Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[Richard4444]

1) The Front Office is betting on the future. It's not a win-now move.

Um. No it's the exact opposite. If they traded a veteran for Reddish it would no be a win now move. The not win now would have been any of the following

* make the pick
* trade the pick forward near or on draft night to another team looking to move around and pick up additional picks
* package the pick with our pick and the Dallas pick to move up ourselves and get a player we've scouted and like

2) The fact he is the former teammate of RJ can be a sign RJ is near untouchable in the roster construction.

They spent 4 months together doing nothing spectacular 3 years ago. Trading for one of the worst shooting players from that draft who has largely been awful affecting the tradeable status of another player is a reach.

3) We have a logjam in the wings now (RJ, Evan, Burks, IQ, Grimes, and Cam) and no starting PG. We can wait for consolidation trades soon.

Nobody was offering anything near our offer (2 2nds from LA) so I doubt Reddish ends up in a consolidation trade.

The expectation is that we will extend Cam using their bird rights for the 23/24 season.
60/4 for Cam taking advantage of the RFA status

Are you literally a crazy person? This dude has been abyssmal. You are pre-offering him $40 million? What in the **** 9 hells are you talking about? Jesus christ, this is why Knick fans get a reputation for complete delusion about their new players. People cumming in their shorts over 1 legged Kemba was peak. Pre-paying a guy who shot significantly worse than Kevin Knox $40 million is over the cliff and into the river. Holy ****.

1) We won't win now with Cam. So it's not a win-now move. Cam is a 2-3 year win move. It's not a beyond 5 years move that you wanted.

We should not be expecting too much from the draft. The front office and coach staff do not want long-term projects. Besides, we already have a crowded roster with a lot of 23 years old and less.

2) Cam is a solid shooter this season - 38% from 3. He needs to be more consistent just like RJ. He has a great archetype of an NBA player. 6"7, agile, strong, good shooter.

3) The consolidation trade would evolve Evan, Burks, Obi, and Noel. Maybe Rose and I fear Mitch, IQ, Deuce, and Grimes are not safe. Cam will stay. I think he can not be traded this year due to the fact he was traded in a package with Hill.

4) The expectation is that he breaks out. If he reached some of his potentials by the end of the next season, he should value around 15M/y (OG, Barton, Malik, Bertans, Lauri, Derrick White range). If he fails, he will not be back.

[Knick4Real]

Gotta give a shout-out to Hawks Asst. GM Landry Fields for whatever role he may have played in making this trade happen.

Once a KNICK, Always a KNICK!

[TerrenceClarke]

Raw is saying he believes Scott Perry is the one who wanted to pull the trigger on Grimes lol. Get Perry up outta here.

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Tell Yung Chanel to get his mans and dem.....

[Chanel Bomber]

From Jake Fischer who called a lot of signings in the offseason, including Fournier.


Knicks interested in Turner, Levert and Schroder.

Myles Turner appears the likeliest Indiana player to be traded before the deadline, with a list of suitors that includes Dallas, Minnesota, New York, Sacramento, Charlotte and Portland. Toronto was also mentioned by several league personnel as a team to keep an eye on for Turner's services. The Pacers' asking price is said to include multiple first-round picks.

Caris LeVert has known suitors in Cleveland and New York, but so far Indiana has requested multiple first-round picks for the 27-year-old guard as well, sources said. The Pacers have also placed calls assessing the value of Justin Holiday, Jeremy Lamb and Torrey Craig.

There's a strong possibility Dennis Schroder is traded ahead of the deadline. Boston is expected to avoid the tax and therefore likely won't be able to afford the point guard this offseason, which was also why the Celtics moved Daniel Theis to the Bulls last season. New York, Cleveland and Dallas have been mentioned as potential destinations for Schroder.

Levert

The man is shooting 31.3% from 3.

[G_K_F]

From Jake Fischer who called a lot of signings in the offseason, including Fournier.


Knicks interested in Turner, Levert and Schroder.

