Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[E-Balla]

They got our worst player at least too

They didn't give up a pick for him. Y'all know I hate Knox. We moved him for the only player I think is close to as bad as he is.

The pick is heavily protected. I dont think Cam is that bad either. He's nowhere near as bad as Knox. He still needs to put it together but has shown some signs. Worth the risk imo. Basically anyone you draft around 20 will be hit or miss too anyway.

You're only saying he's not as bad as Knox because you don't watch him as much as Knox. Y'all were telling me I was overreacting when I said Knox was terrible too though.

[TerrenceClarke]

Read on Twitter

just an excuse to post toronto mcgrady highlights, he was such a freak... i don't actually believe this lol

Prime Tmac is my favorite player of all time.. such a beautiful game he had.

Im of the opinion for years that Tmac is the most naturally gifted basketball player ever. He was that much of a beast, but was kinda lazy.

[E-Balla]

I decided to check some +/- stats to see if it would ease my anger... Shouldn't have done that. Just checked RAPM which is +/- but regularized to account for other players you play with and your opponents (that way bench guys won't be overrated, and starters won't be overrated - this is an overly simplified explanation). Cam Reddish is literally 581 out of 586. Terrence Ross is the only non rookie rated lower than him.

He's the classic has all the tools to be an excellent player but needs to work on consistency. For me he's one of those players that seems built to thrive in New York compared to Atlanta which always looks to be a ghost arena. I can talk myself into envisioning him being a dynamic piece off the bench running breaks with Rose, Obi and Grimes trailing for the three. Let RJ's work ethic rub off on him and he's the perfect project to gamble on.

If he gave a **** RJ and Zion would've rubbed off on him at Duke.

[DOT]

At the very least, he's been shooting 3s at a 38% rate this year and he's a decent defender with the size and athleticism to handle bigger wings. So instead of RJ being the only decent wing defender, now we have 2. So long as his shot stays, he'll have a place in the league

So I looked into this "improved shooting from three" quickly.
lReddish has played 34 games this season, and is absolutely shooting 37.9% from downtown. But last month he went crazy one week in two of those games (12/22 and 12/27) when he was 6-10 and 8-13 from deep.

In the other 32 games he is shooting just 33.8% (44-130). So while he still has the talent, I don't think that "38% from three this year" tells us what we want it to.

Fair

34% from 3 is acceptable, imo. Long as you're a decent defender, that's enough to get minutes.

[F N 11]

Whats the chances Knicks start RJ/Cam next game at SG/SF and put Fournier on the bench?

0

Idk, apparently part of the reason Reddish wanted out was due to lack of minutes/role with the Hawks, so if you think he's gonna be happy with the same problem here I really doubt it.

I know , the question was next game.

[F N 11]

I decided to check some +/- stats to see if it would ease my anger... Shouldn't have done that. Just checked RAPM which is +/- but regularized to account for other players you play with and your opponents (that way bench guys won't be overrated, and starters won't be overrated - this is an overly simplified explanation). Cam Reddish is literally 581 out of 586. Terrence Ross is the only non rookie rated lower than him.

Give the guy a chance here. He's only 22 and has flashed great potential.

The Knicks traded a net negative(Knox), and potentially the 20th pick(which is a huge unknown), while retaining their own, higher pick.

Let's at least be patient and see what he does for the rest of the year with the Knicks.

If you look at plus minus, RJ is one of the worst Knicks. I looked at plus minus to justify Obi starting over Randle and I was completely wrong.

[whocares1]

Everyone loves Turner cuz that’s what the rumor has been. But if he comes here dudes will be complaining like schit about him.

He is mad inconsistent as a shooter so I ain’t even gonna call him a real stretch 5. He is not efficient scoring inside. Yes, he is a great shot blocker but defending in space is a mixed bag.

Considering the cost, I’m good on Turner. He ain’t la schmooove.

Facts.

I don't trust bigs who average 7 rebounds a game. Gives me Bargnani flashbacks...

Um..Bargnani wasn’t even a 5. In his time he was a 4 because even tho he was tall, he played zero defense. Myles Turner has been the best shot blocker in the league for years now. He averages 7 rebounds because on possessions he is positioned at the three point line for spacing. Mitchell averages 8 rebounds and is always around the rim.

[RHODEY]

The bigger picture here is that this is the first move the front office has made with RJ in mind. Reddish is 22, played on the same team as RJ in college and fits the bill of a modern day wingman that this roster construction sorely lacks.

After Randle's 2nd Team All NBA season, this front office convinced themselves that Julius struggled vs ATL because he didn't have enough offensive weapons. So what do we do? Bring back Burks-Rose-Noel (all vets) and their splash off-season was Fournier (29) and Kemba (32 in May).

By no means am I saying the changing of the guard is happening, because it's most likely not (yet). But RJ developing into the Knicks #1 option (not by league standards simply based on our roster/talent) is something our front office executives might be starting to realize.

