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Post#501 » by BugginOut » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:50 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:we came a long way folks!!!
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That trade was so bad it scared Dolan from trading a pick for damn near a decade lol.

We could of had Lowry smh
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Post#502 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:51 pm

Thibs will never do it, but we legitimately have the personnel to finally play true small ball with heavy switching.

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Randle or Obi

Switch everything on the perimeter, like the Raptors or Warriors do, hide IQ on whoever is the stand in corner shooter.
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Post#503 » by Oscirus » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:51 pm

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As I said to MP, I don't think anyone is safe in the right deal. If Obi is out, we'll probably like the return.


I look at Leon’s first instincts when he arrived. He was gearing up to replace Julius (who was Pills’ signing). After how Julius has played in the playoffs and this regular season, coupled with the PR nightmare he’s been with the fans, I know Leon would move him if the opportunity presents itself. I don’t think Obi is someone they’re shopping, just as they aren’t looking to move Grimes. Teams may ask, but it’s not what we’re looking to do.


Either Julius or Obi gotta go because Thibs is never gonna play them together. Obi is the easier to move piece. Just seems inevitable. I dont see any plan for Obi here besides being Julius’ rest stop.

still need a backup pf and hes on a good contract at the mome. Wont have to be moved till year 4.
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Post#504 » by cgf » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:51 pm

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2010 wrote:Everyone loves Turner cuz that’s what the rumor has been. But if he comes here dudes will be complaining like schit about him.

He is mad inconsistent as a shooter so I ain’t even gonna call him a real stretch 5. He is not efficient scoring inside. Yes, he is a great shot blocker but defending in space is mixed bag.

Considering the cost, I’m good on Turner. He ain’t la schmooove.

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RJ put him in the blender, and we all know RJ can only score against scrubs, therefore Turner is a scrub.


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Post#505 » by DOT » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:52 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:He's put it together more than Knox though, I'd say.

And Knox is effectively expiring. So Knicks move Knox, plus an extra not that great 1st rounder, to keep another young player for 1.5 years.
Agree with your earlier points about Knicks needing to consolidate 4 mediocre guys into 2 good players, but this is good asset management that MIGHT turn out great, but is solid no matter what. Without taking into account how it buoys RJ over Randle.

At the very least, he's been shooting 3s at a 38% rate this year and he's a decent defender with the size and athleticism to handle bigger wings. So instead of RJ being the only decent wing defender, now we have 2. So long as his shot stays, he'll have a place in the league

I'd rather have him than Knox (especially considering the extra year), and while I don't love giving up 1sts, the protections on that one are pretty tough, so it's not the worst. Again, have to see what becomes of it, but I'd say it's about even odds we pick someone good with that pick as odds Reddish turns out good

It's a well-calculated risk imo. Still a risk, but a good risk, if you know what I mean

Also, not getting into the RJ vs Randle thing. It could go either way, it might be us prepping for Zion, it might just be us trying to convert a future asset into a current one.
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Post#506 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:52 pm

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2010 wrote:Everyone loves Turner cuz that’s what the rumor has been. But if he comes here dudes will be complaining like schit about him.

He is mad inconsistent as a shooter so I ain’t even gonna call him a real stretch 5. He is not efficient scoring inside. Yes, he is a great shot blocker but defending in space is mixed bag.

Considering the cost, I’m good on Turner. He ain’t la schmooove.


so you saying he dont have nothing to prove or nah? :lol:


He ain’t the move bruh. That nih got mad schit to prove. I think Turner overrated by our board.



I dont care for him much either. Its why I dont speak on trading for him. Unless the cost is mad low then fine, but he def not worth any serious investment.
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Post#507 » by Zenzibar » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:52 pm

Da_Mane_Man wrote:I'll tell you guys right now, Cam Reddish ain't good.



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Post#508 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:53 pm

Fournier and Burks to the moon. This is not about Grimes. We gave up a 1st. He’s either taking Obi minutes at the 4 or playing significant minutes at the back up 3. Thibs love defense.
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Post#510 » by robillionaire » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:54 pm

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That trade was so bad it scared Dolan from trading a pick for damn near a decade lol.

We could of had Lowry smh


I’m not even sure if this should count, it’s not our pick, it’s heavily protected, and there’s not even a guarantee it will convey to be a 1st round pick, it could still turn to seconds
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Post#511 » by TrueWarrior » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:54 pm

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I look at Leon’s first instincts when he arrived. He was gearing up to replace Julius (who was Pills’ signing). After how Julius has played in the playoffs and this regular season, coupled with the PR nightmare he’s been with the fans, I know Leon would move him if the opportunity presents itself. I don’t think Obi is someone they’re shopping, just as they aren’t looking to move Grimes. Teams may ask, but it’s not what we’re looking to do.


