Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[Oscirus]

The Orlando Magic are shopping Mo Bamba. Talk about a stretch 5

Stretch as in his contract will be stretched in the near future?

[F N 11]

I wonder if we gave up on trading for Grant. We already got a bigger SF in Reddish. But Grant is way better player now than Cam.

We can be on the pursuit for Grant. We could still be willing to give Evan + Obi + pick to get Grant as well. I fear they demanding IQ in the deal.
PG (Burks for now)/Rose
RJ/IQ (Grimes)
Grant/Cam
Randle/Luka
Mitch/Noel

Only if Randle is going out

[Oscirus]

I wonder if we gave up on trading for Grant. We already got a bigger SF in Reddish. But Grant is way better player now than Cam.

We can be on the pursuit for Grant. We could still be willing to give Evan + Obi + pick to get Grant as well. I fear they demanding IQ in the deal.
PG (Burks for now)/Rose
RJ/IQ (Grimes)
Grant/Cam
Randle/Luka
Mitch/Noel

grant never made any sense to begin with

[The Lamma]

Just admit some of you guys don’t watch Hawks games. If you did you would see how much the Hawks are Trae Young centric. Basically his wings just stand in the corner and just watch Trae play PnR with Capela and John Collins. Everybody else gets the scraps. The games without Trae you saw Cam handle the ball ALOT more and play PnR with The bigs. That allowed him to play down hill and score inside. For posters to come here and say Cam sucks blah blah is kinda ridiculous. The kid hasn’t gotten a real opportunity to show his skill set out on the floor. As well as make mistakes and the coach allowing him to play.

On the Knicks who is the Trae Young equivalent ?


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It was going to be Jared Harper until it was determined his scalp wasn't enough like a Chia pet

(if you've ever had one, you know that sht doesn't grow uniformly like on the commercial)

[NoLayupRule]

im so thrilled with this trade

reuniting RJ and Cam together is killer too
instant chemistry

[HerSports85]

Right now no one mins will be effected if we go to a 10 man rotation

Burks / IQ
RJ / Grimes
Fournier / Cam
Randle / OBI
Mitch / Noel

[F N 11]

Interesting to see if Cam gets an increase role. Thats what he wanted. We gave up a first. Let this man rock.

[Chanel Bomber]

Cam is like if RJ, Frank and Knox had done the fusion dance.

Perhaps with just the merest hint of smoothness.

.384 FG%
.365 FG%
.402 FG%

Y'all trust Scott Perry if you want to.

Spoiler:

In all seriousness, let's hope Cam improves and shows more consistency the next 18 months. He has talent. But he has a long way to go. Let's just say I'm very skeptical.

[thebuzzardman]

Cam is statistically very bad, but Hawks fans seem to be mad about losing him. That’s what makes me optimistic, unless he’s like the hawk fan version of Frank or something

Camelkina it is

[Richard4444]

I wonder if we gave up on trading for Grant. We already got a bigger SF in Reddish. But Grant is way better player now than Cam.

We can be on the pursuit for Grant. We could still be willing to give Evan + Obi + pick to get Grant as well. I fear they demanding IQ in the deal.
PG (Burks for now)/Rose
RJ/IQ (Grimes)
Grant/Cam
Randle/Luka
Mitch/Noel

grant never made any sense to begin with

Grant used to play in Denver as SF (next to Milsap and Jokic).

Our FO and coaching staff like tall wings. Morris played as SF.

[Oscirus]

Right now no one mins will be effected if we go to a 10 man rotation

Burks / IQ
RJ / Grimes
Fournier / Cam
Randle / OBI
Mitch / Noel

You realize our head coach is thibs right?

[Kampuchea]

Just gotta hope that guy that made the article trashing RJ also hates this trade.

[Oscirus]

I wonder if we gave up on trading for Grant. We already got a bigger SF in Reddish. But Grant is way better player now than Cam.

We can be on the pursuit for Grant. We could still be willing to give Evan + Obi + pick to get Grant as well. I fear they demanding IQ in the deal.
PG (Burks for now)/Rose
RJ/IQ (Grimes)
Grant/Cam
Randle/Luka
Mitch/Noel

grant never made any sense to begin with

Grant used to play in Denver as SF (next to Milsap and Jokic).

