Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[3toheadmelo]

the knicks did give up a first round pick for him, so i expect him to be in the rotation instantly getting at least 20 minutes per game. you dont give up a first round pick for someone and give them the obi treatment

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Cam can’t play the 4. Though he’s 6’8 he can’t guard big PF because he isn’t that built. He also does not rebound well.

Maybe he can play if another team goes small, but he is mostly a 3 or a 2 like Fournier.

He's the same size as Obi, he's played 20% of his minutes at the 4 this year, and 40% his rookie year.

And got traded for a reason.

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Funny, considering you defend Randle all the time and both teams he played for dumped him for absolutely nothing.


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[WargamesX]

DRose was gotten for a disposable player and a 2nd early in the trade period, this deal includes a 1st and we know how valuable the perception of a 1st is regardless of valuable it really is once it's used and again this deal was done pretty early in the trade period.

So my only concern is the asset was burned before the deadline has come because who knows what may happen over the next month and who comes available since that one extra pick may hurt the chances for the Knicks to score a 'star' like player if something unpredictable happens.

Does Leon have his ear to the grapevine more than the rest of do including the media so has an insight that others don't or did he rush to the table before the market matured? Time will tell.

We have all our own picks that just based on our team history holds more value than a top 18 protected Hornets pick. That pick was made to be traded in something like this.

Or included in a package of picks for a star like player, there's no stamp on the bottom of the pick saying it's only to be used for a player another team has lost faith in and is getting rid of it while they still have some value.

It may be that there isn't a trade available that the loss of this pick hinders and maybe it does convey this summer in the 20s which the Knicks FO prefers not to use that soon.

This is all speculation we are doing and there's no guarantee things happen one way or another or assets need to be used one way or another.

We have all our own picks though and a team full of young guys. I don’t think they blink to add our own picks to get a star. I get you though and I am a big tank for youth guy. However, we have no control on that pick and it was always heavily protected. It was a good trade.

[god shammgod]

it's gonna be funny if his minutes kill the bench unit's production but thibs is forced to play him. this place will erupt into chaos.

[HarthorneWingo]

I think Burks is traded next with Kemba and DRose coming back soon. We’re not done yet.

[WargamesX]

Read on Twitter

Thibs wanted Cam so hopefully that means he’ll play off the bat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thibs is fickle as all heck. He wanted Obi too and was all smiles at the Kemba introduction presser.

I do think more moves are coming.

[dakomish23]

I get the hype going into college. Offensive potential popping off the screen

Watch on YouTube

[stuporman]

the knicks did give up a first round pick for him, so i expect him to be in the rotation instantly getting at least 20 minutes per game. you dont give up a first round pick for someone and give them the obi treatment

Do you use a lottery pick on Obi and give them the Obi treatment?

[TerrenceClarke]

it's gonna be funny if his minutes kill the bench unit's production but thibs is forced to play him. this place will erupt into chaos.

If he is being given mins it would mean that he is adding to that production, not taking away from it. If Reddish bumps someone out the odds are they are not better than him and deserved to be lessened because of him.

[SelbyCobra]

Where does it say that Thibs wanted him? All it says in that article is that Tom is generally a size queen, and that Cam is 6'8" with a 7'1" wingspan.

[F N 11]

RJ just started getting on ball now Cam want on ball. Fournier starting to handle, Burks and IQ ALWAYS handle. He should fit right in.

Let Cam get off with second unit. IQ not a point guard. He can be the RJ of the second unit lol.

[Capn'O]

the knicks did give up a first round pick for him, so i expect him to be in the rotation instantly getting at least 20 minutes per game. you dont give up a first round pick for someone and give them the obi treatment

You'd think but you also don't draft somebody in the top 10 and give them the Obi treatment.

[Knicks Byke]

RJ just started getting on ball now Cam want on ball. Fournier starting to handle, Burks and IQ ALWAYS handle. He should fit right in.

Let Cam get off with second unit. IQ not a point guard. He can be the RJ of the second unit lol.

He'll defer to RJ and Zion again.

lfg!

[stuporman]

We have all our own picks that just based on our team history holds more value than a top 18 protected Hornets pick. That pick was made to be traded in something like this.

Or included in a package of picks for a star like player, there's no stamp on the bottom of the pick saying it's only to be used for a player another team has lost faith in and is getting rid of it while they still have some value.