Myles Turner appears the likeliest Indiana player to be traded before the deadline, with a list of suitors that includes Dallas, Minnesota, New York, Sacramento, Charlotte and Portland. Toronto was also mentioned by several league personnel as a team to keep an eye on for Turner's services. The Pacers' asking price is said to include multiple first-round picks.

Caris LeVert has known suitors in Cleveland and New York, but so far Indiana has requested multiple first-round picks for the 27-year-old guard as well, sources said. The Pacers have also placed calls assessing the value of Justin Holiday, Jeremy Lamb and Torrey Craig.

There's a strong possibility Dennis Schroder is traded ahead of the deadline. Boston is expected to avoid the tax and therefore likely won't be able to afford the point guard this offseason, which was also why the Celtics moved Daniel Theis to the Bulls last season. New York, Cleveland and Dallas have been mentioned as potential destinations for Schroder.

Levert

The man is shooting 31.3% from 3.

The Knicks love that treadmill.

They're still proceeding with building around Randle.

[F N 11]

Wah wah we got a 6’8 wing with a 7’1 wingspan who can do everything who was buried behind 8 other guys. Wahh wahhh

Stop crying hoes

[Gravy]

Raw is saying he believes Scott Perry is the one who wanted to pull the trigger on Grimes lol. Get Perry up outta here.

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He also said Frank will be the first Knick rookie contract extension in 25 years. Dude is consistently wrong.

[TerrenceClarke]

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[Oscirus]

I keep bringing this up with Mitch, if they don't have plans to sign him long term, they don't want to do what the hawks just did with Reddish and sell very low on him, his value has never been higher now that's healthy, I'd really like to see them trade Mitch for Brunson and get 30 games to see Brunson as a pg and see if they are willing to extend, while I beleive they already know they aren't keeping Mitch

Mitch is the only starting center we have, unless one thinks brunson is a starting level pg, that wouldnt be a particularly good trade

Again this trade wouldn't be for this year, if the plan isn't to sign mitch why let him leave for nothing, where as longer term the lack of pg is the glaring weakness, so might as well see if Brunson could be that option.

Thibs dont coach for the future, he coaches for the now, taking away his most effective defender to audition a pg wouldnt be conducive to a healthy enviroment here

[F N 11]

From Jake Fischer who called a lot of signings in the offseason, including Fournier.


Knicks interested in Turner, Levert and Schroder.

Myles Turner appears the likeliest Indiana player to be traded before the deadline, with a list of suitors that includes Dallas, Minnesota, New York, Sacramento, Charlotte and Portland. Toronto was also mentioned by several league personnel as a team to keep an eye on for Turner's services. The Pacers' asking price is said to include multiple first-round picks.

Caris LeVert has known suitors in Cleveland and New York, but so far Indiana has requested multiple first-round picks for the 27-year-old guard as well, sources said. The Pacers have also placed calls assessing the value of Justin Holiday, Jeremy Lamb and Torrey Craig.

There's a strong possibility Dennis Schroder is traded ahead of the deadline. Boston is expected to avoid the tax and therefore likely won't be able to afford the point guard this offseason, which was also why the Celtics moved Daniel Theis to the Bulls last season. New York, Cleveland and Dallas have been mentioned as potential destinations for Schroder.

Levert

The man is shooting 31.3% from 3.

Why are we trying to get the same type of players who need the ball? Please be fake news. If we want Turner that bad, I can see Mitch and Obi going out with Fournier.

[Monk1718]

The Hornets pick will convey into Michael Jordan

[TrueWarrior]

Wah wah we got a 6’8 wing with a 7’1 wingspan who can do everything who was buried behind 8 other guys. Wahh wahhh

Stop crying hoes

The guy complained about his minutes, yet he played twice as much as Obi gets. He’s not going to play any more here unless he starts and gets 30+, and even if that happened we got a lot of other guys who shoot and handle the ball unless we trade a bunch of em. How do you see this turning out dude?

