How is Trae Young considered an All Star when they are 17-23?

schnakenpopanz · Post #1 » by **schnakenpopanz** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:34 am

I don't follow the hawks that much, but this is a huge disappointment after the ECF last year so far.

pr0wler · Post #2 » by **pr0wler** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:40 am

One player = an entire team of 15 players and coaching staff?

cl2117 · Post #3 » by **cl2117** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:16 am

4th in points per game on solid efficiency, 3rd in assists per game. Definitely an all-star.

Pachinko_ · Post #4 » by **Pachinko_** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:18 am

Because we are intelligent enough to separate player performance from team performance.

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #5 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:25 am

4th in PPG. 3rd in APG.

That's why.

kio80 · Post #6 » by **kio80** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:52 am

This is a huge disappointment of a thread

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dans1230 · Post #7 » by **dans1230** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:00 pm

schnakenpopanz wrote:I don't follow the hawks that much, but this is a huge disappointment after the ECF last year so far.

The teams play and record has been dissapointing, and i dont follow the Hawks closely but its pretty obvious that Trae Young is an all star level player.

elillo · Post #8 » by **elillo** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:25 pm

Because you don't need to play defense in the all-star game.

KembaWalker · Post #9 » by **KembaWalker** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:25 pm

Until the metrics that show that he basically gives back everything he gets and more become mainstream guys like that will keep making all star games. Which will never happen

PhilBlackson · Post #10 » by **PhilBlackson** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:37 pm

Post his individual stats instead of the team stats and you'll figure it out.

schnakenpopanz · Post #11 » by **schnakenpopanz** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:41 pm

So the logic is: 40 pts per game and 0-40 record guarantees you an all star birth?
I think it goes both ways.

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Oscirus · Post #12 » by **Oscirus** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:43 pm

One all star on a bad team is fine, now if they were getting multiple all star picks..

DroseReturnChi · Post #13 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:44 pm

trae young is still a star. stars do exist on horrible teams.

rate_ · Post #14 » by **rate_** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:53 pm

Here's the TOP 15 East teams currently in order and how many all stars they'll probably get:

Chicago - 2 (DeRozan, Lavine)
Miami - 1 (Jimmy)
Brooklyn - 2 (KD, Harden)
Milwaukee - 2 (Giannis, Middleton/Jrue)
Philadelphia - 1 (Embiid)
Cleveland - 1 (Garland/Jafro)
Charlotte - 1 (Lamelo)
Toronto - 0
Washington - 0
Boston - 1 (Tatum/Brown)
New York - 0
Atlanta - 1 (Trae)
Indiana - 0
Detroit - 0
Orlando - 0

shakes0 · Post #15 » by **shakes0** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:09 pm

Last season Boston had 2 all stars AND a losing record.

druggas · Post #16 » by **druggas** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:19 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:Because we are intelligent enough to separate player performance from team performance.

rate_ · Post #17 » by **rate_** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:22 pm

shakes0 wrote:Last season Boston had 2 all stars AND a losing record.

And Miami had 0 all stars and a winning record

Lockdown504090 · Post #18 » by **Lockdown504090** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:23 pm

rate_ wrote:Here's the TOP 15 East teams currently in order and how many all stars they'll probably get:

Chicago - 2 (DeRozan, Lavine)
Miami - 1 (Jimmy)
Brooklyn - 2 (KD, Harden)
Milwaukee - 2 (Giannis, Middleton/Jrue)
Philadelphia - 1 (Embiid)
Cleveland - 1 (Garland/Jafro)
Charlotte - 1 (Lamelo)
Toronto - 0
Washington - 0
Boston - 1 (Tatum/Brown)
New York - 0
Atlanta - 1 (Trae)
Indiana - 0
Detroit - 0
Orlando - 0

if trae young and tatum and garland makes it, why doesnt fvv make it over lamelo and garland tho? Hes closer in record to garland than trae, has better stats and defense than them? he will probably get in due to covid/injuries, but this is many ppls all star ballot and it just doesnt make sense to me.

pipfan · Post #19 » by **pipfan** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:27 pm

I am not a fan of Young at all, but he is clearly an All Star

rate_ · Post #20 » by **rate_** » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:29 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:
rate_ wrote:Here's the TOP 15 East teams currently in order and how many all stars they'll probably get:

Chicago - 2 (DeRozan, Lavine)
Miami - 1 (Jimmy)
Brooklyn - 2 (KD, Harden)
Milwaukee - 2 (Giannis, Middleton/Jrue)
Philadelphia - 1 (Embiid)
Cleveland - 1 (Garland/Jafro)
Charlotte - 1 (Lamelo)
Toronto - 0
Washington - 0
Boston - 1 (Tatum/Brown)
New York - 0
Atlanta - 1 (Trae)
Indiana - 0
Detroit - 0
Orlando - 0

if trae young and tatum and garland makes it, why doesnt fvv make it over lamelo and garland tho? Hes closer in record to garland than trae, has better stats and defense than them?

All star is more of a popularity contest. I think LaMelo makes it over FVV just off popularity. With Garland, it's a possibility that Jafro gets picked instead, but Cleveland deserves an all star nonetheless as they're 1st among the East in net rating with a better record than Toronto. The East in general is stacked with guards so FVV might be on the outside looking in. And as someone mentioned, Boston had 2 all stars with a losing record. One of Tatum/Brown is guaranteed to make it.