Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[dakomish23]

Let’s see if they actually run some plays for the kid. Some of his shot selection was typical off the dribble nonsense.

There are steps they can take to make this kid way more efficient.

[DaGawd]

Also, the Hawks are betting on addition by subtraction.

They think they can be better without Reddish's minutes. And they probably will be.

That's a red flag.

I'm pretty confident you are wrong on this, the hawks traded him because they weren't going to sign him long term..they also have higher priced vets making a lot of money that are getting playing time over him to begin with..nothing to do with red flags, but again, as I stated before, the knicks got him for free. if they traded Grimes for him, that would have been a different story

This is it. The Hawks backed themselves in to a corner with Cam with the extension given to Huerter and Collins and still have to decide on Hunter who they’ve made their choice on even tho he’s injury prone. I guess Hunter’s defensive versatility is what swayed them toward choosing him in the long run. There was just too many wings in ATL. Cam slipped thru the crack

[Oscirus]

The Charlotte pick could've been a throw-in that helps a trade for a young player who's actually good, like Haliburton.

Now, I don't know to what extent Haliburton's actually available, and maybe Cam will break his own pattern of efficiency and ball out with the Knicks.

But I'm not a fan of trading assets for mediocre players.

I'd rather have packaged the Charlotte pick, Obi plus the Dallas pick for Hali (not sure the Kings take it but it's just a general idea). Then you get a young player who actually helps your team and who can also be traded at a later stage for a star if need be.

I don't know.

first of all a heavily protected late 1st in a week draft while the knicks already loaded with young players would likely have to trade that pick at some point just for roster flexibility isn't really much of an asset

Do you consider Grimes and IQ to be assets?

Because that Charlotte pick is pretty much on par with them as an asset. IQ's value is probably a bit higher, but still.

Iqs a proven asset at this point, grimes not so much but the front office appreciates him which is why he wasnt thrown in. Lets be honest, that protected pick is more likely to be worse than cam and even as a throw into a major trade wouldnt really count as more than a throw in.

[TerrenceClarke]

Also, the Hawks are betting on addition by subtraction.

They think they can be better without Reddish's minutes. And they probably will be.

That's a red flag.

Imma send you a Gift Card for Saks or Bloomingdale's.

You need a shopping spree.

I'm against volume consumption actually, so I'm picky about what I buy

But I did buy some new clothes during the holidays, including some Knicks gear from Extra Butter

Yeah I was thinking about the Extra Butter Knicks Gear when it dropped. I went the Kith route instead, but I think there was a sweatshirt I liked from EB.

[Clyde_Style]

Bruh.....




Anyone crying about this bugging. There isn't a wing with the physical profile on the Knicks in the same tier as Cam. RJ will be in his ear about what Thibs expects. RJ is what will make this work as he will be Cams guide to Thibs and what he wants. Cam will listen to what RJ has to say.


Beast Mode....

To not acknowledge this is an RJ-Centric move is to ignore all of that, because there is no way they did this without picking RJ’s brain first. It is obvious RJ wants Cam here and the FO wants to support RJ. He will take Cam under his wing and smooth the onboarding process for him with Thibs

[Chanel Bomber]

first of all a heavily protected late 1st in a week draft while the knicks already loaded with young players would likely have to trade that pick at some point just for roster flexibility isn't really much of an asset

Do you consider Grimes and IQ to be assets?

Because that Charlotte pick is pretty much on par with them as an asset. IQ's value is probably a bit higher, but still.

Is this a joke? Grimes and IQ have shown they can be contributors in this league, they are much higher assets than a late 1st in a weak draft, Grimes in this years draft would probably be ten to 15 range, and IQ based on his play would be top 10

First of all, we don't know if the pick is going to convey this year.

Second, the pick could actually be higher than where IQ and Grimes were picked, which was the bottom of the first round.

Third, teams value draft picks because they have control over who they select.

The Hawks view the Charlotte pick as a way to either select their own Grimes or IQ, or to consolidate their assets to put together a package for a star. I think the Knicks would've been wise to have that same approach, instead of trading for an inefficient player who wants more touches and who has had motor issues.

We can agree to disagree. In the end, Cam's development (or lack thereof) will significantly impact how the trade is viewed a year or two from now.

[Deeeez Knicks]

It's really a minor move. If he doesnt work out its not a big deal. But we need something to talk about.

Yep, knicks gave up nothing in hopes what they get could turn into something, while what they gave up they already know is never going be anything

Yea, they desperatley needed another long wing. Maybe he helps, maybe he doesn't. At worst, its kinda the same odds as the pick. except a shorter clock but he also should be more ready.

[Chanel Bomber]

Imma send you a Gift Card for Saks or Bloomingdale's.

You need a shopping spree.

I'm against volume consumption actually, so I'm picky about what I buy

But I did buy some new clothes during the holidays, including some Knicks gear from Extra Butter

Yeah I was thinking about the Extra Butter Knicks Gear when it dropped. I went the Kith route instead, but I think there was a sweatshirt I liked from EB.

I copped the shorts and a hat. The shorts are really nice.

The Kith collection is pretty dope, especially the white jacket. That one is fuiyo.

[JXL]

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If you're a salary sheet geek, this means the Knicks got more than the Hawks.

[Clyde_Style]

Ok. F*ck it. Can't resist one last post.

RJ is a leader.
RJ may or may not have certain flaws that are unfixable.
But he's a leader. Sets an example.

