Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

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[Chanel Bomber]

The Knicks might be setting the table for a Duke reunion.

Let's not forget Mills and Perry were seen having a meeting with Cam just days before the 2019 draft, even though it was clear they weren't gonna draft him at #3. Wouldn't be surprised if this were a Perry move.

RJ was the leader of the Duke team - maybe having a familiar face in the locker room will help Cam develop. But he's still very raw, and fits Scott Perry's template of inefficient players.

It's interesting they traded a first for him.

Not sure how I feel about this deal, but I can't help but feel this is not an isolated move.

Which first was this ultimately? The Mavs 2021, right? Where the Knicks traded it into the future for the heavily protected Charlotte pick, which probably wouldn't covey in 2022 but might have in 2023? Or even turned into a 2nd rounder.

Add another branch to the successful KP trade tree.

I think it was the Knicks pick. Dallas had a better record than us last year so I think theirs was #21, which was converted into #25 (Grimes).

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[Richard4444]

1) The Front Office is betting on the future. It's not a win-now move.

2) The fact he is the former teammate of RJ can be a sign RJ is near untouchable in the roster construction.

3) We have a logjam in the wings now (RJ, Evan, Burks, IQ, Grimes, and Cam) and no starting PG. We can wait for consolidation trades soon.

4) The plan is to keep being capped out. The expectation is that we will extend RJ and Cam using their bird rights for the 23/24 season. I think the Front Office is ok to open the wallet and pay luxury in the near future, unlike the Hawks that need to avoid the luxury threshold.

5) I would not be surprised if we try to lowball Cam and RJ next year, offering them something like 110/5 for RJ and 60/4 for Cam taking advantage of the RFA status (just like Ayton and Myles bridges). Almost anyone is saving cap space lately. It would be hard to get offer sheets. Especially if the Knicks make clear they will match any offer.

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Live look at Cam taking Fournier’s starting spot.

[thebuzzardman]

keep in mind with having so many young players, like Grimes, RJ, IQ, Obi, Reddick, the knicks don't even have much roster space for a late 1st round pick to begin with, hence why it was easy to trade a first.

Macri and Cohen talked about having to move a player (not sure if they talked about pick) considering the # of picks coming up and the fact the Knicks have the larger MLE next year, up to 10 million, which teams almost always use, due to the quality of player it generally fetches. Though in this case in effect they added more (better) Knox for another year.

I think they mentioned the glut in the context of two picks (1st rounder and 2nd) and using the MLE, while this pick was more likely to convey in 2023.

Anyway - agree with your statement. I had a point but not sure what it was.

[duetta]

Indiana is apparently asking for multiple #1 picks for Turner. Not sure if our available picks work for them, however.

[Buttah304]

The bigger picture here is that this is the first move the front office has made with RJ in mind. Reddish is 22, played on the same team as RJ in college and fits the bill of a modern day wingman that this roster construction sorely lacks.

After Randle's 2nd Team All NBA season, this front office convinced themselves that Julius struggled vs ATL because he didn't have enough offensive weapons. So what do we do? Bring back Burks-Rose-Noel (all vets) and their splash off-season was Fournier (29) and Kemba (32 in May).

By no means am I saying the changing of the guard is happening, because it's most likely not (yet). But RJ developing into the Knicks #1 option (not by league standards simply based on our roster/talent) is something our front office executives might be starting to realize.

[K_ick_God]

Neither he is in a position to bluff. Turning down U$200 million to bet on his health is an insane move.

The only bet he'd be making is whether or not someone will trade for him, which is a certainty.

He'll get paid either way.

I’m not sure if it’s a guarantee at this point. If he was on the Knicks and 370lbs and injured his entire rookie deal I imagine we’d be less than enthused about giving him 200M. But he’s not here we didn’t have to suffer so we can be more optimistic about it.

Yeah I don't know that it's a guarantee now. Maybe a big 1-year plus option type deal, which is our specialty. But a lot of time left.

[Im Coming Home]

Whats the chances Knicks start RJ/Cam next game at SG/SF and put Fournier on the bench?

[thebuzzardman]

Everyone loves Turner cuz that’s what the rumor has been. But if he comes here dudes will be complaining like schit about him.