It may be that there isn't a trade available that the loss of this pick hinders and maybe it does convey this summer in the 20s which the Knicks FO prefers not to use that soon.

This is all speculation we are doing and there's no guarantee things happen one way or another or assets need to be used one way or another.

We have all our own picks though and a team full of young guys. I don’t think they blink to add our own picks to get a star. I get you though and I am a big tank for youth guy. However, we have no control on that pick and it was always heavily protected. It was a good trade.

Again perception is often more valuable than reality. Anyone trading for a star typically is giving up future picks that diminish in actual value because those teams usually get better with the addition of the star player. So when the headline splashes across the screen the number of picks in total is the thing that fans will see not what the actual number slots those picks eventually become.

I'm not saying it's a bad deal or a mistake, time will tell us that, I'm just noting it is a perceived valuable asset burned on a team that to be honest doesn't have one true star on the roster though some may argue they do. It was used on a hope and a prayer which may work out or not but it's an asset burned for that hope and prayer.

[evevale]

coming home to catchup on 30 pages of borderline hysteria is both a blessing and a curse but i expect to be greatly amused either way

[3toheadmelo]

the knicks did give up a first round pick for him, so i expect him to be in the rotation instantly getting at least 20 minutes per game. you dont give up a first round pick for someone and give them the obi treatment

You'd think but you also don't draft somebody in the top 10 and give them the Obi treatment.

that's because obi is mid
-ducks-

[DowNY]

We traded a first round draft pick - that potentially could've been included in a package deal for the star that you've been longing for - for a player whose career FG% is barely above Frank and Knox.

Your phlegm in this very moment is appalling

What’s funny is that half this board trashed that same 1st round pick when it was acquired a couple months ago. Lol
Now all of sudden, it’s so valuable to some. As if we still don’t have our pick, future picks - including the Mavs next year & a lot of 2nds (which that Hornets 1st can technically turn into in a few years if it doesn’t convey).

I think it was trashed because it went from a guaranteed first to a conditional first. But it's a first nonetheless.

We only have a finite number of firsts to trade. And trading that one means we're getting closer to trading our own if we reach the point where we need to trade a first, whether in a trade for a star or in a trade to clear capspace (eg a Fournier trade).

You can't treat a first round pick like it's nothing or trade it for a marginal player like Cam Reddish.

Imagine if (hypothetical scenario) James Harden wants to sign with the Knicks this offseason. We'd have one fewer first to trade to create capspace.

Imagine if Zion or Dame forces his way out of NO/Portland. That's an extra one of our own firsts we have to trade because the Charlotte pick is gone.

2nd rounders are mostly insignificant.

But hopefully Cam improves and plays well for the Knicks. I'm skeptical, but maybe a change of scenery is what he needed. My point was, we didn't trade nothing for him.

Nah, I feel you. But that’s the gamble you take. For that specific 1st, I’m not too stressed. Sure it’s a 1st in a vacuum but heavily protected & would never be a lottery pick. Hypothetically, that Hornets pick could convey this draft and be pick 19/20 or something. No lock with this draft that the value is that high or the player drafted is better than Cam. I think Cam Reddish goesin the lottery if he was in this upcoming “weak” draft. If he can prove to be more than decent, it’s a win and if we really have to trade for a star, he’s more valuable than that specific 1st. We keep ours.
This isn’t the Bargnani deal. This has substance imo & I’m not even a Cam advocate. I’m just willing to give it a chance.

[robillionaire]

the knicks did give up a first round pick for him, so i expect him to be in the rotation instantly getting at least 20 minutes per game. you dont give up a first round pick for someone and give them the obi treatment

You'd think but you also don't draft somebody in the top 10 and give them the Obi treatment.

Or the Frank treatment or the Knox treatment…

[Richard4444]

I think Burks is traded next with Kemba and DRose coming back soon. We’re not done yet.

[TerrenceClarke]

the knicks did give up a first round pick for him, so i expect him to be in the rotation instantly getting at least 20 minutes per game. you dont give up a first round pick for someone and give them the obi treatment

You'd think but you also don't draft somebody in the top 10 and give them the Obi treatment.

that's because obi is mid
-ducks-

We thought we was getting that supreme gas.... but instead we got? ....