan Bernardoni) on a Celtics Podcast. How do people feel about:

Al Horford+ Dennis Schroder to Minnesota for Malik Beasley + Taurean prince.

At first it doesn't sound all that enticing, Prince is an expiring and Malik Beasley has one year (after this one) plus a plus a team option both at around 15 million. So the upside is you save a roughly 5.4 million dollar chunk of change, gets you at least close to out of the tax. Of course I don't really care about tax savings.

Beasley is having a down shooting year, at only 37.4% overall and 34.6% from three. Buuuut, he is for his career a 43.2/38% shooter so you're hoping there's a decent chance he bounces back, he was 40% and 42% from three the two years prior. And the team option is a nice thing to have as security. He's also only 25.

You also save 11 million dollars next year by downsizing from Al at 26 to Beasley. That could make it easier to use our 17.1 million TPE next summer.

Meanwhile the Timberwolves do it because Schroder/Horford gives them a talent upgrade in a playoff push this year.

It seems fine but at the same time we may need Al as a large expiring this summer to match salaries for someone like Beal. If we're jeopardizing that (even if a 10% chance) than I'd say it's not worth it.

Need to break up Schroder/Smart though - Schroder seems like the more likely candidate so if we can construct something for Beasley that seems like a win

[Andrew McCeltic]

BOS gets Collins & Wright
ATL gets Jerami Grant & Smart
DET get Nesmith, PP, Bruno, Juancho, BOS FRP, CHA FRP

Detroit is getting way too much

So is Atlanta.

Well, it values Collins as the best player in the deal, or the most valuable (age, contract), which I agree with. But Detroit doesn’t want Smart.. I’d take out Pritchard or the 1st on our end.. Romeo an option, too.