Cam got the total package on the surface but when u look past the flash there’s little substance to his game. Sure he was prob worth a shot but ppl got rights to be skeptical.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Dream scenario is that he develops and we bump RJ down to the 2.

[prophet_of_rage]

Zion has shown nothing but being overweight and injury prone, hence he makes perfect sense for him to be the first superstar to actually wind up in NY, he won't play more than 20 games as a full maxed 350 pound PF...it's destined to happen

Lool. So true.

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[knickstape4ever]

that Hornets pick was not likely to yield a player w/ the upside Cam has. and it's also not likely to be the difference between trading for a star and not trading for one...which is why this is a good move

I'm someone who values draft picks very highly and thank Phil Jackson for starting the trend of not trading them away. but in cases like this, it makes sense b/c we're getting a young player w/ upside

my only concern is the rotation/allocation of minutes: we need to let RJ and Cam feast. don't put Cam in the same situation he had w/ the Hawks. he needs minutes and some freedom (not just spotting up in the corner)

right now, we just have too many wings on the roster that need minutes: RJ, Cam, Burks, Fournier, Grimes.

IMO they need to consolidate. if you can trade Fournier w/o having to attach assets, obviously that's the move. Burks is the easier player to trade tho, and we can probably recoup the 1st we just traded for Cam

I also think the Knicks should just hand the keys to RJ and get rid of Randle. we just got more athletic and w/ RJ and Cam we should transition two a faster-paced transition team. don't want Randle and his ball-hogging ways to detract from RJ and Cam....we've already seen that RJ thrives when the ball is in his hands; he and Julius don't co-exist well

[Polk377]

We get to see how he is

He's not a rookie. We have 3 years of how Reddish is. So far he's been utterly unplayable. We say all this **** about Knox and how useless he is, well they're the same age and Knox has shot better. We actually have more minutes from Reddish arguably playing with a real NBA point guard and he's just as terrible as Knox. I'd rather start with a fresh pick on year 0 of their rookie scale. Or again just use the pick to get further up in the draft by a few spots. Our only hope of getting a top 50 player is to draft one, or the fading hope that RJ or IQ become one.

While they have similar builds and playing styles the major difference that sets Reddish apart from Knox is his superior handle and ability to create for himself. Cam's FG% this season is also misleading. When it comes to shooting the 3 and finishing at the basket he is pretty efficient. It is the mid range from 10 feet to the 3 point line he has greatly struggled in. Take the mid range out of his game which consists of about 25% of his overall shots and he is shooting a respectable 7 percentage points higher at 47%. Match that with his 38% from 3 and 90% free throw shooting and you have a pretty good shooting split. If this was 15 years ago that would be a problem but the NBA is designed now to disregard the mid range in favor of the 3 or attacking the paint. Get it through to him to either pass out to the open man if the drive isn't there or go all the way to the basket hard and finish or draw contact to get to the line.

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[Gravy]

Zion has shown nothing but being overweight and injury prone, hence he makes perfect sense for him to be the first superstar to actually wind up in NY, he won't play more than 20 games as a full maxed 350 pound PF...it's destined to happen

Lool. So true.

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So far Randle > Zion.

Randle actually plays

[Richard4444]

Some takes:

1) It's a seller's market. Everyone wants good youngish players in nice contracts. And they are very rare. The price must be really high.

2) Cam has only 1 year and a half of contract. The buyer would have to pay him soon. The majority of the contenders are near the tax line and want to avoid it. Especially for a player who is not a sure thing. Rebuilding teams would rather invest in rookies and draft picks. We can face the risk and pay him.

3) I think it's a good period to have RFA players. Nobody has cap space to invest and offer sheets are rare.

4) We would have to make a decision about Turner and LeVert one year and a half from now. THey will be UFA in 2023, Both players are very inconsistent either. They play some great games and awful ones.

[Capn'O]

Dream scenario is that he develops and we bump RJ down to the 2.

Interchangeable wings imo.