Issue is it's a **** move with RJ in mind. Reddish played with RJ in college... But he played horribly with him. He played horribly in Atlanta too. He's actually just a horrible player. But there's nothing the Knicks love more than a player that struggles to shoot over 40% from the field and plays trash defense.

Watch on YouTube

[Zenzibar]

Read on Twitter

You think Evan forgot and forgave?

[Deeeez Knicks]

They didn't give up a pick for him. Y'all know I hate Knox. We moved him for the only player I think is close to as bad as he is.

The pick is heavily protected. I dont think Cam is that bad either. He's nowhere near as bad as Knox. He still needs to put it together but has shown some signs. Worth the risk imo. Basically anyone you draft around 20 will be hit or miss too anyway.

You're only saying he's not as bad as Knox because you don't watch him as much as Knox. Y'all were telling me I was overreacting when I said Knox was terrible too though.

I never really liked Knox and was never crazy high on Cam.

But the big difference is Cam has some defensive potential compared to Knox. I think he could at least be a 3D guy. He is shooting 42% on catch and shoot 3s this year. Not saying he will be a star or anything but I think there's at least a path for him to be a solid rotation player. But yea, he still has to put it together and be consistent. You may be right and he may suck. Just wouldnt close the book on him yet.

[JBreezeNY]

I decided to check some +/- stats to see if it would ease my anger... Shouldn't have done that. Just checked RAPM which is +/- but regularized to account for other players you play with and your opponents (that way bench guys won't be overrated, and starters won't be overrated - this is an overly simplified explanation). Cam Reddish is literally 581 out of 586. Terrence Ross is the only non rookie rated lower than him.

Give the guy a chance here. He's only 22 and has flashed great potential.

The Knicks traded a net negative(Knox), and potentially the 20th pick(which is a huge unknown), while retaining their own, higher pick.

Let's at least be patient and see what he does for the rest of the year with the Knicks.

If you look at plus minus, RJ is one of the worst Knicks.

RJ is a interesting case himself. If he ever becomes the “franchise” player, we’re fu*ked.

[nyk2017]

This trade only makes sense if we trade 3-4 role players amongst Fournier, Kemba, Burks, Quickley and Grimes. My hunch is that a much bigger trade is coming.

[Manhattan Project]

If he gave a **** RJ and Zion would've rubbed off on him at Duke.

That's totally fair to question. Knick fans still dream of the day of trading for the high lottery pick and watching him flourish here like Camby. For the Charlotte pick and Reddish's potential, I don't mind it at all. Now it's just a matter of how Thibs is going create a rotation from this or if Rose tries to consolidate some of the roster.

[SelbyCobra]

I decided to check some +/- stats to see if it would ease my anger... Shouldn't have done that. Just checked RAPM which is +/- but regularized to account for other players you play with and your opponents (that way bench guys won't be overrated, and starters won't be overrated - this is an overly simplified explanation). Cam Reddish is literally 581 out of 586. Terrence Ross is the only non rookie rated lower than him.

The Scott Perry saga continues!

Read on Twitter

[F N 11]

Read on Twitter

You think Evan forgot and forgave?

Followed by the finesse on the dribbling lol. Dude is top 3 our team skill wise. Just has to put it together.

[JBreezeNY]

The bigger picture here is that this is the first move the front office has made with RJ in mind. Reddish is 22, played on the same team as RJ in college and fits the bill of a modern day wingman that this roster construction sorely lacks.

After Randle's 2nd Team All NBA season, this front office convinced themselves that Julius struggled vs ATL because he didn't have enough offensive weapons. So what do we do? Bring back Burks-Rose-Noel (all vets) and their splash off-season was Fournier (29) and Kemba (32 in May).

By no means am I saying the changing of the guard is happening, because it's most likely not (yet). But RJ developing into the Knicks #1 option (not by league standards simply based on our roster/talent) is something our front office executives might be starting to realize.

Issue is it's a **** move with RJ in mind. Reddish played with RJ in college... But he played horribly with him. He played horribly in Atlanta too. He's actually just a horrible player. But there's nothing the Knicks love more than a player that struggles to shoot over 40% from the field and plays trash defense.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Y’all need to be very careful with this “potential” sh*t.

[F N 11]

Cam Reddish is trash
RJ Barrett is trash

I have heard it all before. Cam won’t be put in a corner waiting for Trae to pass. His ISO scoring is welcomed on this team. Lately we have been putting the ball in our guards and wings hands.

Plus he’s 48% from corner 3, a Thibsdale staple.

[HarthorneWingo]

FWIW, they're not very happy over on the Hawks' board.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2156211

[F N 11]

FWIW, they're not very happy over on the Hawks' board.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2156211

Because he has real untapped potential. You can clearly see the skill.

[Zenzibar]

This trade only makes sense if we trade 3-4 role players amongst Fournier, Kemba, Burks, Quickley and Grimes. My hunch is that a much bigger trade is coming.

Don't be surprise that Leon doesn't include Cam in a trade instead of Grimes. But who knows.

Whose ceiling is higher, Grimes or Cam?