VDT wrote:Pointgod wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:I think too many people in here are looking at this from a perspective of what they would do if they were a GM and not what some of the GMs with losing records right now might do. I don't think Simmons value is as low as some of you think, we're not even 5 yrs removed from Kawhi seemingly having a degenerative quad injury and refusing to return to the Spurs and that still got them an all-star and young player, obviously Simmons isn't Kawhi but he's still viewed as an impact player around the league and if he were as negative an asset as some of you think so many teams wouldn't be kicking the tires right now.
A month from now some of these GMs will be on the hot seat and all it takes is one of them to panic.
No what most people are looking at the situation as what it is, not what Morey and delusional Sixers fans want it to be. Think about it logically as you say, if I’m Boston, Hawks or Wizards and desperate, I’m not trading my best or second best player for someone who I’m going to get for half a season, I don’t know how he will fit into my system and could potentially make my situation worse because now you have to rely on Ben Simmons as your best player.
Now the Kings, Wolves, Trailblazers would be willing to trade Fox, Russell, Mcollum but apparently that’s an insulting offer that offends Morey’s delicate sensibilities.
It’s a different story if you trade for Ben during the offseason when you have the draft, free agency, training camp and preseason to shape your team and implement a system. Morey didn’t want to take the highest offer last offseason and I don’t think the offers get better this offseason.
Comparing this to the Kwahi situation would be like the Spurs expecting Lebron or Durant for injured and disgruntled Kawhi instead of a lesser player and draft assets. Completely illogical and just wishful thinking.
You are missing half of the point. Yes teams would ideally like to get Simmons for some random pieces and a protected pick. But the Sixers would also like to get an upgrade for Simmons. A trade requires two willing part. The Sixers will wait until they find a team that is forced to trade their star, or they might be forced themselve to trade Simmons for wahtever reason. They are not going to willingly take players like CJ, Russell etc unless they get enough picks to trade for a star shortly after.
Morey's plan might fail but i dont get why people here, non SIxers fans, are so fixated with Morey making (and losing) a trade now. Other teams have pressure and are not doing well too but people dont write post after post blaming their GM for not making a bad trade.
Sixers would be lucky to get equal pieces back in a return for Simmons, an upgrade over Simmons is simply out of the question.
While other teams like Atlanta or the Wolves may be under pressure to improve, they dont have a ticking injury time bomb in Embiid on their roster.
Sixers are 5th in the East and have basically the same record as the Cavs, Wizards, Raptors. If you told Sixers' fans or any NBA fan that the Sixers would drop from #1 to nearly the bottom of the conference they would have laughed at you.
Morey held out for too long, he insulted GMs for years with terrible offers, and now he is paying the price.
My fave is when people try to insinuate the the NBA benefits in any way shape or form from a young star player sitting out an entire season.
This whole saga is a huge blemish to the NBA and especially to Silver's record as commissioner and will have bad consequences for the owners in the next NBPA agreement