Knicks are going to get Zion.
And while Zion and Cam are more talented than RJ, RJ will be the leader of the team.
And he will get Cam serious and focused
And he will get Zion serious about conditioning and eating right
And the Knicks will be good.

Buzztrodamus has spoken

Nailed it

RJ is the Captain now and the other two will take his guidance. He’s the only one of the three who has been an iron man and a starter and he has done it in NYC. He’s the quiet star of the three and the ballast that would keep the other two on an even keel. It would be good alchemy.

This is what this FO wanted to accomplish all along. It feels like this can happen because Zion has proven he is willing to chit all over Griffin and make him suffer.

[snadler]

Do you consider Grimes and IQ to be assets?

Because that Charlotte pick is pretty much on par with them as an asset. IQ's value is probably a bit higher, but still.

Is this a joke? Grimes and IQ have shown they can be contributors in this league, they are much higher assets than a late 1st in a weak draft, Grimes in this years draft would probably be ten to 15 range, and IQ based on his play would be top 10

First of all, we don't know if the pick is going to convey this year.

Second, the pick could actually be higher than where IQ and Grimes were picked, which was the bottom of the first round.

Third, teams value draft picks because they have control over who they select.

The Hawks view the Charlotte pick as a way to either select their own Grimes or IQ, or to consolidate their assets to put together a package for a star. I think the Knicks would've been wise to have that same approach, instead of trading for an inefficient player who wants more touches and who has had motor issues.

We can agree to disagree. In the end, Cam's development (or lack thereof) will significantly impact how the trade is viewed a year or two from now.

There is no significantly impact how the trade is viewed, it's a minor move that could turn out, if it doesn't it's not hurting the knicks in anyway..as I said beofre, the knicks even if kept the pick, would have to move it at some point due to a roster crunch and already having a plethora of young players..the likely outcome is Reddish goes eleswhere, knox is out of the league and where ever the pick winds up we won't even remember who it was from in the 1st place..

[snadler]

Also, the Hawks are betting on addition by subtraction.

They think they can be better without Reddish's minutes. And they probably will be.

That's a red flag.

I'm pretty confident you are wrong on this, the hawks traded him because they weren't going to sign him long term..they also have higher priced vets making a lot of money that are getting playing time over him to begin with..nothing to do with red flags, but again, as I stated before, the knicks got him for free. if they traded Grimes for him, that would have been a different story

A protected first round pick is not "for free".

Grimes was a late first round draft pick. You're trading away something that's the equivalent of Grimes for an inefficient young player who's soon going to be eligible for an extension, and who wants a bigger role. That's the formula.

If Reddish becomes a positive contributor within the next 18 months, that changes everything. I don't think there's any reason to be confident that he will, but you never know.

First, the knicks traded down for Grimes, second as i stated before the knicks were not keeping this pick anyway..there is no room, it's for free..

[thebuzzardman]

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If you're a salary sheet geek, this means the Knicks got more than the Hawks.

Doesn't change what anyone would think about the deal, but little stuff like this adds up. Brock Aller has been an asset.

He'd be a better asset working for someone better than Perry though.

[TrueWarrior]

Cam went into the Knicks board grinder as Paul George and came out as Qyntel Woods in less than a day. Hahahaaaaa.

We all know we can’t have nice things. Let’s just hope my man Chanel’s fair and balanced analysis leads to what’s happening with RJ now lol.

[Oscirus]

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If you're a salary sheet geek, this means the Knicks got more than the Hawks.

why even send over solomon? Its not as if he was needed to make salary work

[god shammgod]

whose to say another trade doesn't emerge before/on draft night and picks/young players don't go out making roster spots open ?

[thebuzzardman]

The Charlotte pick could've been a throw-in that helps a trade for a young player who's actually good, like Haliburton.

Now, I don't know to what extent Haliburton's actually available, and maybe Cam will break his own pattern of efficiency and ball out with the Knicks.

But I'm not a fan of trading assets for mediocre players.

I'd rather have packaged the Charlotte pick, Obi plus the Dallas pick for Hali (not sure the Kings take it but it's just a general idea). Then you get a young player who actually helps your team and who can also be traded at a later stage for a star if need be.

I don't know.

Haliburton isn't available. And I doubt a pick around 20 moved the needle to get him.

[ADeP7]

I don’t see how you don’t come out of this liking this deal.

Knox and hill were simple throw ins. This is in a sense. 1st round heavily protected pick for cam reddish with 1.5 years.
Gives a familiar face to rj. Adds a wing who albeit hasn’t been underwhelming but has the talent and tools to be a good to great player.
If that pick conveyed a big if. I’d bet a lot that it would be dealt in the off-season anyway.
But even if it isn’t it’s gambling that a pick around 20 will be more valuable than 1.5 years of reddish. Me personally as a Duke fan. Love the trade. Still think cam has a lot of upside to be tapped into and believe with rj and the coaches that they can get the best out of him.
If you are indifferent on the trade I get it. But flat out hating it is surprising

[god shammgod]

the pick is also top 18 protected for 2022. whose to say it even conveys this year ?

[Deeeez Knicks]

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If you're a salary sheet geek, this means the Knicks got more than the Hawks.

Doesn't change what anyone would think about the deal, but little stuff like this adds up. Brock Aller has been an asset.

He'd be a better asset working for someone better than Perry though.

Plus we got a future 2nd.