Our FO and coaching staff like tall wings. Morris played as SF.

and that was dumb and it helped no one. Only good thing that came out of that experiment was quickley

[The Lamma]

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and we squeezed out a 2nd from them. The Brock Aller special.

Someday this will happen

"And with the 31st pick, the NY Knicks select ________." On the clock, the New York Knicks

"And with the 32nd pick, the NY Knicks select ________." On the clock, the New York Knicks

"And with the 33rd pick, the NY Knicks select ________." On the clock, the New York Knicks

(rinse/repeat)

The end goal is to own an entire 2nd round.

[Synciere]

Everyone loves Turner cuz that’s what the rumor has been. But if he comes here dudes will be complaining like schit about him.

He is mad inconsistent as a shooter so I ain’t even gonna call him a real stretch 5. He is not efficient scoring inside. Yes, he is a great shot blocker but defending in space is a mixed bag.

Considering the cost, I’m good on Turner. He ain’t la schmooove.

Initially I wrote centers but switched it to bigs for that reason. That said, plenty of power forwards average more than 7 boards a game, and Mitch has averaged more while primarily being a bench player. Bad example.

That said, other bigs averaging less doesn’t make me feel better about Turner.

Facts.

I don't trust bigs who average 7 rebounds a game. Gives me Bargnani flashbacks...

Um..Bargnani wasn’t even a 5. In his time he was a 4 because even tho he was tall, he played zero defense. Myles Turner has been the best shot blocker in the league for years now. He averages 7 rebounds because on possessions he is positioned at the three point line for spacing. Mitchell averages 8 rebounds and is always around the rim.

[CptCrunch]

Cam is polarizing to Hawks fans.

You either see him as a star or an unpolishable turd (with worst advanced stats on the team).

[god shammgod]

Cam is like if RJ, Frank and Knox had done the fusion dance.

Perhaps with just the merest hint of smoothness.

.384 FG%
.365 FG%
.402 FG%

Y'all trust Scott Perry if you want to.

Spoiler:

In all seriousness, let's hope Cam improves and shows more consistency the next 18 months. He has talent. But he has a long way to go.

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[poeman]

I'll tell you one thing about Cam that is missing on the Knicks...

Dude is ALPHA and isn't afraid of the big moment. He isn't going to be scared and seems like a kid that can take NY by the horns. Having RJ with him its gonna be very interesting

[E-Balla]

I decided to check some +/- stats to see if it would ease my anger... Shouldn't have done that. Just checked RAPM which is +/- but regularized to account for other players you play with and your opponents (that way bench guys won't be overrated, and starters won't be overrated - this is an overly simplified explanation). Cam Reddish is literally 581 out of 586. Terrence Ross is the only non rookie rated lower than him.

Give the guy a chance here. He's only 22 and has flashed great potential.

The Knicks traded a net negative(Knox), and potentially the 20th pick(which is a huge unknown), while retaining their own, higher pick.

Let's at least be patient and see what he does for the rest of the year with the Knicks.

If you look at plus minus, RJ is one of the worst Knicks. I looked at plus minus to justify Obi starting over Randle and I was completely wrong.

This year. Last year he was one of the best on the team. Overall he's not too bad. In the last 3 years conbined he's ranked 258th in ORAPM which isn't the best but is promising for a young player. Cam is ranked 728 on offense and 752 on defense. Out of 786 players. He's 781st overall. Nothing promising at all.

[Chanel Bomber]

Cam is like if RJ, Frank and Knox had done the fusion dance.

Perhaps with just the merest hint of smoothness.

.384 FG%
.365 FG%
.402 FG%

Y'all trust Scott Perry if you want to.

Spoiler:

In all seriousness, let's hope Cam improves and shows more consistency the next 18 months. He has talent. But he has a long way to go.

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There's obviously some noise in those numbers but this looks like the Knox effect.

You play a guy for his raw talent who gives you no end product. It not only hurts your efficiency as a team, but it could also have a deflating effect on teammates.

The knock on Cam at Duke was that he had a low motor, same as Knox. I don't think it's a coincidence.

The Hawks have been -14.3 points worse per 100 possessions with Reddish on the floor this season. Teammates can play a factor, but at the very least it shows a lack of impact.