He is mad inconsistent as a shooter so I ain’t even gonna call him a real stretch 5. He is not efficient scoring inside. Yes, he is a great shot blocker but defending in space is mixed bag.

Considering the cost, I’m good on Turner. He ain’t la schmooove.

so you saying he dont have nothing to prove or nah?

He ain’t the move bruh. That nih got mad schit to prove (to me). I think Turner overrated by our board.

I propose Turner trades often, but whenever I do, I always recall that for every time I've seen him kill the Knicks, the other half of the time he seems to almost shoot Indy out of the game.

That said, I'd be interested if it was Burks/Noel, though not the first I usually include as Knicks are down 1 now.
Even then, I'd still pause, because Turner is good, but not great, and he's going to get paid more in a year.

For the right price, I guess.

[Chanel Bomber]

Stretch 5 unlocks TF out of RJ. I love Mitch but the fit is not there long term.

RJ needs a roll man to run PNR with and attract the attention of the defense. And Mitch is elite around the rim.

Randle is the one who doesn't fit.

If the Knicks trade Mitch and keep Randle it's gonna summon the most evilist Chanel.

[F N 11]

Hawks trying to get in the trade market and get older.

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lol, take whatever you can and hang up even if its a call from Frank Rizzo

[E-Balla]

Got fleeced by Atlanta. Just gave up a first round pick for a guy who's been the worst rotation player on every team he's been on since he left highschool.

[F N 11]

Whats the chances Knicks start RJ/Cam next game at SG/SF and put Fournier on the bench?

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[thebuzzardman]

Everyone loves Turner cuz that’s what the rumor has been. But if he comes here dudes will be complaining like schit about him.

He is mad inconsistent as a shooter so I ain’t even gonna call him a real stretch 5. He is not efficient scoring inside. Yes, he is a great shot blocker but defending in space is mixed bag.

Considering the cost, I’m good on Turner. He ain’t la schmooove.

I'm good on Turner as well. Mitch is our guy, and he's starting to play really well. Forget Turner.

I'd also like to take this moment to give Grimes his flowers. I love this kid. Can't imagine he was actually a part of the Cam talks. No way. Grimes stays, and other guys have to go now to ensure he doesn't lose minutes to Cam.

For everyone dreaming up trades for Haliburton, and even Zion... I don't get it. How are we trading for either guy? I doubt Pelicans are entertaining offers right now, and I'm confused about the Haliburton rumors. They just drafted him. People think very highly of him. If he's actually available, what do the Knicks have to give up?

I'm expecting the Knicks to make at least one more move, but I think it won't be anything earth shattering. Just something to clear up some glut, address some of the issues we still have without giving up major pieces. Time will tell...

I'd like Turner without give up Mitch. Play them in a rotation.

Regarding Grimes, maybe thats the ask the Hawks put out as the home run ask, figuring the Knicks refuse, and they also kind of know then they can ask for the 1st rounder and Knicks feel good about not trading Grimes.

Feels more like it was part of a negotiation than anything.

[E-Balla]

The bigger picture here is that this is the first move the front office has made with RJ in mind. Reddish is 22, played on the same team as RJ in college and fits the bill of a modern day wingman that this roster construction sorely lacks.

After Randle's 2nd Team All NBA season, this front office convinced themselves that Julius struggled vs ATL because he didn't have enough offensive weapons. So what do we do? Bring back Burks-Rose-Noel (all vets) and their splash off-season was Fournier (29) and Kemba (32 in May).

By no means am I saying the changing of the guard is happening, because it's most likely not (yet). But RJ developing into the Knicks #1 option (not by league standards simply based on our roster/talent) is something our front office executives might be starting to realize.

Issue is it's a **** move with RJ in mind. Reddish played with RJ in college... But he played horribly with him. He played horribly in Atlanta too. He's actually just a horrible player. But there's nothing the Knicks love more than a player that struggles to shoot over 40% from the field and plays trash defense.

[HarthorneWingo]

Indiana is apparently asking for multiple #1 picks for Turner. Not sure if our available picks work for them, however.

After last night’s game from Mitch, I don’t know about trading him. He was a beast.

[E-Balla]

Y'all are thinking "damn that's cheap for Cam" but Atlanta's FO is like "they just gave us a first for the worst player on the roster."