Either Julius or Obi gotta go because Thibs is never gonna play them together. Obi is the easier to move piece. Just seems inevitable. I dont see any plan for Obi here besides being Julius’ rest stop.

still need a backup pf and hes on a good contract at the mome. Wont have to be moved till year 4.


He’ll have less value then tho. We can get a lot of guys to backup Julius for 10 mpg to just stand in the corner. Bring up Luka Samanic for that even.
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Post#512 » by cgf » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:55 pm

Da_Mane_Man wrote:I'll tell you guys right now, Cam Reddish ain't good.


Not really expecting more than a bench guy with length who will hopefully continue to improve as a 3pt shooter, but playing with his college buddy RJ under a coach like Thibs might just be the environment he needs to tap into the potential he still has to become a very useful supporting piece. If they can get him to lock in, he could be a plus- defender, 3pt shooter, and secondary/tertiary ballhandler.

But even if they can't he can give the bench some length on the perimeter that has been lacking.
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Post#513 » by Oscirus » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:55 pm

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That trade was so bad it scared Dolan from trading a pick for damn near a decade lol.

We could of had Lowry smh


I’m not even sure if this should count, it’s not our pick, it’s heavily protected, and there’s not even a guarantee it will convey to be a 1st round pick, it could still turn to seconds

it was our pick though, we just technically put it in the bank
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Post#514 » by DOT » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:57 pm

Oscirus wrote:
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BugginOut wrote:That trade was so bad it scared Dolan from trading a pick for damn near a decade lol.

We could of had Lowry smh


I’m not even sure if this should count, it’s not our pick, it’s heavily protected, and there’s not even a guarantee it will convey to be a 1st round pick, it could still turn to seconds

it was our pick though, we just technically put it in the bank

We traded a pick, not our pick

We still haven't traded one of our own future 1sts in almost a decade, but now we've traded a future 1st.
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Post#515 » by RandlesCornrows » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:57 pm

Does Cam start? And does RJ go back to the two?
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Post#516 » by K_ick_God » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:57 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:Whose minutes are the Knicks unhappy with if this doesn't merely set the table for a Zion move?

If they want Cam to get minutes, somebody's gonna have to play less or get traded.

Maybe it's Obi. Maybe it's Grimes. Maybe it's Fournier. Maybe it's IQ. Someone's gonna lose.

The most far-fetched scenario is they're thinking of selling high on RJ, but that seems unlikely.


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Post#517 » by snadler » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:58 pm

So Hawks fans believe Knicks got the better player, think Knox could be useful with a pg, and think the pick will be used to get Simmons
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Post#518 » by 2010 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:58 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:
2010 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
As I said to MP, I don't think anyone is safe in the right deal. If Obi is out, we'll probably like the return.


I look at Leon’s first instincts when he arrived. He was gearing up to replace Julius (who was Pills’ signing). After how Julius has played in the playoffs and this regular season, coupled with the PR nightmare he’s been with the fans, I know Leon would move him if the opportunity presents itself. I don’t think Obi is someone they’re shopping, just as they aren’t looking to move Grimes. Teams may ask, but it’s not what we’re looking to do.


Either Julius or Obi gotta go because Thibs is never gonna play them together. Obi is the easier to move piece. Just seems inevitable. I dont see any plan for Obi here besides being Julius’ rest stop.


Obi has arguably more allies in the FO than Randle. He is younger, cheaper, easier to build around as his game isn’t as clunky a fit with other players as Randle. He has never rocked the boat or offended the fan base. In fact he is a clear fan fav. To boot, he isn’t viewed as a possible “mistake” by the guy running the show. I don’t think Obi is the goner that the narrative is running with today.

Julius is lately being patted on the ass for running around setting screens and moving the ball like a hustle PF, who can’t shoot but can facilitate. Only that’s not what he got paid for. His confidence is shot and it wavers on makes/misses. I’m pretty sure he has the yips and his mental makeup is not built for NYC. Leon knows this. He just has to find the right sucker. Jules is outta here. It’s a mere matter of time.

I’ve seen so many players not be able to perform in NY. You don’t just recover from that. Jules only time performing there was literally no one on the arenas.
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Post#519 » by K_ick_God » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:59 pm

RandlesCornrows wrote:Does Cam start? And does RJ go back to the two?


Nah I highly doubt he starts.
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Post#520 » by dukeknicksirish » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:59 pm

Hope Randle still has his realtors number in N.O. In his phone

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